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Suspension for 'anti-gay' opinion upheld
WorldNetDaily ^ | February 5, 2004

Posted on 02/05/2004 8:20:26 PM PST by scripter

A teacher suspended because he wrote published letters critical of homosexual behavior was properly punished with a one-month suspension, the British Columbia Supreme Court ruled.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Chris Kempling

of Quesnel, British Columbia, was found guilty of unbecoming conduct by the B.C. College of Teachers. The panel asserted his letters to the editor, a research paper and other correspondence contained "discriminatory and derogatory statements against homosexuals."


Teacher Chris Kempling (Vancouver Sun)

Though none of the statements in question were made in class, the panel said the writings indicated the veteran teacher's attitude could poison the class environment.

One Kempling letter cited by the panel said: "Gay people are seriously at risk, not because of heterosexual attitudes but because of their sexual behaviour, and I challenge the gay community to show some real evidence that they are trying to protect their own community members by making attempts to promote monogamous, long-lasting relationships to combat sexual addictions."

Justice Ronald Holmes of the B.C. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday Kempling's comments were discriminatory and could reasonably cause disruption to the school system.

In a letter to supporters yesterday, Kempling said, "It is a black day for religious freedom in Canada."

According to Kempling, Holmes implied homosexual students would be unwilling to speak to him in his role as a school counselor, asserting the published comments reduced his credibility as a teacher in the eyes of students and the public.

"There was no evidence presented that this was true," Kempling said. "No evidence of a disrupted school environment was found. There were no complaints from students, parents or my supervisors."

He noted all of his former administrators wrote letters stating his public comments had no discernible impact on the operation of the school.

According to its rules, the teacher's panel does not need to find direct evidence of a poisoned school environment to determine that a member is guilty of conduct unbecoming. The panel said, "It is sufficient that an inference can be drawn as to the reasonable and probable consequences of the discriminatory comments of a teacher."

The teachers said they were disturbed by Kempling's statements that homosexual relationships are unstable, 'gay' sex poses health risks and many religions consider homosexuality immoral.

In his letter yesterday, Kempling pointed out three former students interviewed by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation at the University of British Columbia said they were not even aware that there was a controversy at that time.

He insists Justice Holmes ignored evidence that homosexual students received impartial service from him.

"In fact, a prominent homosexual interviewed by college investigators offered no opinion that what I had written publicly was upsetting to homosexual people," Kempling said.

He argued that the fact he was appointed to be chair of the Community Health Council by the Minister of Health during this period showed his credibility as a teacher and community leader were not impaired.

The post is the highest non-elected appointment in his city, with responsibility for over 500 employees and a $22 million budget.

Kempling said the ruling "means that teachers who happen to be Christians or who belong to other religions proscribing homosexuality may not comment publicly on this issue."

"It means that disciplinary bodies do not need to provide any evidence of impairment or harm at a professional's workplace if they exercise their right to free speech in their off-the-job capacity," he said. "Inference of harm is sufficient to remove a teacher from his job. It is a serious blow to freedom of speech and freedom of religion."

Kempling said he will appeal the decision to the B.C. Court of Appeal, although the four-year battle has been tough on him and his family.

"But I am determined to see this through," he said. "I am a Christian first and a teacher second, and I will not compromise my faith or keep silent about what I believe."

Kempling appealed to the B.C. Supreme Court on the grounds that the decision violates Canadian Charter of Rights protections of freedom of expression and religion.

He argued no professional regulatory body had ever punished members for off-site conduct that had no demonstrable impact on their work.

Kempling insists a one-month suspension was particularly harsh since teachers convicted of threats, assault, theft and flashing have received only letters of reprimand.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gayintoleristas; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; homosexualvice; intimidation; intoleristas; prisoners; romans1; spiritualbattle
Update to April, 2003 article.
1 posted on 02/05/2004 8:20:30 PM PST by scripter
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To: little jeremiah
Ping.
2 posted on 02/05/2004 8:20:53 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
The west is dying slowly. Farewell freedom.
3 posted on 02/05/2004 8:22:52 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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To: scripter
The teachers said they were disturbed by Kempling's statements that homosexual relationships are unstable, 'gay' sex poses health risks and many religions consider homosexuality immoral.

