Campaign 2004: Kerry's anti-war record attacked

Post-Gazetter ^ | Feb. 13, 2004 | Ann McFeatters

[concerned about politics]

Kerry betrayed his country by giving aid and comfort to the N. Vietnamese enemy with his protests, he is not much different from Benedict Arnold, why is he still considered a hero?

GOOD POINT!! DAMN GOOD POINT!

[FairOpinion]

but he organized the Vietnam Veterans Against the War,


And Hanoi Jane funded it.

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Exactly. There must be more genuine pictures around, I hope some people will unearth them.

[concerned about politics]

Exactly. There must be more genuine pictures around, I hope some people will unearth them.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear the Vietnam Vets Against Kerry are working on that. If they already have them, they're waiting to see if he wins.

[bigghurtt]

it's a fake (made by a freeper nonetheless) and if you want I can dig up the originals from whence it came.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

Great photo of Scary Kerry under arrest.

Kerry, as a lieutenant, captained a Navy swift boat in Vietnam's Mekong Delta. He was wounded three times and for his service was awarded the Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat "V" (for valor), three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals and the Combat Action Ribbon.

While I appreciate the treasonous Scary Kerry's military service, despite it's very short duration, I have to say that I suspect his plethora of medals has a lot to do with the Navy wanting desperately to decorate as many non-aviator squids as they possibly justify during the conflict. Other than the aviators, most squids didn't experience any up-close combat.

[kcvl]

This is EXACTLY the same thing the mainstream media did for BILL CLINTON when he started running for President. They didn't print ANYTHING negative about him but they sure did about Bush 41'. I hate them all!!!

They gave us BILL CLINTON, the DRAFT DODGER and they are trying to GIVE US, John Kerry, "the war hero". It is NOT going to work again!

Since that time, we have FreeRepublic, Fox News, Drudge, Rush, Hannity, etc. The mainstream media is irrelevant! Too bad they don't know it.

[IrishRainy]

They even dug out Bush's taffic tickets from 30 years ago -- apparently they consider that important, but Kerry protesting and giving aid and comfort to the enemy is not important.

Man, I wish I would have known about those tickets before I voted for him. Now I'm not so sure I did the right thing.

I mean, he has handled the country well since 9/11 and all, but just the same, because of those tickets, now I have my doubts about his leadership ability.

/sarcasm

[thesummerwind]

Interesting that this author , who seems to disapprove of the GOP counter-offensive, would identify McCain (who is cool to the anti-Kerry op) as a Vietnam war POW, but not identify Sam Johnson (who is gung ho anti-Kerry, as he should be) as a Vietnam War POW.

Excellent point.

The bias of the mainstream media is staggering. I think many millions have open eyes and are positively enraged by the media's blatant partisanship.

Many millions do have "open eyes and are positively enraged by the media's blatant partisanship", but not nearly enough. There are at least 10 times more who haven't a clue. The mainstream media rules, and winning this election looks to me to be very difficult.

It's going to take all of us doing neighborhood, grass roots work before the election to defeat the continual distortions of the media.

The mainstream media will not educate the great majority of Americans on the truth of the two candidates. It has to be done by each one of us, there are not nearly enough "open eyes" yet.

[torchthemummy]

"After becoming active in the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, he threw some of his own ribbons, as well as those given him by other disgruntled veterans..."

Notice the revision to attempt to soften the facts - point out first his clarification that he threw his ribbons over the fence while ignoring his original claim that he had thrown his own medals. Of course he didn't but this is a new way for the media to sidestep the truth.

[FairOpinion]

I think we should look at the differences in their CURRENT positions towards national security. This sums it up.

[MEG33]

It's swiping the wreath.Really a disqualifying thing if ever I saw one....;)

[revtown]

I've thought of the Benidict Arnold analogy also.
J Fonda Kerry is so gun shy from his Vietnam experience he can NOT be elected president.

He doesn't want a strong military or CIA. Wants to turn the decision to deploy US troops over to the UN. Wants to make the war on Terror a criminal matter, like Clinton did.

[samtheman]

They even dug out Bush's taffic tickets from 30 years ago -- apparently they consider that important, but Kerry protesting and giving aid and comfort to the enemy is not important.

That's what the internet is for. Correcting such abuses.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The bias of the mainstream media is staggering.

Staggering and unending. Notice we never read: "Bush Service Attacked by the DNC .

