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Why Bush Held His Own with Russert (Noonan is wrong)
TechCentralStation.com ^ | 02-09-04 | Fraser Seitel

Posted on 02/09/2004 10:02:05 AM PST by veronica

With apologies to the Democratic candidates, The New York Times editorial page, Don Imus, and -- of all people -- Peggy Noonan, I beg to differ. I think President Bush acquitted himself smartly this weekend in his head-to-head battle with the dreaded Tim Russert on Meet the Press.

He didn't appear "tired, unsure, and often bumbling," as Ms. Noonan asserts. Rather, he appeared calm, confident, firm and self-assured. Moreover, he refused to let himself get drawn in by the famous Russert baited barbs that so easily trap lesser interviewees.

Ms. Noonan, who wrote a book about how, as a White House speechwriter, she invented some of the greatest phrases that President Reagan and Bush I ever uttered, is particularly distressed that the President "did not seem prepared" for the Russert interview.

Nonsense.

In terms of preparation -- what communications consultants like me call "media training" -- here are several positive performance techniques that the President displayed on Sunday, all of which helped make his case.

Find your sea legs.

The toughest part of any TV interview is the first question. The interviewer holds all the marbles. He knows what he will ask. You don't. So an interviewee must "fight off" that first question -- get acclimated, get comfortable, "find his sea legs," before trying to make his points.

"On Friday," Russert began, "You announced a commission to look into our intelligence failures in Iraq. You have been reluctant to do that for some time. Why?"

Bush parried, "First, let me step back and talk about intelligence in general if I might."

He then elaborated on the role of intelligence in fighting terrorism, on what terrorists are all about, and what the commission's mission will be. Bush critics decried that he never answered the question. True. But to his credit, he had kabuki danced enough to find his sea legs, relax, and enter a "comfort zone" that would carry him through the remainder of the interview.

Stay on message.

The cardinal rule of media training. No matter what they ask, you give your answers.

Ms. Noonan says Mr. Bush "fumbled" his talking points. Not true. Here, in essence, was the President's primary message.

"This is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war President. I make decisions here in the Oval Office with war on my mind. The American people deserve someone who sees the world for what it is and acts decisively."

Bush hammered at those same broad themes -- war on terrorism, experience in command, willingness to make tough decisions -- throughout the interview. In so doing, he not only set the tone for the Russert interview, but previewed the primary Republican messages separating the incumbent from his challenger in the campaign to come.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

The real reason that smart executives consider media training mandatory before entering the ring of media combat is to drill home the three or four points that must be repeated.

Prior to launching into the dangers posed by Saddam Hussein for the umpteenth time in the hour-long interview, Bush apologized in advance, "I don't want to sound like a broken record."

Sure he did.

A well-trained interviewee wants to lay on those "must air points" as many times as possible, so all those latte-guzzling channel surfers at home get the message loud and clear.

The Bush message -- that "Saddam was a threat who needed to be taken out, with or without WMDs" -- may have been too repetitive for Ms. Noonan and not precise enough for The New York Times. But that doesn't mean a lot of voters don't agree with him.

Preempt the follow up.

Tim Russert is a master at cornering a guest with a seemingly straightforward set up question and then lowering the boom with a follow up dagger.

The only way to fend off such a one-two knockout is by preempting the question to come, thereby deflating the potential impact.

TR: "Will you testify before the intelligence commission?"

GWB: "I'd be glad to visit with them. I want to make sure the intelligence gathering system works well. And by the way, I believe the CIA is ably led by George Tenet. "

TR: "His job is not in jeopardy?"

GWB: "No not at all."

By raising the issue of his embattled CIA director before Russert could exhibit his trademark negative quotes and graphics, the President defused the issue and escaped unscathed.

Drop back.

The quickest way to get unhinged by a nasty question is to denounce it, deny it, or otherwise attack it frontally. Ordinarily much better is to verbally "take a step back" and transition to your rehearsed answer.

All it requires is a simple phrase: "Let me put your question in context"…"Let's examine that issue you raise"…or when Russert raised the specter of an economy run amuck…

TR: "The unemployment rate has gone up 33%. There's been a loss of 2.2 million jobs. We've gone from an $81 billion surplus to a $521 billion deficit. The debt is up 23%. Based on that record, why should the American people rehire you as CEO?"

GWB: "Because I have been the President during a period of tremendous stress on our economy and made the decisions necessary to enhance recovery. I want to review the bidding here."

Then, having "stepped back" from the question, the President proceeded to methodically depict the various elements -- from pre-Bush stock market declines to war to corporate scandals, etc. -- that led to economic decline and what he has prescribed to engender recovery.

