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Viet Vet Urges Kerry To Come Clean
www.jenmartinez.com ^ | Sunday, May 25, 2003 | Larry J. O'Daniel #

Posted on 02/11/2004 5:36:13 PM PST by SAMWolf

Vietnam Veteran Larry J. O'Daniel has today challenged former fellow officer and veteran, John Forbes Kerry to come clean with charges Kerry has made in the past. O'Daniel, a decorated combat veteran from Vietnam and Phoenix says that the issue is one that the Senator himself has brought on.

Senator John Forbes Kerry is attempting to be our generation's Vietnam War hero, much the same way his avowed idol, John F. Kennedy was of that generation. Kerry falls short in many ways. I do not deny his heroism under fire. His Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Hearts all attest to that. Attempting to ride into the White House on those medals alone is not enough. As a former officer who served as a combat advisor and participant in a Special Operations program, I know a little bit about integrity, courage, and character. Kerry lacks what it takes to be Commander in Chief.

Kerry would be an extreme embarrassment to his party if nominated for President. On the surface, he seems to be the exact type of rival needed to run against a popular President with a military background, albeit not in combat. A popular President who proved his courage jockeying supersonic aircraft. On the surface, Kerry would seem to be able to cut into the military vote that has become increasingly one party over the past 30 years.

This senator is JFK from Massachusetts, a coincidence that he has played upon for years. Like the first JFK, he is a heroic Naval Officer. However, he has a record which speaks volumes about his current abilities and views. Kerry will both exploit his war record and run from it. His checkerboard past explains his actions today. He has been critical of the way the current war on terrorism has been waged. Inevitably, his criticism is always preceded by media notices of Kerry, decorated Vietnam war veteran. However, thirty two years ago, Kerry charged decorated war veterans with unspeakable crimes. Those charges were never proven accurate.

Before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April 1971, Kerry asserted he represented veterans, honorably discharged and very highly decorated, who participated in war crimes. These crimes were not isolated incidents, he charged, but crimes committed on a day - to - day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. Crimes that this country made them do.

These veterans personally raped women, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned on the power. They cut off limbs; blew up bodies; randomly shot at civilians; razed villages like Ghenghis Khan; shot livestock for fun; poisoned food; and ravaged the Vietnamese countryside. From his personal experience, Kerry asserted that the Vietnamese only wanted to work in rice paddies without our helicopters strafing and napalming them and their villages. Our men died while our allies refused to help and fight. Kerry said we rationalized destroying villages in order to save them; accepted a My Lai; enforced free fire zones by shooting anything that moves. Our GIs falsified body counts while leaders glorified body counts. In a well orchestrated political move, he asked, how do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? The well scrubbed veteran began his career that day.

A problem arises. Kerry's testimony was largely untrue. These charges were investigated then and since. My challenge as we honor veterans of that war and others - Prove them or apologize.

Kerry's widely covered charges largely paralleled that of another highly decorated veteran, LTC Anthony Herbert. Some of the unsubstantiated and uncorroborated accusations of Kerry were almost identical to specific charges leveled by Herbert. Both charged war crimes were ignored, uninvestigated, part of the routine.


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KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; johnkerry; kerry; larryodaniel; vietnam; vietnamveterans; vvaw
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Kerry relied upon phonies and wannabes for support. His prominence has allowed current phonies and wannabes to continue the unsubstantiated allegations made all those years ago and which Kerry appears to condone even today. For example:

The Senator's own VVAW and similar groups relied upon people like: K. Barton Osborn, a Vietnam veteran and testifier of atrocities to Congress. He told of prisoners being thrown out of helicopters, a woman starved to death, a prisoner being killed by a six inch dowel pushed through his ear. Osborn was not in Phoenix, refused to name names, and provided no documentation.

Lieutenants Francis Reitemeyer and Michael J. Cohn. Both sought conscientious objector status because of Phoenix. Reitemeyer testified to being assigned to Phoenix as an adviser and maintained a kill quota of fifty bodies a month. They became famous as My Lai hit the news. Neither served in Vietnam, in Phoenix, or had any first hand information. Reitemeyer later denied receiving any assassination training. Both were at Ft. Holabird when I underwent my intelligence training there.