Each point is true. I guess that's what disturbed the teachers. They can't handle the truth!

4 posted on 02/05/2004 8:24:41 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I'm having an apotheosis of freaking desuetude)
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To: scripter
One Kempling letter cited by the panel said: "Gay people are seriously at risk, not because of heterosexual attitudes but because of their sexual behaviour, and I challenge the gay community to show some real evidence that they are trying to protect their own community members by making attempts to promote monogamous, long-lasting relationships to combat sexual addictions."

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Make the man chief of the board of education.

5 posted on 02/05/2004 8:27:34 PM PST by RLK
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To: scripter
Sheer madness...

Is Canada the canary in the coal mine for America circa 2010?

6 posted on 02/05/2004 8:28:33 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: ClearCase_guy
Exactly. Before we lose the ability to tell the truth in this country I better get this out quick:

In regards to homosexuality and genetics, the work of homosexual activist Dr. Simon Levay has often been used to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic, and his work is still quoted to this day. But what did Levay really find? Here is what Levay said of his own work:

"It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain."

In 1973 the APA (American Psychiatric Association) declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. According to Levay, it wasn't science that propelled the APAs change, he said "Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality."

7 posted on 02/05/2004 8:30:25 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
How many of us have changed our mind on a controversial subject? To believe one thing, and then completely change your beliefs on an issue?

Dr. Robert L. Spitzer played a pivotal role in the above 1973 decision made by the APA. Spitzer used to believe homosexuals couldn't change but after studying the results of therapy he now believes homosexuals can change:

"I thought that homosexual behavior could be resisted--but that no one could really change their sexual orientation. I now believe that's untrue--some people can and do change."

Spitzer concluded with:

"the mental health professionals should stop moving in the direction of banning therapy that has, as a goal, a change in sexual orientation. Many patients, provided with informed consent about the possibility that they will be disappointed if the therapy does not succeed, can make a rational choice to work toward developing their heterosexual potential and minimizing their unwanted homosexual attractions."

8 posted on 02/05/2004 8:34:41 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Free speech is obviously dead in Canada, rather ill here in the US. Wahtever happened to "I despise what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it!"
9 posted on 02/05/2004 8:34:49 PM PST by expatpat
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To: scripter
HOW dare you hold an opinion!!

To the GULAG with yaz!

10 posted on 02/05/2004 8:35:56 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: scripter
When I was living in Vancouver, BC, about 1998....I was listening to someone on the radio tell a story of a teacher in BC somewhere.....who explained "fudge line" to his students....and when they expressed disgust, said "how do you know until you've tried it" or something similar....and, if I'm not mistaken, the teacher WAS NOT PENALIZED in any way.

Be careful talking to anyone from Canada (even by phone)....they take their PC VERY seriously - because I even had a Canadian Airline employee suggest I was "harassing" her, when I got angry because she was doing a lousy job with my air reservation. (I'm a girl, btw.)


11 posted on 02/05/2004 8:37:41 PM PST by goodnesswins (If you're Voting Dem/Constitution Party/Libertarian/Not - I guess it's easier than using your brain.)
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To: GeronL
So sorry, but I promise to do it again. ;-)
12 posted on 02/05/2004 8:38:42 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
What if we spell it "Geigh"? Can we talk about the risks of "Geigh" sex?
13 posted on 02/05/2004 8:39:54 PM PST by AlbertWang
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To: scripter
This just proves to me that the homosexual community and their supporters are terrified of the truth and will do anything to shut up those who speak it.

I truly believe this hyper-sensitivity comes from the fact that deep down inside, they know there is something very wrong with homosexuality and worse yet sense the dead end future it promises for them.

These people are scared to death of what they fear is really the truth after all..that homosexuality is a sin and God condemns it.

Otherwise the community that demands tolerance, wouldn't be so intolerant of anybody who expresses this belief. They are pathetic.