Whether his prescription makes sense is for voters to decide. But his TV explanation was clear and committed and, because of his media training, framed in context.

Interrupt.

An interviewee can't come across as a bully. That was among Bush's TV failings in his campaign four years ago. A guest should be gracious and deferential.

But, he can't be a patsy either. Once a python like Russert senses hesitancy, indecision or unease -- in other words, "smells blood" -- he springs straight for the jugular. So you must interrupt. To wit:

GWB: "We're fighting a war so the Iraqis can build a nation."

TR: "But the United Nations………."

GWB: "The war is against terrorists and disgruntled Baathists who want to stop the spread of freedom."

TR: "I, I…"

GWB: "If I might, people say to me………………."

By refusing to cede the floor, Bush interrupted Russert's momentum, dominated the dialogue, and successfully kept his eager interlocutor off balance.

Shift the blame.

One time-honored interview technique, which Russert practices religiously, is to quote nasty adversaries and goad a guest into teeing off on an absent party.

A good media training student will never attack someone not there to defend himself. An exceptional student will go one step further, subtly shifting the blame to his accuser. Here, Bush excelled.

TR: "The chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Terrence McAuliffe, said, 'George Bush is a man who was AWOL in the Alabama National Guard.' How do you respond?"

GWB: "Political season is here. I served in the National Guard and got an honorable discharge. I would be careful to not denigrate the Guard. It's fine to go after me. But I wouldn't denigrate service to the Guard. There are really a lot of fine people who serve in the National Guard and today are serving in Iraq."

McAuliffe, of course, wasn't "denigrating the National Guard"; he was denigrating Bush. No matter. The President skillfully turned the tables on his rabid dog accuser by shifting the blame and the focus away from himself.

Peggy Noonan compares the significance of the Bush-Russert interview to Teddy Kennedy's horrifying, post-Chappaquiddick kamikaze performance with Roger Mudd in 1980. This characterization, a full 10 months before the election with many TV interviews and speeches and unexpected revelations to come, may be just a tad overwrought.

The fact is to answer his accusers; Bush chose to enter the ring with the best interviewer on television. And the President held his own. He appeared conversational, controlled, candid and committed. As the initial media salvo in his reelection campaign, President Bush did fine.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; gwb2004; mtp; nbc; peggynoonan; russert
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To: veronica
The most memorable part of the interview for most viewers is the sincere concern for the families of those who lost loved ones.

It was a win for Dubya.

61 posted on 02/09/2004 11:57:46 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: shhrubbery!
"McAullife WAS denigrating the Guard when he stated that Bush 'had never done military service.' McAuliffe's implication was that serving in the Guard was chopped liver.

Right. And so has Kerry. I disagree with the author on that point too. He's just dead wrong. When they claim he was AWOL, they're attacking Bush. When they imply the Guard isn't real military, they're attacking the Guard.

62 posted on 02/09/2004 12:00:07 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: wtc911
Bush's appearance yesterday was underwhelming and unconvincing to

YOUR impressions, YOUR take, +24 HOURS after the fact, WITHOUT benefit of review via video tape I'LL BET.

WHEREAS a number of us now HAVE reviewed his performance several times and DON'T have the same 'impression' as you, you, without benefit of review or even taken notes at the time!

I guess you DID appreciate the insincere, mock joviality of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton et al - FOR ME they made my brain leak out my ears!

DID you NOTICE the quick little "yeahs" that Pres. Bush gave Russert on quite a NUMBER of those questions - right after Russert would pose a question?

I'LL BET those 'sailed' right past you - those were part of the subtle 'full court press' that Bush countered Russert with!

63 posted on 02/09/2004 12:01:06 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: wtc911
Bush's appearance yesterday was underwhelming and unconvincing to the people who need to be convinced

It wasn't for that, Ye have little faith; Bush always, always, always, pulls the carpet out from under the idiots. Democrats are barely, barely, barely, a challenge for Bush, they fall down every time the Bush team focuses their energy on the democrats. Kerry is a fresh target, and like a fine wine, you let it breathe, swish it around in the cup to check out its legs, and take a small sip before you suck it down. Gore is nutz, Dean is nutz, Lieberman is isolated, McCain is on board, Anne Richards is nutz, the Clintons are no longer a factor (they look like political whores).

Bush always destroys his enemies, completely.

Join reality.

64 posted on 02/09/2004 12:03:22 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: Porterville
My comments were based solely on Bush's MTP appearance. It was weak. You disagree, fine, that's why this forum is here. But, don't presume to know anything about what I'm thinking if I didn't put it in words. My grasp on reality is firm. I believe he will win in November and I am aware of the clear weakness that hangs on Kerry past and present.

