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GREEN WITHOUT ENVY (Howard Dean Ready to Bolt for Green Party)
The American Spectator ^
| February 9, 2004
| Washington Prowler
Posted on 02/09/2004 9:35:53 AM PST by bcopay
Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean and his advisors are looking into options that would allow him to run for President on the Green Party ticket should he fail in his bid to wrench the Democratic nomination away from Senator John Kerry.
Dean had been looking at the Green Party long before his campaign caught fire.
As early as late last summer, Dean was considering the Green Party as an option, particularly because at the time Ralph Nader, the Green nominee in 2000, appears lass interested in a run.
'This isn't a ploy to get the Democrats to pay attention to us, says a Deaniac in Washington.'
'This is about ensuring that our man's views and this supporters' views get carried into the fall campaign. A Green Party bid puts him into the debates with Bush and whomever the Democrats nominate. It keeps us viable.'
It would also, as the Deaniac pointed out, get the attention of Terry Maculiffe and the DNC pretty quick.
Dean is the first to brag he's brought in hundereds of thousands of new voters to the party-voters who would most likely would follow Dean to the Greens. He probably would generate more votes than Nader himself pulled in 2000, again dooming the Democrats to another loss.
Nader has not indicated what he will do in the 2004 camapaign. In the past three months he has twice pushed back a decision on whether he is running.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2004; bushwins; clark; dean; drdimento; drhealthyself; edwards; greenparty; kerry; perotreplay; thirdparty
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To: George W. Bush
The Nation now reporting that Nader is (hold your breath) hanging out with New Alliance, same folks who brought us Newman and Lola Fulani and Lyndon LaRouche. Yep, Fulani and her Marxist crew that fought Buchanan over the Reform nomination and money until it was all pointless. Nader is considering an 'independent' run which is the code for a Marxist in these circles.
Nader and the Newmanites
If Nader followed his heart and went for the Commie nomination, that would leave the Greens open for Howie.
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posted on
02/09/2004 10:56:22 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Khan Noonian Singh
Dean should have been running ont he Green Party, or Communist Party, ticket all along.
To: bcopay
Pull that trigger, Howie!LOL!! Pleeeze, Howard, turn Green, pleeeze...
To: theDentist
I think that I will write a letter and encourage him to do it. I may even put in $5 to show how "serious" I am about supporting him. But I hate to waste $5 on any Rat. I would almost rather buy $5 in beer and pour it down the drain.
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:03:45 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: MJY1288
I would give matching funds to this dynamic duo if this happens.
Continue to give to GW and then match that donation to the Green Weenies of America.
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:05:25 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
To: EGPWS
----Nope, it's a ploy to get 2nd seat on the ticket.----
Either way, Kerry's fate would be sealed. I'm not counting on Dean bolting, but let's cross our fingers and hope that the man's ego is bigger than his hatred for W.
-Dan
To: George W. Bush
This would even be better.
Nader as the socialist/communist candidate!
Green Weanie Deanie as the Watermelon Green Jihadist Candidate with someone like Green Jihad Cindy as his VP!
Then the Reverend Al could start the Free the Slaves Party and run for that organization.
Thanks for the ping about the slimey frogs and the poor people of Africa.
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:09:25 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
To: EggsAckley
thanks. they've definitely been coming out of the woodwork lately. Calling themselves conservatives, while their written thought processes read for all the world like those of the average teenage girl. (Apologies to conservative teenage girls, of course.) My first encounter with one was two weeks ago. Got crossways about something or other, back and forth on a thread, and I got the feeling I was dealing with a female who was not necessarily wanting to be known as one. Within days, it became evident that there was widespread weirdness going on.
To: Flux Capacitor
"Either way, Kerry's fate would be sealed. I'm not counting on Dean bolting, but let's cross our fingers and hope that the man's ego is bigger than his hatred for W."
I'm not getting my hopes up for a Green Dean. A bolt to the Greens would pretty much ensure a victory for W and that would be doing something good for America. That's something Dean doesn't want as tarnish on his resume when the full version of the Peoples Republic of America comes to fruition.
To: bcopay
Ooops... there goes another election for George Bush.
To: Grampa Dave
Dare we dream of such luck? Heh-heh...
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:16:00 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: bcopay
My dream scenario is Gore muscling in on the Green Party. Not as a candidate but as the party head.
Gore is not a real democrat. Not really. He's too far out to the left. He wants to take the dem party in a different direction (namely oblivion) but it would be a better move for him to take over the Greens.
The Greens have already established themselves as a third party (even if marginal). They already have a core of socialist principles and platforms. They will buy even more copies of Gore's 'Earth in the Balance'.
Seriously though, if Gore were to take over the Green party he could make an appeal to the Progressive Caucus that is already in Congress (Kucinich being a key member) he could promise a sort of 'coalition gov't' even if his candidate doesn't get elected.
The trade-off would be, obviously, causing Kerry to lose this election but it would force the Dem establishment leftwards to appease the Greens or force the Dems to admit that their only future is to govern in Congress by coalition similar to the way it is done in Germany at the moment.
What this would do would allow Green voters to vote without guilt for their candidates.
Gore could run Dean as his candidate this time with Kucinich as Veep. You never know, in an absolute coup, he might come in SECOND place, thus solidifying the Greens in American politics. Gore would have a party, something for his ego. The GOP would have the White House for the next twenty years.
But the dangers of a coalition in Congress would be lurking...
To: bcopay
Oh, I hope Dean DOES run as a Green candidate!! He'd get MORE votes than Nader in '00!!!!
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:24:17 AM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
To: Petronski
LOL!! The greatest pic of Howie Dean of all time!!
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:24:42 AM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
To: Petronski
We need a graphic artist to make the red into various shades of green!
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:27:07 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
To: bcopay
GO DEAN GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:29:02 AM PST
by
petercooper
(Tone down the garbage, the mean-mouthing, the tearing down of your neighbor and being so pompous.)
To: Grampa Dave
The original was blue. If he goes Green, I'll see to it the graphic does too.
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:31:57 AM PST
by
Petronski
(John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
To: Petronski
Green! I'm dreaming of green for Deanie!
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posted on
02/09/2004 11:34:55 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
To: ConservativeMan55
Hello.... Dean will be a spoiler. This would be a VLWC to plant a spoiler so they can beat President Bush.
To: bcopay
I hate to throw cold water on the idea, but I think we would be better off without Dean as a third party candidate. IMHO, the President is very likely to be able to win without Dean, Nader, Gore or any other big-name fruit loop drawing lefty votes. My concern is that the additional ultra-lefties brought out by such a critter will vote Dem down the rest of the ticket, hurting Republicans in Senate, House and other contests.
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posted on
02/09/2004 12:03:42 PM PST
by
RebelBanker
(Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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