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john Kerry: A Call To Service Excerpt (on being a practicing Catholic)
Catholics For Kerry Yahoo! Group ^ | John Kerry

Posted on 02/13/2004 8:53:08 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John

" Anticipating my candidacy, the Boston Globe looked into my family history… the paper discovered that one hundred years ago, my paternal grandfather was an Austrian Jew named Fritz Kohn, who changed his name to Kerry and converted to Catholicism shortly before immigrating to Massachusetts. I didn't know this because my grandfather died when my father was just five years old...

One thing that hasn't changed for me as a result of this revelation is my Catholic heritage. I am a believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic. And being an American Catholic at this particular moment in history has three particular implications for my own point of view as a candidate for presidency.

The first two follow directly from the two great commandments set forth in the Scriptures: our obligations to love God with all our hearts, souls, and minds and to love our neighbors as ourselves. The first commandment means we must believe that there are absolute standards of right and wrong. They may not always be that clear, but they exist, and it is our duty ti honor them as best we can.

The second commandment means that our commitment to equal rights and social justice, here and around the world, is not simply a matter of political fashion or economic and social theory but a direct command from God…Christian bigotry and intolerance are nothing less than a direct affront to God's law and a rejection of God's love.

There is a third facet of being an American Catholic. To a larger extent than Catholics elsewhere, we have supported and relied upon the constitutional principle of the separation of church and state to guarantee our right to worship and our liberty of conscience. That tradition, strongly advanced by John F. Kennedy in his quest to become our first Catholic president, helped make religious affiliation a nonissue in American politics. It should stay that way." John Kerry, A Call to Service, pp. 23-4.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; catholicchurch; catholicpoliticians; catholics; johnkerry; kerry
This from the guy who tried to annul his first marriage (which produced two kids). Oh, and a bunch of other stuff...
1 posted on 02/13/2004 8:53:09 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Real Catholics are not backers of partial birth abortion. PERIOD.
2 posted on 02/13/2004 8:54:13 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Redneck rock and roll son of Detroit")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
He votes to keep killing viable children legal if the mother wants to do it. I don't care what his supposed religion is, he may as well be a Satanist.
3 posted on 02/13/2004 8:54:24 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Wow- I thought Kerry was a Scotch Irish protestant and I am from Mass.
4 posted on 02/13/2004 8:57:17 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
I thought kerry was party Jewish? But not part catholic.

Does anyone know what the deal is? Just want to know.
5 posted on 02/13/2004 9:02:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Kerry is about as Catholic as he is Irish.
6 posted on 02/13/2004 9:03:53 PM PST by Hon
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Does Kerry have an original thought.. or does he really think he's JFK.. someone needs to do an expose on the attempts at similarities.. hmmmm


7 posted on 02/13/2004 9:05:34 PM PST by wadeintothem (Hanoi John says "please dont visit - NoJohnKerry.org")
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To: longtermmemmory
Kerry is a made up name. His grandfather's name was Kohn and he and his wife were Jewish. They came to this country from Czechoslovakia. They supposedly converted to Catholicism.

Kerry has pretended to be Irish to get votes. He has even made speeches about being Irish. He will lie about anything. He is a fraud.
8 posted on 02/13/2004 9:07:08 PM PST by Hon
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
To a larger extent than Catholics elsewhere, we have supported and relied upon the constitutional principle of the separation of church and state to guarantee our right to worship and our liberty of conscience.

Hold on a minute, isn't this the same Kerry who said that the separation of church and state meant that religious beliefs should not serve to instruct a politician? It seems to me that he meant he would be instructed by those beliefs that make good politics and disregard the rest.

9 posted on 02/13/2004 9:08:16 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Hon
So he is of Czechoslavakian of Jewish parents.

Then as an adult, for whatever reason, kerry has converted to Irish and practices kennedy catholicism.
10 posted on 02/13/2004 9:18:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: xsmommy; dubyaismypresident
Today he's a Catholic. Who knows what he'll be tomorrow?
11 posted on 02/13/2004 9:21:56 PM PST by secret garden (Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Too bad he doesn't practice the 7th amendment: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
12 posted on 02/13/2004 9:22:59 PM PST by mass55th
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To: mass55th
not? NOT? are you sure that's not a typo? (/s)
13 posted on 02/13/2004 9:31:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Kerry is a lying, smarmy practicing Catholic.
14 posted on 02/13/2004 9:45:09 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: longtermmemmory
Kerry's Ten Commandments

1. I am a Gigolo. Thou shalt not have any other Gigolo before ye.

2. Thou shalt not use my name without first donating large sums of money to my Presidential campaign fund.

3. Thou shalt emulate my greatness in all you say and do. But remember, under penalty of death, there is only room for one JFK in this universe.

4. Remember my birthday, and always keep it. My gift registries are at Tiffany's, Sach's 5th Avenue and Bloomingdale's, New York.

5. Honor my Vietnam War service and my medals. But ignore my anti-war activites and my affiliation with one Hanoi Jane.

6. Thou shalt kill all Republicans and unborn babies. Thou shalt not kill murderers, rapists and child molesters.

7. Thou shalt commit adultry and when you get tired of your wife and children, disavow your marriage and seek annulment to erase any record of its existence.Then become a kept man by marrying a rich widow

8. Thou shalt not steal from me, but I can steal from you.

9. Thou shalt bear false witness against all Republicans, no matter what.

10. Thou may covet my wife, but not my house, my servant or any other damn thing I own. In fact, what's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine.