As I wrote earlier, the very fact that others of us (both here and in media ie Noonan and Rush) saw a less than persuasive performance indicates that he could have done much better.

66 posted on 02/09/2004 12:12:56 PM PST by wtc911 (Well, if it bothers you why talk about it?)
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To: alwaysconservative
"In settings such as these (if you compare his other interviews as well), looking TOO rehearsed would have been grounds for a whole other raft of complaints"

I recall listening to Tony Blair testifying before the Hutton commission. His detractors were so bound and determined that his government had "sexed up" Iraq WMD intel that they immediately started saying "Oh he'll get off because he's a such a smooth talker. He's still guilty."

Same with Bush. If he HAD had his "talking points" down, he would have been condemned as being too slick, which MUST be proof he's guilty.

Do NOT change, Mr. President!

67 posted on 02/09/2004 12:17:49 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: wtc911
Something tells me that Rush and Noonan aren't privy to the Bush blueprint. In fact, I have a lot more faith in the Bush Team than Rush and Noonan's opinion.

68 posted on 02/09/2004 12:22:31 PM PST by Porterville (Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in the deepest part of hell)
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To: veronica
Agreed. Peggy Noonan is usually very perceptive, but not this time.
69 posted on 02/09/2004 12:30:16 PM PST by MamaLucci (Free The Judiciary Committee Memos!)
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To: wtc911
Twice that I remember, Russert tried to cut the president off and the president cute right back with "Let me finish". And Russert did. That didn't look weak.

BTW, you're repeated use of the word "underwhelming" makes it look like you're using a talking point of your own.

70 posted on 02/09/2004 12:30:42 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: wtc911
Could it be we in flyover country,Texas,etc., simply like and understand his way of expressing himself better than ,say,a New Yorker?

I thought he did fine.Not out of the park fine.. just fine.
71 posted on 02/09/2004 12:31:34 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
Righto! Give me honest over slick ANY day. We had 8 years of slick, and look at that happened to this country in that time. "Slick" isn't "strong" any more than "honest" is "weak".

Anyone who thinks that way is an idiot.

72 posted on 02/09/2004 12:44:43 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: MEG33
Yep, that's it, I'm a New Yorker so I couldn't possibly have a valid opinion on it.
73 posted on 02/09/2004 12:45:50 PM PST by wtc911 (Well, if it bothers you why talk about it?)
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To: veronica
There are DUers to this very DAY, who are crazy enough to think Gore won all those Presidential debates, even though he acted like a pompous bully in the third one.
74 posted on 02/09/2004 12:49:54 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Neets
Peggy Noonan compares the significance of the Bush-Russert interview to Teddy Kennedy's horrifying, post-Chappaquiddick kamikaze performance with Roger Mudd in 1980.

Please tell me Peggy didn't say this??

75 posted on 02/09/2004 1:06:03 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: mystery-ak
Peggy has been hanging around Chris Matthews and Howard Fineman too long....

Don't forget Pat too

76 posted on 02/09/2004 1:06:56 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Porterville; cake_crumb
Answer you both...there are millions out there who want Bush to look weak. There are millions for whom Bush could never look weak. Those groups don't count, they are set in stone.

The other millions of Americans want either Bush or the presumptive Dem nominee to make them feel safe and that someone they can trust is in charge. Those millions were yesterday's target audience. If I were one of those, and I am not but a lot of people I know are, my mind would not have been put at ease by this (here it comes again CC) underwhelming performance.

One poster on this thread decided that I had not "reviewed" the interview enough to have a valid opinion of it. How many times do you think the average fence sitter will go over it? You get one chance to make that first impression and given the lack of public appearance by Bush (compared to the primaries-hyped Dems) this amounted to a first date, at least a first shot in the election year.

And for the record, I do not have an agenda here, my assessment of yesterday is my honest one. No one would have been happier to see him come out crushing all those in front of him. It just didn't happen.

Good luck to both of you, this horse is getting pretty near dead.

77 posted on 02/09/2004 1:07:13 PM PST by wtc911 (Well, if it bothers you why talk about it?)
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To: veronica

finally someone gets it right


78 posted on 02/09/2004 1:15:20 PM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: veronica; WVNan
I was fairly upset with the interview at first, thinking it had gone badly. This assessment makes me feel MUCH better!
79 posted on 02/09/2004 1:18:57 PM PST by ZOTnot (Kerry: "A horse is a horse, of course......." (Why, Senator, the LONG face?))
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To: wtc911
Re read my post.I said it might account for some of the widely differing perceptions.I did not say your opinion was invalid..it was an opinion.
80 posted on 02/09/2004 1:19:50 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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