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Dean to Advisers: 'We Are Not Bowing Out'
AP ^ | 2.15.04

Posted on 02/15/2004 3:32:35 PM PST by ambrose

Dean to Advisers: 'We Are Not Bowing Out' 23 minutes ago

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By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer

WASHINGTON - Howard Dean (news - web sites)'s top advisers are urging him to abandon the Democratic presidential race if he loses Wisconsin's primary, officials said Sunday, but the former Vermont governor asserted, "We are not bowing out."

Dean, winless in 16 contests and badly trailing in Wisconsin polls, said in an interview with The Associated Press, "In fact, we are staying in the race. The forum we will use to stay in the race remains to be seen. Period. Anybody who says anything to the contrary has misspoken."

But several of his top advisers said Sunday that Dean should cede the nomination if he loses Tuesday and consider several options, including dropping from the race outright, suspending his campaign or at least acknowledging Kerry's victory and redirecting his own efforts. They said the fallen front-runner was all but certain to effectively abandon his bid, one way or another.

Dean's own campaign chairman, Steve Grossman, said that if the former Vermont governor loses Tuesday's election Dean would seek to convert his grass-roots network into a movement that helps expand the party and elect the Democratic nominee.

"I have no doubt he'll support the nominee in any way he can, no matter who the nominee is and obviously that nominee looks to be John Kerry (news - web sites)," Grossman said in a telephone interview from Vermont. "He may say that Tuesday night. He may wait until Wednesday or Thursday to say that."

Several other senior campaign officials said Dean would likely bow to intense pressure from his own advisers to give up his quixotic bid for the presidency, though they disagreed with Grossman over how much ? if any ? direct help Dean would be willing to give Kerry.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Dean is torn between his pragmatic conclusion that the race is about over and his emotional attachment to the fight itself and his supporters.

For the first time, there is a near-unanimous consensus among advisers that it would be foolhardy for Dean to continue fighting for the nomination beyond Wisconsin. The circle of die-hards has shrunk, and most confidants are telling Dean it's time to find a way to convert his Internet-fueled network into a long-term political movement.

Polls show Kerry, a Massachusetts senator who has won 14 of 16 contests to date, holding a wide lead in Wisconsin, site of Tuesday's contest. The Democratic candidates were meeting in the state for a debate Sunday.

Campaign manager Roy Neel did not dispute the sources' assertions, but cautioned that Dean is still mulling his options should he lose Tuesday.

"Governor Dean is hearing from a lot of people now with advice from every imaginable direction, but in the end, he'll make this decision about the rest of his campaign based on a number of things, including how the debate goes tonight and the Wisconsin primary Tuesday night," Neel said.

Dean had told supporters via e-mail that a defeat Tuesday would end his bid for the nomination, but he has backed away from that statement in recent days.

Several top advisers said Dean has privately acknowledged that his prospects for the presidency will effectively end if he suffers another major defeat Tuesday. He seems to be looking for a forum ? something short of an all-out campaign ? in which he can retain a voice in the election-year process, they said.

Grossman, for one, said Dean would quit attacking Kerry.

"Should he not win Wisconsin, you will see a meaningful shift in rhetoric, a meaningful shift in tone and a meaningful shift in the time he spends" building his campaign base into a long-term movement, Grossman said.

"In what form that movement takes, I can't spell that out to you and I don't think Howard could right now, either," said Grossman, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee (news - web sites).

Other top advisers said they had doubts whether Dean would ever work directly on Kerry's behalf this year. They suggested the Grossman was trying to curry favor with Kerry.

Officials said they are discussing ways to use Dean's network to help elect Democrats to Congress, action that effectively, but not directly, support Kerry's agenda as president. Scores of campaigns aides were making plans to leave their jobs after Tuesday.

"This is a delicate balancing act that has to be struck for Howard Dean," Grossman said. "His supporters, they will not want him to give up and will want to carry out the cause. His name is on the ballot in many states whether he campaigns or is less engaged. The fact is Howard Dean will do everything possible to help the nominee. He will do nothing to undercut the nominee's success."

The advisers sought to square their perceptions with Dean's public remarks.

"When Howard Dean says he's not going to quit, what he means is the battle to restore democracy and citizen participation is long-term and he's not going to quit on that battle," Grossman said.


