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FAKE "2nd photo" of Kerry-Fonda at rally
Vanity | Feb. 11, 2002 | Self

Posted on 02/12/2004 2:47:30 PM PST by Madstrider

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To: Hon
Do you really think the real Fonda/Kerry picture was going to change a single vote? Did you think the mainstream media was going to pay it any attention at all?

We could hold the election today and the results would be the same as they're going to be in November, barring some REAL event like another 9/11. None of this piddly little Old News is going to change a thing.
341 posted on 02/15/2004 4:47:02 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Triple Word Score; Registered
The hoax also proved that Newsmax doesn't do their own work, if they were legit they would have verified the photo before going off half cocked with their non-exclusive exclusive.

And for that I am grateful to Registered.
342 posted on 02/15/2004 4:47:45 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Hey Botox Boy, why the long face?)
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To: Hon
Re #338: did you make that PayPal account, or did Registered?

this is a serious question, btw.
343 posted on 02/15/2004 4:48:58 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Take back the First Amendment! Call today! U.S. Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
That's a great point! Media dishonesty and laziness needs to be exposed at every possible opportunity. The fourth estate must never be allowed to sit on a pedestal of omniscience.
344 posted on 02/15/2004 4:49:26 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Re: your recent post.. so true. please see my post located approximately two posts above your post... ;)

Whatevahhhhh... as a very nice lady in the South I knew used to say. :)

345 posted on 02/15/2004 4:50:34 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Take back the First Amendment! Call today! U.S. Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121)
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To: proud American in Canada
I agree in general with your post. I would just make a couple of points.

One, Newsmax wasn't the only outfit taken in by it. A couple of other media outlets almost ran with it, but were caught in time--by Kristinn and a few other people, including my own humble self.

Secondly, in the future, not only will Newsmax shy away from trusting anything posted on FR (or anywhere else on the internet) but so will any other media outlet.

It was a major shot in the foot.

And that would have been bad enough, if it had all been done accidentally. But it wasn't. There is every indication that Registered meant the media to be taken in by this.

If so, that was a MAJOR miscalculation on his part. And he setback this site and the rest of the internet, as being considered as any kind of a trustworthy source for material.
346 posted on 02/15/2004 4:51:41 PM PST by Hon
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To: proud American in Canada
I was writing my post as you were writing yours. Looks like we had the same vibe.
347 posted on 02/15/2004 4:52:05 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Hey Botox Boy, why the long face?)
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To: proud American in Canada
I guess you didn't see the link below the pay pal image. It is from Registered profile page.
348 posted on 02/15/2004 4:52:32 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
But the internet is NOT a trustworthy source. The media shouldn't use it as one. They should ALWAYS double-check, especially photographs. The things that can be done now with Photoshop are dazzling. Registered is very good, and he isn't even the best.

News often breaks here...but it can't be depended on. Not by commercial outfits that make money selling reliable information.
349 posted on 02/15/2004 4:54:30 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Hon; Hillary's Lovely Legs
"And he setback this site and the rest of the internet, as being considered as any kind of a trustworthy source for material."

True enough... but a major news source should never look at the Internet as "trustworthy," only as a fruitful source of information. Then they need to go and do their job.

HLL, yes, we were thinking along the same lines. I'm glad and actually very proud when major news organizations get info from Freepers... but then they need to check it out.

So, please excuse the fact that I answered to both of you in one post; I have to log off now.... but boy, this has been a VERY interesting weekend from a freeper standpoint.

If we listened to the major news media in the U.S.--nothing! That's why the Internet is so great--tons of interesting stuff in the past few days. :)
350 posted on 02/15/2004 4:58:05 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Take back the First Amendment! Call today! U.S. Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121)
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To: Triple Word Score
Fine. If that's the way you want it. But I am of the Matt Drudge school, who would like to see everyone with an internet connection become a reporter.

You do realize that without the posts we made here, the Jane Fonda - John Kerry nexus might not yet have gotten any reportage.

John Kerry At Valley Forge (With Jane Fonda)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074369/posts

This faked photo helped to put the kibosh on that story, just when it was picking up steam.
351 posted on 02/15/2004 4:58:52 PM PST by Hon
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To: Spiff; All
All I know on this entire sordid mess was that I was on the thread when the bogus picture was initially posted. No attempt was made to come clean that it was a fake, but it was exposed by another FReeper shortly after.

My concern is, I received a very disturbing email about the situation, sent to my personal account. The sender did not have the guts to sign their name.

So, if anyone knows who this email address belongs to, please respond and let me know. I would like to know who I'm dealing with here.

styersc@earthlink.net

Thank you.
352 posted on 02/15/2004 4:59:54 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: Hon
"I guess you didn't see the link below the pay pal image. It is from Registered profile page."

Oh... I saw the link and went there, but didn't see the pay pal link on Registered's site.

This is probably because my husband wants the computer and I can't focus... :)

You're right, it doesn't look good, to want payment.

On the other hand, that may be how he makes his living. I don't know.

However, I don't think it changes my argument regarding Newsmax's (or other news organizations') responsibility to check the facts even though they want to be first with a "scoop."
353 posted on 02/15/2004 5:01:40 PM PST by proud American in Canada (Take back the First Amendment! Call today! U.S. Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121)
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To: LisaMalia
That is none other than the loveable crackpot, Ken Styer.

He is the guy who Jim Rob reported to his boss, and who got fired for threatening him via email:

Ken Styer, styersc@earthlink.net

http://www.unitedcitizensparty.org/articleList.php?c=77
354 posted on 02/15/2004 5:03:16 PM PST by Hon
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To: LisaMalia
Reaad all about it here:

Liberal Disruptor On FR Loses Job (My Title)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/306671/posts
355 posted on 02/15/2004 5:05:19 PM PST by Hon
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To: LisaMalia
Mercy!

That's stepping way over the line. I hope you have more personal information better-protected than your email. It's scary when an internet weirdo focuses on you.
356 posted on 02/15/2004 5:06:00 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Triple Word Score
Here's an email Styer sent to Jim Robinson (I hope you won't mind my re-posting it, since JimRob did):

Subject: Beaten again
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:08:22 -0400
From: "Styer, Ken" (StyerKF@dot.state.sc.us)
To: "'jimrob@psnw.com'"

Had a blast kicking your ignorant white trash ass around you
feeble excuse for a forum. Your mindless followers have once again
proven to be no match for an
intellectual so I have been banned in yet another disguise.

See you again real soon (a hint- I'll use the name of a famous GOP for
my next mission) to show you and your buddies to be the impotent morons that you are-
placed on earth to entertain thinking people as you twist in your
stupidity.

Hope the lawsuit is atleast delayed through the election- I
have a lot more work to do revealing you and your mind numb idiots to
the nation.

A happy to serve the country, DNC disruptor-
Styerkf aka rarely_2001
357 posted on 02/15/2004 5:08:32 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
Thanks for the information.
358 posted on 02/15/2004 5:09:38 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: Hon
What a creep Styer is. Now here's something we agree on, "bigtime."
359 posted on 02/15/2004 5:12:21 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Hon
We do have a policy against people posting Freepmails without the permission of the author. It is our experience that when that happens, it inevitably leads to a flame war or the escalation of a flame war. So please avoid doing so in the future. You can paraphrase, you can quote portions of it. For example, your post 304 is fine.

Thanks, LM

360 posted on 02/16/2004 5:50:41 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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