Dux, like others relied, upon the specific charges of Herbert, which were publicly aired in this same time frame as that of Senator Kerry, in order to prove his charges. Herbert was highly decorated, apparently corroborating the Senator¹s charges. Despite highly specific unit naming charges of some 21 war crimes, the facts of a subsequent investigation contradict both Herbert and Kerry. Overall, this contemporaneous investigation lasted seven months. Investigators located and interviewed 333 personnel located in 31 different states, and six different foreign countries, including Vietnam. Out of the 21 incidents involved in the initial charges by Herbert, only seven charges had sufficient substance to merit action or further investigation. Two of the seven had already been acted upon with justice administered. One ended with an article 15 punishment and one with a general court martial.

Two more of the seven involved Vietnamese versus Vietnamese offenses, outside the scope of American jurisprudence and not necessarily proven. The remaining three, at the time of the DA writing, November 5, 1971, were then pending further action by officers exercising general court martial jurisdiction. In other words, it was being further investigated to see if it warranted charges being filed. This shows atrocities and allegations of atrocities were neither condoned nor swept under the rug.

The Senator allegedly knew from personal experience of atrocities being committed and condoned by officers at all levels of command. He was obligated to report those atrocities. There is no known record of any such report from the Senator. My Lai was not condoned, it was prosecuted. Fellow anti-war activist Daniel Ellsberg, who likewise served in the war zone, belied atrocity charges being more pronounced in Vietnam versus previous wars. The Senator used trumped up allegations from phonies, wannabes, stretchers of the truth to sully the valor, service, and integrity of his fellow veterans to climb a political ladder of success. When sentiments changed, he embraced those same veterans becoming an alleged champion of the Vietnam era.

When challenged last week to repudiate his previous testimony, after I faxed to his office for review, a spokesman there abruptly terminated the call saying if Senator Kerry testified to it, he stands by it. The Senator recently condoned the alleged atrocities, war crimes, committed by a fellow Democratic Senator and Vietnam Veteran, Robert Kerrey. He said the operation should not be investigated because it allegedly happened all the time in Vietnam. Further, on the Sam Donaldson show, Kerry short shrifted the program, Phoenix, under which the atrocity allegedly occurred, saying he personally helped conduct similar anti-infrastructure operations, ferrying SEALs. This, apparently is part of the source of the Senator¹s alleged first hand knowledge he testified to before.

The Senator, as a former officer, knows his obligations were to avoid participating in war crimes and reporting them when knowledge of them occurred. Instead, the Senator broad brushed veterans of the war as crazed killers forced to be that because of governmental policy. As a US Senator now, when faced head on with an allegation that a member of his party, his Senatorial Fraternity, Robert Kerrey helped cut a civilian's throat and possibly commanded an operation that killed over 20 civilians without provocation, the Senator Kerry reverted to the 1971 allegations that everyone did it. He ignored the formalized eyewitness allegation by a veteran of that operation who belatedly lived up to a responsibility to report a crime. Murder in a war zone has no time limits for investigation or prosecution.

The Senator, knows the charge is that Kerrey was on a Phoenix mission, like those he self proclaimed to have participated in, because the Senator and Sam Donaldson discussed that specific aspect on Donaldson¹s show. As I watched the Senator's response from that show, he implied personal knowledge of those Phoenix missions, although he clearly ducked any involvement with Phoenix. No proud Vietnam warrior emerged in that interview.

My challenge is clear. Make the specific charges, times, dates, persons, programs, units involved, of war crimes as outlined in your 1971 testimony. Be specific on your own knowledge of these war crimes. Clear the air about Phoenix, your participation, knowledge, even suspicions. Support the investigation of the war crime allegations of your former colleague. Do not allow his status of being a fellow privileged fraternity member from doing your sworn duty, either now as a Senator, or from that era, where as an officer and gentleman, you claimed personal knowledge of atrocities.

Either itemize those incidents or apologize to the veterans of Vietnam whose reputations, valor, and integrity you sullied then and now and renounce those charges you then and now refuse to itemize. I make this challenge as a veteran of Vietnam, Phoenix, and as a former fellow officer and colleague. Duty - Honor - Country - These are our obligations. You are at a fork in a path. Integrity or disgrace. Your choice.