14 posted on 02/05/2004 8:40:45 PM PST by Jorge
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To: expatpat
In the U.S., the pro-homosexual crowd only believes free speech applies to them, or so it appears.
15 posted on 02/05/2004 8:41:17 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: AlbertWang
There ya go. I like it.
16 posted on 02/05/2004 8:42:43 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Jorge
You very well may be on to something.
17 posted on 02/05/2004 8:48:48 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Judicial denial of freedom of speech and religion is likely to be found here as well, although hopefully our tradition of stronger free speech protections here will keep most judges from this type of tyranny. This guy is appealing, so hopefully it will be reveresed.
18 posted on 02/05/2004 8:58:55 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: scripter
Kempling appealed to the B.C. Supreme Court on the grounds that the decision
violates Canadian Charter of Rights protections of freedom of expression and religion.


well, here's what happens when your rights are granted by the state/Crown...
not by a true higher power.
19 posted on 02/05/2004 9:00:24 PM PST by VOA
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping Alert.

If anyone thinks this is not coming to a theater near you, you are living in a fantasy world.

If anyone wants on or off this ping list, pingify me.

Thanks, scripter ;-)
20 posted on 02/05/2004 9:05:07 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: goodnesswins
It is a very small world indeed that was me on the radio in Vancouver, I read the article in a local newspaper and passed it on to the listeners on the radio, very disgusting indeed, we are in a lot of trouble in Canada.... How does one get a green card?????
21 posted on 02/05/2004 9:08:30 PM PST by snowballinhell (Me thinks something is afoot)
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To: scripter
Why don't they just yell "Achtung!" and load this teacher into a boxcar?
22 posted on 02/05/2004 9:12:10 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: F16Fighter

Is Canada the canary in the coal mine for America circa 2010?

Vancouver, BC is Amsterdam West, the marijuana, drug and prostitution capital of North America. They grow so much dope indoors you can smell it walking down the street.

23 posted on 02/05/2004 9:12:54 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: snowballinhell
OMG...how funny......YOU can come if you promise to vote CONSERVATIVE....we have good friends who were born in Canada, but have lived here all their adult life (after their two boys were born in Canada)who are flaming liberals.......esp. their boys! Can you do lawns? LOL.
24 posted on 02/05/2004 9:13:22 PM PST by goodnesswins (If you're Voting Dem/Constitution Party/Libertarian/Not - I guess it's easier than using your brain.)
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To: F16Fighter
Is Canada the canary in the coal mine for America circa 2010?

Canada, unlike the US (which fought for its freedom, and still continues to fight for the freedom of people around the planet), does not have a tradition of free speech as we understand it. When you wait for the colonial power to just get sick of the weather and leave of its own accord, you get a government and a society that works too hard on being polite, and not hard enough on being free.

I was born in Canada, adopted by US parents, and my first childhood memory is a Federal judge handing me a 48-star US flag when I was three and a half years old, on the day I was gifted US citizenship. To this day, it is one of the proudest days of my life.

25 posted on 02/05/2004 9:27:12 PM PST by hunter112 ("Mr. Kerry, there's a 'Mr. Satan' here to see you? Something about picking up a soul?")
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To: goodnesswins
Yes goodness, I would be considered somewhere far right of Newt Gingrich, and not only do I do lawns but I can clean a mean swimming pool!!!
26 posted on 02/05/2004 9:36:12 PM PST by snowballinhell (Me thinks something is afoot)
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To: little jeremiah
No prob. Had a couple of spare cycles and I felt the need to post. Sometimes I just can't help it!
27 posted on 02/05/2004 9:38:51 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: hunter112
Good for you hunter, I was talking with a guy from Texas who was up here on holidays, his comment was (in a southern drawl) " Yep, what y'all need up here is a good assassination , keeps them politicians on their toes"
LOL
28 posted on 02/05/2004 9:40:32 PM PST by snowballinhell (Me thinks something is afoot)
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To: snowballinhell
Reminds me of Thomas Jefferson's comment about the tree of liberty needing frequent watering from the blood of tyrants.
29 posted on 02/05/2004 9:55:00 PM PST by hunter112 ("Mr. Kerry, there's a 'Mr. Satan' here to see you? Something about picking up a soul?")
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To: VOA
well, here's what happens when your rights are granted by the state/Crown... not by a true higher power.