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1 posted on 02/15/2004 3:32:36 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Is this another one of those doctored photos?
2 posted on 02/15/2004 3:35:56 PM PST by marvlus
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To: ambrose
ROTF!!!

You tell'em, Howie!!!

3 posted on 02/15/2004 3:37:35 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: ambrose
Why am I not surprised?

Ron Fournier is one of the designated tools of the clintons and the DNC. In his earlier article, he said that Deans advisers thought he would shortly bow out of the race and support the designated candidate--who in the end will be hillary, IMHO. The clintonoids were hoping to use the earlier AP story to force Dean to behave like a good little clintonoid robot.

But he's not that kind of guy. He's very angry, because it was hillary who wrecked his lock on the nomination. If they push him too hard, he will probably join forces with Ralph Nader rather than toe the party line.
4 posted on 02/15/2004 3:38:56 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ambrose
the fallen front-runner was all but certain to effectively abandon his bid,

When was Howard Dean ever a frontrunner except at DU?

5 posted on 02/15/2004 3:39:05 PM PST by angkor
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To: ambrose
"We are not bowing out."

Translation: Throw more money down this rat hole.

6 posted on 02/15/2004 3:39:14 PM PST by Drango (Liberals give me a rash that even penicillin can't cure.)
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To: ambrose
Who's Howard Dean?
7 posted on 02/15/2004 3:39:21 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!")
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To: ambrose
On Fox he sounded like a real bitter-ender. Said he wouldn't kiss their ring (DNC - Terry - Clinton?) and didn't care and wouldn't quit. Hopefully he'll run as a Green Party candidate.
8 posted on 02/15/2004 3:41:14 PM PST by kcar (Tired of Democratic-scare tactics.)
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To: ambrose
"We are not bowing out."

Nope... you are "getting blown out" or "falling out" or "out of touch"... you fill in the blank!
9 posted on 02/15/2004 3:41:19 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: ambrose
"In fact, we are staying in the race. The forum we will use to stay in the race remains to be seen.

In the post Clinton era, for liberals, words can mean anything you want. He will drop out of the race but then say he's really not dropping out because he will still be pushing his issues. This is one of the worst legacies of Clinton - his bastardization of the common meaning of the english language.

10 posted on 02/15/2004 3:43:11 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk
http://www.glennbeck.com/election04/howarddean.htm

Don't Drop Out HOWARD !
11 posted on 02/15/2004 3:46:43 PM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: ambrose
Go, Howie, Go!
12 posted on 02/15/2004 3:48:15 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("That's all I'm going to say for now. Quack, quack.")
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To: plain talk
Here's to hoping the forum he chooses to continue his campaign is the Green Party.
13 posted on 02/15/2004 3:49:08 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ( I went to the gun show today and saw an Sharpton for President sticker on a truck. Seriously dude.)
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To: Cicero
Ironically, Dean can't say what he wants to say: The Clinton's are a cancer. The Deaniacs love Clinton, too.
14 posted on 02/15/2004 3:54:36 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Cicero
Ron Fournier is one of the designated tools of the clintons and the DNC. In his earlier article,...

There's no doubt in my mind he's a Rat shill. I remember him all too well from the 2000 election where he was in overdrive promoting loser Gore. He tones it down between elections, but you can bet Mr. Fournicator will be back spewing to his old tongue-in-cheek falsehoods.

15 posted on 02/15/2004 3:56:47 PM PST by demlosers
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To: kcar
I think Dean/Edwards helps Kerry.

It keeps the facade up that there's still a race for the nomination, leading to glowing kissy-poo coverage of Kerry for each successive primary that he wins.
16 posted on 02/15/2004 3:57:04 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: ambrose
anyone know the wisconsin poll numbers?
17 posted on 02/15/2004 3:59:55 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: bolobaby
"We are not bowing out."

Yeah, to bow out one would show a) class, b) intelligence, and c) respect.
Dean has none of the above, apparently.

18 posted on 02/15/2004 4:02:55 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: ambrose
"We are not bowing out."

"Instead, we are ripping the bandage off, slowly and painfully."

19 posted on 02/15/2004 4:08:49 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: ambrose
Howard's pinning his hopes on an intern scandal, methinks. If Kerry crashes and burns over some illicit cooter, I suppose he figures it'll be a two-way race between him and Edwards.
20 posted on 02/15/2004 4:43:36 PM PST by Viking2002 (Liberals can't take the heat unless they're the ones with their hands on the thermostat.....)
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