1 posted on 02/11/2004 5:36:14 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo; Victoria Delsoul; Darksheare; radu; Jen; bluesagewoman; HiJinx; ...
Ping
2 posted on 02/11/2004 5:37:54 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
"Kerry's testimony was largely untrue."

Seems to be an on-going problem with lib/dems....

3 posted on 02/11/2004 5:38:46 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: SAMWolf






4 posted on 02/11/2004 5:39:45 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: SAMWolf
Powerful stuff, SAM. Kerry made false accusations under oath and associated with imposters. Whatever else Kerry may be guilty of, this can be proven. In addition to the names in this article, VVAW members involved with Kerry were Robert O. Muller (co-founder of VVAW) and Joe Yandle who killed a man in while committing armed robbery. In my estimation, imposters were more despicable than draft dodgers.
5 posted on 02/11/2004 5:58:04 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Ben Hecks
Larry J. O'Daniel, the author of this article has his stuff together. He makes a real good "put up or shut up" case.
6 posted on 02/11/2004 6:00:53 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
"The Senator allegedly knew from personal experience of atrocities being committed and condoned by officers at all levels of command. He was obligated to report those atrocities. There is no known record of any such report from the Senator."

This little discrepancy to me is just a tad more important than whether George Bush served guard duty on Tuesdays or Wednesdays.

7 posted on 02/11/2004 6:01:07 PM PST by Williams
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To: SAMWolf
"The Senator recently condoned the alleged atrocities, war crimes, committed by a fellow Democratic Senator and Vietnam Veteran, Robert Kerrey. He said the operation should not be investigated because it allegedly happened all the time in Vietnam."

This is a beaut. Those of you too young to remember Vietnam have no idea of the illogic and immorality engaged in by the left. Kerry spins like a crazy top, as did all of his ilk.

8 posted on 02/11/2004 6:06:01 PM PST by Williams
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To: Williams
From what I read about the Phoenix Program it was working and the VC were terrified of it.
9 posted on 02/11/2004 6:11:44 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
Kerry, if his testimony is to be believed, was derelict in his duty as an officer in the United States Navy. By his own words he witnessed or knew of war crimes and made no verifiable report to a senior officer. He should be recalled to active duty and investigated for acting as an accomplice after the fact to a series of war crimes. And if the Article 32 hearing is satisfied, he should be tried at a General Court Martial.
10 posted on 02/11/2004 6:14:08 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: SAMWolf
Very powerful, SAM! Got this gem bookmarked and will print it off.
I believe a mass e-mailing is in order, too. This probably won't make the lamestream news so the word will just have to get out another way. :-)
11 posted on 02/11/2004 6:15:40 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: xkaydet65
Kerry, if his testimony is to be believed

There's the catch, I sure don't believe him.

12 posted on 02/11/2004 6:16:48 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: radu
Thanks Radu.
13 posted on 02/11/2004 6:17:14 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
I'm sure the White House press corps will all over this just like they were with the Bush service record the other day.

Yeah, right. I don't won't to sound like a violent Neanderthal, but man I wish I could thrash these hypocritical bastards. They certainly deserve it.
14 posted on 02/11/2004 6:22:44 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
won't = want
15 posted on 02/11/2004 6:23:10 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: SAMWolf
Oh no, the thanks goes to you, SAM, for getting this out for others to see.
Kerry is getting away with his lies and this is perfect ammo to deal with that, and hopefully others will make use of it as I intend to.
16 posted on 02/11/2004 6:27:21 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: anniegetyourgun
the hero's of that war are known to those who were there...
It isnt medals, it isnt who will be the next president..for the bottem feeders to push this issue...shows us the carps the are...
17 posted on 02/11/2004 6:27:47 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: Lee'sGhost
I'm sure the White House press corps will all over this just like they were with the Bush service record the other day

I wouldn't be holding my breath. ;-)

18 posted on 02/11/2004 6:28:43 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
And this will begin working its way up the journalistic food chain when?
19 posted on 02/11/2004 6:33:16 PM PST by js1138
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To: counterpunch
Kerry's also altered his handwriting so his signature resembles John F. Kennedy's. He's a total loser.
20 posted on 02/11/2004 6:33:25 PM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
amazing how these candidates are all self-destructing
21 posted on 02/11/2004 6:35:18 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: SAMWolf
Let's call a spade a spade. He was in it all for his politcal future. No matter what he did in Vietnam it's what he did by getting out early and what he did when he came back that is atrocious. He's a self promoting lying little weasel. He should be ashamed of himself, he's a traitor as far as I'm concerned based on his testimony before congress about our troops. /rant
22 posted on 02/11/2004 6:35:37 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Howlin; PhiKapMom
Kerry..... if he knew any of these things he keeps saying regarding actions taken by our military against the civilian population then he was obligated to take actions to report and stop it......