So be it!!

15 posted on 02/13/2004 10:04:11 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; ...
I am a believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic.

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.
Catechism Catholic Church

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


16 posted on 02/13/2004 10:13:28 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
An annulment does not make the children illegitimate.
17 posted on 02/13/2004 10:21:44 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dan from Michigan
**Real Catholics are not backers of partial birth abortion. PERIOD.**

You are correct, sir! Or any kind of abortion, euthenasia, etc.
18 posted on 02/13/2004 10:22:43 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: longtermmemmory; Hon
John Kerry is what we Catholics call
CINO
Catholic in Name Only.

See the links below.
19 posted on 02/13/2004 10:23:56 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Hon
As someone with a little bit of Czech blood and a lot of Irish blood, I have to correct this. I'm fairly certain his dad's side is Austrian.
20 posted on 02/13/2004 10:26:31 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Redneck rock and roll son of Detroit")
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To: Hon
The Deadly Dozen

Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION
Massachusetts Democrats Back Gay Marriage Edict
Archbishop Would Refuse Communion To John Kerry
Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order
Kerry dodges constitutional ban question (Gay Marriage)
Kerry Signed Letter Endorsing Homosexual Marriage

Kerry Signed Letter Backing Gay Marriage
John Kerry: A Call To Service Excerpt (on being a practicing Catholic)

21 posted on 02/13/2004 10:34:06 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Hon
"Kerry is about as Catholic as he is Irish."... Slainte! ROFLMAO
22 posted on 02/13/2004 10:35:40 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: Salvation
John Kerry is what we Catholics call
CINO Catholic in Name Only.


AKA: Cafeteria Catholic (one from column A...none from column b....)
23 posted on 02/13/2004 10:41:27 PM PST by BansheeBill
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Pro-life bump
24 posted on 02/13/2004 10:44:56 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
This from the guy who tried to annul his first marriage (which produced two kids).

Couple of questions:
-- Did he get the married annulled? (Or is he "just" divorced?)
-- On what grounds did get, or try to get, the marriage annulled?
-- Why did he insist on an annulment, as opposed to "just" a divorce? Was he planing on marrying another Catholic?
-- Also, I've heard that it was his wife, sick of his infidelities,that started to ball rolling. Is this true or was he the first one to contact the lawyer?

25 posted on 02/13/2004 10:51:49 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Dan from Michigan
Kerry can take some lines from Geraldine Ferraro's book, when it comes to religious matters:

Kerry on abortion: "I would never have an abortion myself (I'm Catholic!), but why should I deny others the right to kill their unborn children?"

Kerry on gay marriage: I do not support marriage for homosexual priests. It's a deeply-held religious issue for me. If I have to quit my job over this, so be it!

26 posted on 02/13/2004 10:54:09 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: NYer
the paper discovered that one hundred years ago, my paternal grandfather was an Austrian Jew named Fritz Kohn, who changed his name to Kerry and converted to Catholicism shortly before immigrating to Massachusetts.

Kerry is no more a Catholic than I am a Jew, and he's no more a Jew than I am a Muslim.

So, what's his name again? Ah yes, John Kohn. Hmmm, Con John for short.

27 posted on 02/13/2004 10:59:08 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: mass55th
Is Kerry going to have a Gray davis stylo of Toll Booth legislation. If your group did not donate at least 50k you don't even get in the door.
28 posted on 02/13/2004 11:46:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Is Kerry going to have a Gray davis style of Toll Booth legislation. If your group did not donate at least 50k you don't even get in the door."

Perhaps this: If you have a nuisance fire hydrant in front of your house that interferes with your parking, by donating 50k, they'll arrange to have it moved for you.

29 posted on 02/13/2004 11:57:21 PM PST by mass55th
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To: NYer; Aquinasfan
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life. Catechism Catholic Church

You know...Catholicism is not some secretive cult which has secret teachings. The teachings of the Church are in the public record. John Kerry has not merely dissented from Church teaching privately as part of some private opinion. He has done so publicly, aggressively, and with brazen arrogance. He must, therefore, be admonished publicly and directly by his bishop. Since Kerry is from Massachusetts and has promoted the culture of death in Washington, it is the solemn duty of Archbishop O'Malley and Cardinal McCarrick to admonish Kerry for his grotesque errors and disobedience. As long as Kerry seeks to promote the culture of death in public and to lead others into scandal and grave mortal sin, O'Malley and McCarrick have the duty to seek sanctions against Kerry and inform him publicly that he is not a Catholic in good standing as long as he persists in his demented and deranged ideological crusade on behalf of the culture of death.

If these bishops fail to do so, the blood of innocents slaughtered under a Kerry regime and a Kerry Supreme Court will be on their hands. God help them.

30 posted on 02/14/2004 4:24:01 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
If these bishops fail to do so, the blood of innocents slaughtered under a Kerry regime and a Kerry Supreme Court will be on their hands. God help them.

I have to agree. I don't see any way around it.

31 posted on 02/15/2004 7:47:02 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
I am a believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic.

With all due respect, Mr. Kerry, cut the crap.

32 posted on 02/15/2004 7:53:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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