YOUR CHILD'S FIRST LESSON IN SOCIALISM

BoortzNuze ^ | 2-5-04 | Neal Boortz

[netmilsmom]

WOW!
I'd pay for the extras if they would just educate my kids.
Now I pay property taxes and for the extras anyway. I would not trade it for the world though!

[netmilsmom]

Check Bill Bennet's K12 site.
Many states are included in the "Virtual Elementary" programs, which are free. My great nephew in OH is going through that. They will even send a teacher to the house if the kid is having problems. I would die to have my girls in it but for non-chartered states it's 1300.00 a year!

http://www.k12.com

[eyespysomething]

We too are in GA.

One doesn't have to wonder why we are at the bottom of the list when it comes to edumakation.

[longtermmemmory]

I agree with being upset with everything cited. What happens if one kid's lunch has a better desert than everone else. One child has a lunch box another a brown bag, will we rotate lunchboxes?

There is a reason teachers do not want students taught ecconomics or self reliance.

[eyespysomething]

They are spending 6700.00 per student and still whinning that they don't have enough money.

They are spending $11,000 per student here, and we are still last ** pulling hair **

Just give me my damn money back, I'll quit work and school my child. Its a shame when our son comes home and tells us they are teaching what he already knows. What is wrong with parents that they don't even give a flip.

[headsonpikes]

Apparently I'm not alone in my judgment on the relationship between public schools and American-style socialism.

[longtermmemmory]

the problem is that people become intelligent and productive DESPITE their public schooling not because of it.

They remember those few exceptional teachers who are there DESPITE the ridiculous administration and teacher unions that protect the mediocre.

Borrowing a .0001 cent paper is one thing. Mooching off of other parents is another.

Where does sharing end and communism begin?

[Jotmo]

The absolute, number one thing I loved about homeschooling, was watching them learn something for the first time.

So true. My lovely wife does nearly all the home schooling, but I get to do some of the science and math that she knows I'm good at. What a joy to watch when they "discover" something for the first time.

[Jotmo]

Please ping me also. I'd very much like to read it.

[Jason_b]

This is one of the most excellent threads I've ever seen.

[Mrs. Xtrmst]

Welcome to the wonderful world of homeschooling! It's not just an education, it's an adventure.

[Stopislamnow]

Here's a sort of homeschooling story someone sent me.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of
college. Like so many others her age she considered herself to be a very
liberal Democrat and was for distribution of all wealth. She felt deeply
ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican which she
expressed openly.

One day she was challenging her father on his
beliefs and his opposition to higher taxes on the rich & more welfare programs.
In the middle of her heart felt diatribe based upon the lectures she had
from her far left professors at her school, he stopped her and asked
her point blank, how she was doing in school.

She answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0
GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain. That she had to study
all the time, never had time to go out and party like other people she
knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend and didn't really have
many college friends because of spending all her time studying. That she
was taking a more difficult curriculum.

Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Mary." She replied, "Mary is barely getting
by", she continued, "all she has is barely a 2.0 GPA" adding, "and all
she takes are easy classes and she never studies." But to explain
further she continued emotionally, "But Mary is so very popular on campus,
college for her is a blast, she goes to all the parties all the time and
very often doesn't even show up for classes because she is too hung
over."

Her father then asked his daughter, "Why don't you
go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your 4.0 GPA
and give it to her friend who only had a 2.0." He continued, "That way
you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair equal
distribution of GPA."

The daughter visibly shocked by the fathers
suggestion angrily fired back, "That wouldn't be fair! I worked really hard
for mine, I did without and Mary has done little or nothing, she
played while I worked real hard!"

The father slowly smiled and said, "Welcome to the
Republican Party."

[FastCoyote]

"Complete BS. A vast majority of our citizens have public educations and we are the most productive and wealthy nation in history. Public education is not perfect but it is not as bad as the "Teacher Bashers" make it out to be. There is a very simple solution if you don't like public education. Send your children to a private school. Can't afford it? Whose fault is that? You made your choices. The people who bash education are people who complain about everything. It makes them feel better about themselves. They are usually very lonely people."

Are you nuts? Few males are allowed to teach anymore, the school system has been turned into a maternalistic/socialistic brain washing factory. It all fits with the old communist theories of taking over the pedagogy of the lumpen proletariat. While you don't hear those terms anymore that's what this is all about - and the smart ones in academia know exactly what they are doing. Go take the tests for seventh graders from the old school books and you will see how it has all been dumbed down. Lincoln was mostly self taught, I guess he was a lonely has-been.

[CDHart]

When our daughter was 10, we explained socialism as follows:

You work hard and take the test and get an "A." But the teacher says that's not fair to the other kids. So little Johnny who didn't study and got an "F" gets to take part of your grade, and you each end up with a "C." Her first reaction was "that's not fair."

We said, "Yes. But that's socialism. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Very effective teaching. She's 39 years old, and understands socialism still.

Carolyn

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

>>I have never seen a teacher demand that all school supplies become everyone's property.<<
What state are YOU in?

I've never seen it either. I'm from Massachusetts and have 2 kids that are in some fine public schools.

I am closely involved with my children's education in the schools in our town and I must say that this article and many other instances of what goes down in public schools across the country are BS to me. The weird stuff that I read about on FR doesn't go down here.

This is why I will, from time to time, take some Freepers to task for painting public schools with the same broad brush. Not all of them are government indoctrination centers. I wouldn't put up with that kind of BS in my town's schools and neither would any of the Conservative parents I know who also send their kids to the same schools here.

[netmilsmom]

But the problem is that so many people are like me. I am here and I am Conservative, but when my daughter was entering K, I had no clue. I sent the stuff and she lost it. The second year I learned it was not a fluke.

It's easy to say, don't paint with a broad brush but in the long run I think you will find more parents with my story than yours.

In MI the solution to bad schools was open districts. It was great for the parents in a bad district but people like me, who moved here because of the "Great Schools" had the classes dumbed down for those coming from other districts. We don't even have an option to move to a better district unless we move out of state.

It's wonderful that you have found a great district. Not all of us have. And some of us live in VERY union controlled states.

[netmilsmom]

And the best adventure I have ever started!

[tiamat]

My daughter goes to a school here in Michigan. I worked for nearly three years at the same school. I've never seen school supplies get confiscated and become community property like this article describes.

.As a matte of fact, gel-pens, glittery pencils and erasers in cute shapes sometimes get used as rewards for good work. And often, the teacher DOEs pay for them.

Tia

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

...in the long run I think you will find more parents with my story than yours.

Sadly, this is true and it breaks my heart.

We moved to this town before having kids over my objections. My wife grew up here and knew the school system. It was mainly for this reason that she was adamant.

We are Town Meeting members and make it a point to be involved with the schools and know the teachers. Still, in many towns across the nation even that isn't possible and sadly, is frowned upon by the administrative forces that run some school systems.

I'd love to get out of Massachusetts, but until the kids are out of school and in college...I'm stuck.

[Politicalmom]

Actually, besides that one upsetting fact, we are VERY fortunate. We moved here from CA several years ago, and we knew NOTHING about the area. We got a house a long distance from my husband's work, after we did a lot of research.

We live in an extremely safe area, with award winning schools. As a matter of fact, *shameless bragging follows* both of my children just tested a two grade level jump in their latest test scores.

But I have seen the worst of public schools as well, coming from CA.