His testimony and talk is going to dig him a deep hole if this continues......
23 posted on 02/11/2004 6:38:23 PM PST by deport (BUSH - CHENEY 2004 ..... 265 days until Tuesday 2 November)
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To: SAMWolf
If John Freakin' Kerry witnessed any of the atrocities that he claimed were every day occurances AND DID NOT REPORT THEM AT THE TIME HE WITNESSED THEM, then he should be charged with NONFEASANCE and let the court decide if his inaction was MALFEASANCE or MISFEASANCE!
24 posted on 02/11/2004 6:38:37 PM PST by leprechaun9 (Beware of little expenses because a small leak will sink a great ship!)
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To: SAMWolf
I think Kerry was shot in the rear-end while running away from a firefight. A full investigation is needed. And then another, and then another, and then another. It is time for that scumbag coward Kerry to come clean.
25 posted on 02/11/2004 6:39:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SAMWolf
Bump
26 posted on 02/11/2004 6:43:20 PM PST by Boot Hill
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To: SAMWolf; backhoe
Thanks for posting this information!

Backhoe -- Here is another one!
27 posted on 02/11/2004 6:49:37 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: deport
Isn't this unbelieveable -- my inbox has been filled today with anti-Kerry articles. Someone is doing a data dump on Kerry but the broadcast media is still all gaga over Kerry!
28 posted on 02/11/2004 6:51:08 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: leprechaun9
Agree but unfortunately it will never happen. Can't we all just get along? Let's move on. Nothing to see here.
29 posted on 02/11/2004 6:51:10 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: SAMWolf
John Kerry: A Decorated Viet Nam War Criminal.

It must be true, he said so in his own testinony.

30 posted on 02/11/2004 6:54:38 PM PST by There's millions of'em (I believe John Kerry, don't you?)
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To: PhiKapMom
Someone is doing a data dump on Kerry but the broadcast media is still all gaga over Kerry!


Do you reckon Candidate #2 is doing it.... He said the other day that less than 25% of the primay delegates have been chosen. So he's thinking he still has a strong chance or that's how I read him.
31 posted on 02/11/2004 6:57:43 PM PST by deport (BUSH - CHENEY 2004 ..... 265 days until Tuesday 2 November)
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To: hadaclueonce
I had several uncles in WWII and some of them were very seriously injured. They would never talk about "the war" even when 2 or more of them were together. I could never understand that then because i viewed them as heroes and wanted to hear their stories.

After doing my time in Nam aug 70 -aug 71 w/101st airborne, phu bai...and coming back home (thankfully in one piece) I could understand it.

I have lots of friends that were there and when we are together, whether at a bbq or fish fry or just visiting, Nam is very seldom if ever mentioned. I am not a "war hero", nor do i profess to be...I was a REMF and damn glad of it...some of my friends were not so lucky and left some body parts over there.

point is, if you were there, you don't need to talk about it...unit number and location is enough to establish validity and then a warm handshake and a cold beer and then the topic moves to something important.
32 posted on 02/11/2004 7:06:32 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: xkaydet65
That is the sanest suggestion I have heard throughout this whole flap. I agree.
33 posted on 02/11/2004 7:06:43 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: deport
All this crap gives me a big bad headache. I did 3 tours in Vietnam, didn't like it at all. I would have loved to got back to the world but.....My parents weren't connected! Never ever would I have demonstrated against the war while my buddies were still in country. I cannot say what is fact or fiction with this Mr. Kerry but my gut tells me he is another fat cat politician who will do or say anything to get in office. I hope Mr. Bush gets his machinery moving and sets his records straight. Oooh my head.
34 posted on 02/11/2004 7:08:08 PM PST by JamesA (Stand up, stand together or die as one.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Nine dwarves was too many to last, alas. Heard Rush this afternoon, discussing the media's gushing over Kerry and the Clintons' use of surrogates to chop Dean off at the ankles. We're in for a long, hot summer.
35 posted on 02/11/2004 7:20:15 PM PST by hershey
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To: There's millions of'em
"John Kerry: A Decorated Viet Nam War Criminal".
It must be true, he said so in his own testinony

