FAKE "2nd photo" of Kerry-Fonda at rally

Vanity | Feb. 11, 2002 | Self

[Madstrider]

Hey, Freepers: I don't know who PhotoShopped that fake "2nd photo" of Kerry and Fonda at the antiwar rally, but you should know that you came within AN EYELASH of causing a huge embarassment.

Thank goodness Raoul made a phone call, so Kristinn just got a call from somebody who is a longtime press friend of FR who was about to go nationwide with the "2nd photo" story. You've got no idea how close this was to being a train wreck.

I am told NewsMax actually got suckered on this.

The same veterans who had circulated the original Fonda-Kerry photo apparently got hold of the PhotoShop fake and didn't know it was a joke. So when these veterans contacted the press Thursday morning claiming to have a second photo -- man! A lot of valuable time was wasted as reporters contacted Associated Press trying to verify the existence of this fake photo.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful with this kind of stuff.

[Sloth]

Soon, photographic evidence of anything will become worthless. And after that, video.

[leadpenny]

I'm catching up for the day. You referred to two FReepers. Did you mean the ones I addressed?

Which photo is fake and which is real?

[alisasny]

This is how we are going to ruin these stories about Kerry. Sometimes its best to sit back and let it happen on its own.
It is clear the democratic party is emploding and they dont need much help from us right now.

If this would have happened the left media would have been able to say the radical right is not credible etc.

Example: instead of letting CBS air the Reagan movie a controversy was started by the right and CBS dropped the movie and we are accused of censorship. Had the movie aired as planned CBS would have finally been exposed to a massive audience for its bias.

You may not agree with me but there is a reason the VRWC is believed by many.

[Dog]

Kerry standing next to Fonda on stage.......it is a Registered photo......we discussed and debated it on another thread last evening.

[leadpenny]

Would someone kindly bring me up to date?

[John H K]

I'm a bit confused, which Kerry-Fonda photo is fake, and which one is real?

The one where you can only see part of Fonda's body and not her face and it's black and white is "real" and the one with Fonda sitting down looking up with Kerry in the background is fake?

[Vermonter]

Ping!

[MarkeyD]

What does 'Registered' mean? Another thread shows the two photos from which the composite was made.

[leadpenny]

Thanks. Do you mean that Black and White with Kerry behind the commie traitor bee I itch?

[LisaMalia]

It was established by a couple of sharp FReepers on a thread last evening that the 2nd pic was a fraud. Someone's idea of a joke(?) I guess. IMO, save the Photoshop stuff for humor threads, or identify it as such.

[Dog]

No......the photo of Fonda looking up and Ketchup Boy in the background is REAL. All others are fake.......SO FAR.

[Jaxter]

The fake pic showed Kerry on stage with Fonda. It was on Newsmax earlier today but it's gone now.

[holymoly]

Where's this photo? And who posted it? Moby?

[PetroniusMaximus]

No excuse here, but anyone in publishing should have spotted the fake immediately.

[John H K]

"registered" is a username.

I've read the relevant threads just now and I'm deeply, deeply confused about the whole thing. There are no actual links to the fake pic, I think, unless the sitting down at the rally pic is the fake one. (which I guess it isn't.)

There ALSO is a fake pic of Kerry in front of a North Vietnamese flag. People have been using it as if it were real; Vietnam Vets against Kerry or whatever created it and have a link explaining they made it and it's not "real", but it's still an UNBELIEVABLY dumb thing to do.

[xJones]

Thank goodness Raoul made a phone call, so Kristinn just got a call from somebody who is a longtime press friend of FR

Good work, you guys.

[Admin Moderator]

NO!

The color photo of Fonda in the foreground and JFK way in the background with his head above hers is REAL

The one that looks like a newspaper clipping with Fonda at the microphone and Kerry holding papers is a Photoshop composite and is FAKE Spread the word!

[leadpenny]

SO FAR.

thanks again

[Neets]

WHO is Registered...not What is Registered.

look him up.

[John H K]

Ok, I didn't even find out about the whole thing till an hour ago, and the sitting at a rally pic was the only one I could find at Newsmax.

[Dog]

That one is is a fake I believe.....

Fonda sitting at a rally and Kerry sitting back in the crowd behind her is the only real one to have surfaced to date.

[John H K]

No excuse here, but anyone in publishing should have spotted the fake immediately.

Eh, no surprise, while not as bad as DUMBKA, Newsmax (and World Net Daily as well) are pretty crappy and lame and get way too much respect around here.

[GulliverSwift]

Hint, this is fake:

[WOSG]

Right. You cant overstate the case, or the press will nail the exaggeration as "unfounded rumors". Then they can bury the truth, which is bad enough.

Now there was a *real* photo of Kerry with Hubbard and Ramsey Clark and Fonda (obscured) on a stage. a B &W. To me, that was the most representative one that picturized his anti-war involvement... but his Congressional testimony is damning enough.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074196/posts

[leadpenny]

Good. At least we know The Washington Time printed the correct one yesterday.