Amen,neighbor!

30 posted on 02/05/2004 10:10:36 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: hunter112
here, here - raising a glass to TJ
31 posted on 02/05/2004 10:20:59 PM PST by snowballinhell (Me thinks something is afoot)
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To: scripter
homosexual activist Dr. Simon Levay has often been used to support the idea that homosexuality is...

Scripter, is there an article or paper somewhere that has his quote, I think this would be a good one to have in my library.

32 posted on 02/06/2004 12:55:06 AM PST by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Jorge
Bump.
33 posted on 02/06/2004 8:34:37 AM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: scripter
The teachers said they were disturbed by Kempling's statements that homosexual relationships are unstable, 'gay' sex poses health risks and many religions consider homosexuality immoral.

These aren't just opinions, they're facts.

It's ridiculous this man is being pilloried for stating facts that the "teachers" are unwilling to face. Apparently the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth.

34 posted on 02/06/2004 8:49:15 AM PST by jimt
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To: Jorge
I truly believe this hyper-sensitivity comes from the fact that deep down inside, they know there is something very wrong with homosexuality and worse yet sense the dead end future it promises for them.

You and me both. And you don't have to be a believer, either. Given only earthly considerations, it's a loser's lifestyle.

Which is why they're so shrill in trying to force acceptance (if not "celebration") on everyone else.

35 posted on 02/06/2004 8:53:03 AM PST by jimt
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To: Finalapproach29er
It's just Canada. When push comes to shove, they have no rights in Canuckastan. A few miles further south and this guy wouldn't have had anywhere near as many problems for the piece.
36 posted on 02/06/2004 8:56:26 AM PST by Redcloak (PLEASE! STOP THE MADNESS: NO MORE JANET JACKSON BOOB THREADS!!!)
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To: scripter
In Beautiful British Columbia, they shuffle child-molesting teachers off to another district, but have an un-PC opinion, and you're busted!

The fruit of socialism is death.
37 posted on 02/06/2004 9:10:09 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: yhwhsman; EdReform; little jeremiah; John O; ArGee; Bryan; eastsider; NYer; Coleus; AFA-Michigan; ..
Scripter, is there an article or paper somewhere that has his quote, I think this would be a good one to have in my library.

I first read the quote here: The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science but they don't list the source.

I eventually found the quote in a Discover Magazine article by David Nimmons (March, 1994) "Sex and the Brain", Discover, Vol. 15, No. 3, p. 64-71. Nimmons interviewed Levay with the quote found on page 66. While I don't have a copy of this particular Discover issue, I do have a copy of the article purchased online.

For the others I've pinged here, you may find this source invaluable. I'll try to remember to put this in the categorical index thread. Here's the paragraph surrounding the quote:

[His 1991 research] made the unassuming LeVay one of the most misunderstood men in America. "It's important to stress what I didn't find," he points out with the courtly patience of someone who long ago got used to waiting for the rest of the world to catch up. "I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are 'born that way,' the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain--INAH3 is less likely to be the sole gay nucleus of the brain than part of a chain of nuclei engaged in men and women's sexual behavior. My work is just a hint in that direction--a spur, I hope, to future work."
And still 10 years later no support for a gay gene has been found. All the evidence points to environment as the major factor in determining homosexuality.
38 posted on 02/06/2004 9:12:03 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Thanks! Bookmarked
39 posted on 02/06/2004 10:38:08 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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To: F16Fighter
Is Canada the canary in the coal mine for America circa 2010?

Yes.

40 posted on 02/06/2004 10:40:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Redcloak
How long can the US hold off the rest of the world?

Democrats want to do the same here.
41 posted on 02/06/2004 12:58:00 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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