Isn't it convenient that he recommended himself for the decorations. I am beginning to believe that his entire version of his "heroic" action is a lie.
36 posted on 02/11/2004 7:20:20 PM PST by zygoat
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To: deport
Remember #2 candidate is staying above the fray -- yeah right.

Think Kerry has too much "mo" right now and being backed by the liberal broadcast media is helping him.

Something is going on though with AP and Reuters -- print media is digging like crazy on Kerry. I am like in shock at the articles coming out by these two news organizations.
37 posted on 02/11/2004 7:22:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: SAMWolf
These crimes were not isolated incidents, he (Kerry) charged, but crimes committed on a day - to - day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command. Crimes that this country made them do.

These veterans personally raped women, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned on the power. They cut off limbs; blew up bodies; randomly shot at civilians; razed villages like Ghenghis Khan; shot livestock for fun; poisoned food; and ravaged the Vietnamese countryside. From his personal experience, Kerry asserted that the Vietnamese only wanted to work in rice paddies without our helicopters strafing and napalming them and their villages. Our men died while our allies refused to help and fight. Kerry said we rationalized destroying villages in order to save them; accepted a My Lai; enforced free fire zones by shooting anything that moves. Our GIs falsified body counts while leaders glorified body counts. In a well orchestrated political move, he asked, how do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? The well scrubbed veteran began his career that day.

A problem arises. Kerry's testimony was largely untrue. These charges were investigated then and since. My challenge as we honor veterans of that war and others - Prove them or apologize.

Exactly! Bring it on, Hanoi John! Let's have it. As the article indicates, "Some of the unsubstantiated and uncorroborated accusations of Kerry were almost identical to specific charges leveled by Herbert. Both charged war crimes were ignored, uninvestigated, part of the routine."

This time we shouldn't ignore it.

38 posted on 02/11/2004 7:30:37 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Seems to me he also lied under oath to Congress during these hearings. Think he'll ever be held accountable?
39 posted on 02/11/2004 7:32:00 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
Bump
40 posted on 02/11/2004 7:34:47 PM PST by Darnright (6,875,029 Virginians did NOT vote for Ketchup Boy this past Tuesday)
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To: SAMWolf
New Hampshire Flag - "Live Free Or Die"Thanks, Sam, this is very useful information. My own take on Kerry is that he was in the military as a stepping stone to political aspirations. He did an ignominious 6-month tour on a destroyer off the coast and well out of harm's way and then decided he needed a better resume, so he volunteered for coastal patrols in the Swift Boats. Little did he know that the Swift Boats would be used for riverine warfare by the time he arrived. I have read with interest that his boat was based in An Thoi. Although that means nothing to most people, An Thoi is located on Dao (island) Phu Quouc, well off the western Vietnam coast. Dao Phu Quoc just happened to be the location of the huge US POW camp. It was about as secure as Berlin, NH. I know, I flew in there many times. We looked forward to an approach with no ground fire, a nice swim in the ocean to cool off, and a fine meal at the Navy mess hall. An Thoi had the best food in Vietnam.

I suspect the source of his rage against the war and his lies about his fellow officers and men stems from his own inexperienced behavior. I have read varying accounts of his "kills" and it sounds like a boatload of out of control people, who should have been under the command of Lt. Kerry. He was brought up in a normal, if privileged, manner and he likely suffered from enormous feelings of guilt about his own actions and his failure to command his men appropriately. Instead of taking personal responsibility for his failings, he decided to attempt to place the blame elsewhere to assuage his own guilt. I also suspect he is very vulnerable on this whole episode.