[Jim Robinson]

Great likeness though.

[Congressman Billybob]

Please be specific. I have seen three photographs here. One is Kerry and Fonda sitting in the audience at the Valley Forge Rally for Vietnam Veterans Against the War. This one is apparently legit. The second is one that was created, with usual excellence, by Registered. This one bears his name, and was credited to him on FR.

The third photograph I have seen shows Fonda at the microphone at that same Rally, and Kerry in the nearground holding a sheaf of papers, apparently either about to speak next or having just spoken. No one else appears in that photograph. This one I had speculated should exist in the morgue of a paper in the metro-Philly area, or in the files of the photographers who covered that Rally.

Since Fonda provided heavy financing for the Valley Forge Rally, the previous Detroit "testimony" from "claimed" Vietnam vets, and the movie, F.T.A., and Kerry was head of VVAW, it is hard to believe that they were not together at some point either when the money changed hands, or speeches were being made. So a photo like that should exist.

So, which is the apparent "fake photo" you're referring to? Is it the one that Registered created, and clearly labeled as his creation? Or is it that third photo, showing Fonda and Kerry on the stage together in Valley Forge? For those of us who have been following this subject closely, pkease state which you mean.

Congressman Billybob

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[Fenris6]

Also be advised that DNC pigs will play the Soviet gambit -planting false-proofs of actual events. Some sucker runs with it, gets discredited, so when the REAL proof turns up they claim "just another fake, like last time".

[Flyer]

I don't know if anyone else did, too, but I let NewsMax know of the fake, and it was down within minutes of my email.

[TAP ONLINE]

I saw the Post: Hanoi Jane on Paul Zahn Now!
It had a fake picture. I smelled a rat. I book marked and when I went back it was gone. Fine with me it should have been deleted if it was false. However, what concerns me is the fact that it (Post number 44) was not purged or replaced with "deleted by moderator". Instead it was replaced with another picture (a fine photo of Ted) and numbered 44, as if the first picture was never there. I wrote a reply that the thing smelled like a scene from 1984.
Is it a policy of FR to replace posts already posted with more acceptable ones or was this an aberration? It looked like a cover up and that makes us look worse than the post itself. Delete it, ban it but do not pretend it never existed.

Not aimed at you,Madstrider

[GulliverSwift]

Is this the NewsMax pic? This is still on their server:

[Howlin]

NewsMax grabbed the first one off this very site and claimed it as their own, without crediting FR for having found it in the first place.

[New Girl]

Thank you for posting this thread.

I was almost part of the news scandal you mentioned above because I shared the photo with ONE PERSON and it was traced back to me. I thought the photo was real!

You'd have to be crazy to doctor a photo and leave "AP" on the photo as the source.

People need to be more responsible. It's one thing if the photo is obviously a joke but this one looked authentic. Apparently, it fooled a lot of folks. This will not earn the conservative cause any points...

[GulliverSwift]

Because their budget is probably the same as the average Freeper's.

[Flyer]

Is this the NewsMax pic?

No, it was the black & white "AP" photo that looked like a newspaper clipping. I hesitate to repost it because it would just further its dissemination.

[Admin Moderator]

At some point last night, Registered changed the picture on HIS server that was being referenced by threads on FR. That was the one you saw of Kennedy at Hooters. Don't know if it's still up or not

[GulliverSwift]

It's much, much easier to fake black and white pictures.

[TheBigB]

Yes,exactly!

[Howlin]

And we ALWAYS give credit where credit is due. Too much to ask, I suppose.

[Ditter]

I think the fake pic is Kerry & Fonda standing together on a stage.

[Flyer]

That one, in #34.

[reagan_fanatic]

This is more entertaining than a good movie and a bucket of popcorn.

[TaxRelief]

So why didn't anyone care when all those Rachel Corrie/ Bulldozer photos were faked?

[Spiff]

Registered made it. He admitted to it. He did it intentionally. He knew of the potential embarassment. He didn't seem to care.

I like most of what Registered does (well, except for the anti-McClintock stuff he did) but I'm disappointed in this behavior as it was potentially very damaging to Free Republic, to the GOP, and to President Bush's campaign.

I did my best yesterday afternoon/evening to get the word out that the pic was fake. Finally, the Admin Moderator jumped in and started deleting posts containing the fake photo and then Registered (for the second time) changed the photo that the link pointed to.

I've now seen the photo posted on two different websites as authentic (one added a "Fake Photo" qualifier later) and I heard that NewsMax published the fake photo as authentic and later pulled it.

I think Registered owes FreeRepublic an apology and needs to promise not to pull this crap again.

[GulliverSwift]

Good. I value the picture with his hands behind his head.

[Britton J Wingfield]

Flooding the internet with fake photos would be a great way to discredit the real one. I hope that people can restrain themselves.

[Spiff]

Oh, and credit SamWolfe with discovering the source photos on Corbis that Registered used. If he hadn't found those we might still be wondering if Registered's pic was real or not.