[Right_in_Virginia]

Also, every since he's been in the Senate, he voted against every weapons system, which helps the US be safe, he wanted to dismantle the CIA, and wants to put the UN in charge, selling out the sovereignity of the US.

Great points...repeat often.

How can he still be considered a hero?

Great question...repeat often.

[Condor51]

"for his service was awarded the Silver Star, the Bronze Star with Combat "V" (for valor), three Purple Hearts, the Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism, the Vietnam Service Medal, three Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medals and the Combat Action Ribbon.

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Ok Freepers count the above medals.. what do you get? That's right -- SEVEN! But Lt. Kerry is ALWAYS shown wearing ELEVEN (NOTE: with multiple awards of the same medal you add devices, like stars or oak/silver leaf clusters)

Now I've been also able to identify that he wears a Pistol & Rifleman Marksman's ribbon AND THAT'S OK! So this brings his total to NINE.

Also, the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal noted above IS NOT a medal issued by the US military and I quote: c. Since the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal is a foreign award, it is not issued by the United States Government. The medal may be purchased from commercial sources. Kerry wears his 'lower right', which also is ok.

Now if you note from the article, there is no mention of any medal and or award issued to Lt. Kerry between the Presidential Unit Citation and his Vietnam Service Medal -- HOWEVER he's always showed wearing two additional medals here?!?!? And I can't identify what they are. The pics are always so small that they're indistinguishable. And according to the Navy Medal Order of precedence, the only awards/medals that could fill in this blank would be is a Navy Unit Commendation and the Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation.

But here's two more 'BUTS'.
1) The Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation is awarded by the Secretary to any unit of the Navy or Marine Corps which has distinguished itself under combat or noncombat conditions, by either valorous or meritorious achievement compared to other units performing similar service, but not sufficient to justify the award of the Navy Unit Commendation. AND
2) The Navy Unit Commendation is awarded by the Secretary to any ship, aircraft, detachment, or other unit of the naval service of the United States Navy which has, subsequent to 6 December 1941, distinguished itself by outstanding heroism in action against the enemy, but not sufficient to justify award of the Presidential Unit Citation.

Now if Lt. Kerry ALSO won these other Commendations, prior to getting a PUC, why aren't they mentioned. Something seems fishy and doesn't pass the smell test. If 'facetime' Kerry received additional medals for his, ahem, heroism, you KNOW they'd be printed everywhere.

If anyone can positively ID these mystery medals it would be great.

[FairOpinion]

You are making excellent points.

The best I can come up with, is that perhaps the other medals/ribbons, whatever are of lesser importance, than the purple hears, Bronze & Silver Star and that's why they don't get mentioned.

Obviously you are an expert at this, but I read that you got some things almost just for showing up, so while he may wear them, you point out the most important once, not list every one.

However, I would like to see more detail about Kerry's service record and all the detail about just exactly why he got his various medals ( which should include the entire list), then we could see what else he has.

Didn't the media hound and Admiral or General about whether he was entitled to wear some medal, which ultimately turned out, he was indeed entitled to wear, but in the meantime they pushed him into suicide, I forgot the name, maybe you remember?

I searched and was able to find it, it was Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda.

[faithincowboys]

Excellent point, even when the DNC is plainly attaking him. Meanwhile, when another Democrat is plainly attacking Kerry
they blame the GOP. The only good thing is that many Americans are seeing it and getting very angry about it.

[Terry Mross]

So now he only threw "some" (not all) of his "ribbons" (not medals) over the fence. That makes sense. You can buy ribbons at any PX.

[Condor51]

Yes, that Admiral committed suicide because he was found wearing as I recall a 'NAVY E' ribbon which he wasn't authorized to wear.

As to Lt. Kerry's medals, the thing is that there is a precise order that they are to be worn - period. That's why for instance his pistol & rifle medals are on the bottom row - right where they're supposed to be. And until that jerk Terry McAwful started with the 'chest full of medals' & hero cr@p and saying Bush was AWOL, I didn't give it much thought. Then with Kerry's info coming out about his 'two tours' and seeing all his pics plastered all over, I'm going wait a minute, what the hell are those two medals after the Presidential Unit Citation?!?

And if they're for meritorious service (again I can't tell) - that he isn't/wasn't authorized to wear, well it's more proof of what a phony he is and could do him in for good.

So yes, Kerry's Navy records need to be released.