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To: ml/nj; Clemenza; PARodrig; rmlew; nutmeg; firebrand
The huge problem is that the left does not see a civilizational distinction, thus they are promoters of cultural relativism and multiculturalism(no culture is superior in their view, all cultures are equal). Dedicated to the Gramscian concept that in order for the new socialist order to succeed we must destroy the present order. To that end they will invite any and all groups congruent to that end, including the Muslims.

Their illusion as it has been of all elites is that they will be in charge of the new world order rather than it's victims.

That is the mistake that elites have always made throughout history and they will end UPI destroying western civilization and be the first victims of those that will replace us.

The great clash will not be between the west and islam. This is a sideshow, the west is already finished a victim of it's own decadence and nihilistic traits. The real clash will be between China and Islam to rule the world.

The Muslims discovered long ago, that the real weapon of mass destruction is the womb. The will simply populate the world without firing a shot. They are colonizing us and infecting our culture but our myopic leaders seem to view it as a military problem rather than a cultural one while they push for amnesty for the invaders and global free-trade and government.

We are living through the last days of our western culture. Rome too was a world power shortly before they were conquered from within.

14 posted on 02/14/2004 7:09:15 PM PST by Cacique
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To: Cacique
14 - Wow, you said a mouthful:

"The Muslims discovered long ago, that the real weapon of mass destruction is the womb. The will simply populate the world without firing a shot. They are colonizing us and infecting our culture but our myopic leaders seem to view it as a military problem rather than a cultural one while they push for amnesty for the invaders and global free-trade and government."
19 posted on 02/14/2004 7:20:10 PM PST by XBob
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they can keep breeding. Then lets send em back to their desert and use corn as our weapon like the way they use oil!!! Let Allah feed them!!!
23 posted on 02/14/2004 7:24:54 PM PST by Coroner
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To: Cacique
hello Cacique,

you ping center-mass on the central points (that too often are not referred to by many of us...): Gramsci - I wonder how many folks here on freep know of him?... demographic trends; elitist thought, etc...

It is the historical demographic explosion of muslim populations, augmented by our dangerously open borders, that concerns me most. There are currently something between 3 to 8 million muslims in our country, and a strong wahhabi influence/proselytization among our population.

Case in point: our prisons... most muslim converts in prison are black or hispanic, and the wahhabi virus targets these minds - already stunted by violence, drugs, hatred, and/or all other things that go into the making of a criminal - and paints itself as a religion for the colored peoples - Jose Padilla is the classic example. Then, it's but a simple and short step to play upon the racial tensions of the new convert, mix in a little revisionist history salted with 600 years of islamic decay and self-hatred of their cultural failure, and POOF!!! - out comes another brainwashed local kid ready to apply his (already criminally established...) knowledge of violence against the homeland.

A point to consider as we view the muslim intrusion into our own country: Historically, muslim minorities have remained quiet and under the radar until their numbers start approaching roughly 10 percent of the targetted population. This period of relative silence is what they use as proof when they spout their "Islam is peaceful/Jihad is spiritual" bullshit. As mentioned above, the muslim population sits at about 8 million, or roughly 3 percent of the US population. What appears to be different here is that - though it's a smaller percentage, activist noise is already coming out of this group. things like coalescing into a voting bloc (not surprisingly, targetting Bush for defeat); or the constant whining by self-anointed muslim interest groups such as CAIR in attacking all public figures that do not universally paint them in the best light. I've some thoughts on why, but haven't yet seen enough info and will reserve them for later. Still, I'm interested in your take on this.

I wouldn't count the West out yet, though, hermano guerrero... certainly not the United States, or some of the Eastern European Nations. But that is another topic.

Juan
CGVet58
45 posted on 02/15/2004 3:13:10 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe him courage in return)
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