While he attempts to paint GW as serving less than honorably, I find that hard to swallow. He accepted two of his Purple Hearts for wounds that were nothing more than scratches, knowing that three PHs and he had a way out. His total tour was just four months. Obviously, he was a better guardhouse lawyer than I, as I had never heard of the three Purple Heart loophole, nor would I have applied for it under the circumstances Kerry did. On the other hand, no self-respecting officer would accept a Purple Heart for a "band-aid" wound if he had ever seen the men who truly earned the award. I cannot imagine an officer who would use a loophole to sneak out and leave his brothers to do the fighting. Most of us served out our tours as prescribed and didn't let down our fellow officers and men.

Now GW, on the other hand, graduated from USAF Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT) in about the same era as I did and I know exactly what he had to do to make the grade. He went on to fly the F-102 Flying Coffin, which takes a special type of person. There is no crew to bail you out of trouble; it is just you and the airplane and you survive on your own skill and ability. I have respect for any man who had the right stuff to graduate from UPT -- 53 weeks of intensive training with never a let-up. As an aside, the F-102 was never assigned to South Vietnam; the closest GW would have been, even if activated, was Thailand. Despite what the media like to say, GW did not take the "easy way out", that was the province of the Klintoon and many others like him.

It seems to me that the realization is beginning to settle on the Dems that Kerry is going to lead the parade and they are terrified now that it has happened. He is not a leader and, in fact, is downright weak. We just have to exploit his flaws to our advantage.

41 posted on 02/11/2004 7:35:09 PM PST by Old Airplane Driver (Live Free or Die)
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To: SAMWolf
yes, but since, amongst his many slanderous and treasonous allegations, he was perjuring himself about troops involved with rape so the DemoncRATs will say, "it's all about sex"
42 posted on 02/11/2004 7:36:39 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: SAMWolf
Think he'll ever be held accountable?

Let's see… is he a Republican?

43 posted on 02/11/2004 7:36:51 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: SAMWolf

Lest We Forget September 11, 2001

Senator Kerry's military service to our great country should be applauded and cheered. His anti-war activities I deplore. Kerry's still stuck on fighting Viet Nam. President Bush is seriously fighting al Qaeda.

Senator Kerry makes me truly wonder if he ever could give our brave USA Troops the support and high regard that our President does.

44 posted on 02/11/2004 7:39:01 PM PST by harpo11 (Hey, We're Fighting the Dem Cong!)
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To: Old Airplane Driver
Thanks for the info on An Thoi.

On the other hand, no self-respecting officer would accept a Purple Heart for a "band-aid" wound if he had ever seen the men who truly earned the award. I cannot imagine an officer who would use a loophole to sneak out and leave his brothers to do the fighting. Most of us served out our tours as prescribed and didn't let down our fellow officers and men.

I agree with you there, Kerry was there to get his ticket punched for a future political career, image his dismay that when he got home the war had turned unpopular. So he now becomes a protester because that is what it took to be popular back then.

45 posted on 02/11/2004 7:41:40 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: zygoat
Isn't it convenient that he recommended himself for the decorations...

Can we get supporting documentation of this?

And if we can, we should HOLD all further JFK disclosures until AFTER he is selected as the dem candidate>

46 posted on 02/11/2004 7:44:27 PM PST by There's millions of'em (John F. Kerry: a decorated VN war criminal.....)
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for posting.

I would love to hear Kerry answer some of these questions. I won't hold my breath.
47 posted on 02/11/2004 7:52:27 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: SAMWolf
New Hampshire Flag - "Live Free Or Die"Sam, I am ever more convinced that it was his way of blame-shifting for the atrocities he, himself, admits to committing. I came home from Vietnam with a clear conscience; something I don't think is true of J F'in K. In my tour, I never saw any of the things that Kerry claims were "commonplace". What I saw was mostly a bunch of guys doing the best to do their lawful duty under very trying circumstances, which were only made more difficult by the likes of Hanoi Jane and Hanoi John. I attend a reunion every year of the men who served in my wing with me and I don't think any of them feels much different than I do. We are proud of our service and with good reason; we served with honor.
48 posted on 02/11/2004 7:57:56 PM PST by Old Airplane Driver (Live Free or Die)
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We are proud of our service and with good reason; we served with honor.

Thanks for your service.

49 posted on 02/11/2004 8:00:13 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf; counterpunch; Ben Hecks; Williams; xkaydet65; radu; snippy_about_it; Howlin; deport; ...

Kerry Key to My Victory!

50 posted on 02/11/2004 9:15:38 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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