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Friedman: Kerry, not Bush, can deliver the most crucial comments on Iraq (Kerry undermines US)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 02/17/2004 | Thomas Friedman

Posted on 02/17/2004 3:40:20 PM PST by e_castillo

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To: GulliverSwift
Kerry would have gone, hat in hand, to France and the rest of that spineless crowd at the UN, offered endless compromises and bags of money if Muslims would just be nice. For years, France has paid Arab govt's extortion money so they wouldn't blow up Paris. Kerry would have done the same, and we'd have gasoline at $3.50 per gallon in no time. Plus, he's already saying we'd be conserving energy so we wouldn't have to send troops overseas to make the Arabs behave. Does this sound familiar? Can we all spell....C...A...R...T...E...R?
21 posted on 02/17/2004 4:50:57 PM PST by hershey
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To: GulliverSwift
"I applaud Friedman for trying to kick his fellow Dims in the rear and wake them up to reality. It's a rarity these days coming from a committed Democrat."

Unfortunately, by cueing Kerry to be forcefully bipartisan and pro-American, Friedman is merely peeing in the wind...

22 posted on 02/17/2004 4:53:48 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: GulliverSwift
And, even if Kerry said what Friedman wants, who would believe him?
23 posted on 02/17/2004 4:55:05 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: okie01
You've got a point there.
24 posted on 02/17/2004 4:57:24 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Keep the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">gigolo</a> out of the White House!)
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To: e_castillo
you're right of course, Kerry couldn't hope to get many democratic votes by doing that, and most of the republican votes already belong to W.

my general point is that Kerry should (and i stress should) do what is right. and I realize that not everyone on this forum is religous at all, so they might disagree somewhere. So someone believes we cannot gauge what is right and no one can proove otherwise... this is a fallacy called argumentum ad Ignorantium (I know this b/c I'm on my highschool debate team) rather my point would be, not that we *cannot gauge* what is right, but that we should gauge what is right for ourselves given what we know and have been taught. Yeah I can understand your point is well, Kerry wouldn't have a snowball's chance in Hades of getting nominated if he makes a statement like this. but you know it would get him lined up for a victory from right-wing swing voters (if there is such a thing).

the point of the article is that a statement like this from Kerry would result in a reduction of terrorist attacks (or so I gather)
25 posted on 02/17/2004 4:59:06 PM PST by conservative_crusader (Annuit Coeptis (He has smiled on our undertaking))
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To: okie01
Repeat after me:
"Liberals cannot be trusted with executive power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with executive power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with executive power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with executive power"
Et cetera...

Repeat after me:
"Liberals cannot be trusted with legislative power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with legislative power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with legislative power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with legislative power"
Et cetera...

Repeat after me:
"Liberals cannot be trusted with judicial power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with judicial power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with judicial power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with judicial power"
Et cetera...

Repeat after me:
"Liberals cannot be trusted with power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with power"
"Liberals cannot be trusted with power"
Et cetera...

26 posted on 02/17/2004 5:13:12 PM PST by reg45
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To: demnomo
Friedman is desperate.

period.

27 posted on 02/17/2004 5:16:15 PM PST by mombonn
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To: hershey
Just reading Kerry's rant makes my hair stand on end.

I've already started yelling at the TV when he comes on. Thank heaven for the mute button!

28 posted on 02/17/2004 5:20:31 PM PST by mombonn
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To: Shermy
I just wish one reporter would have the 'nads to ask Kerry one thing...Senator, you say you can build coalitions that would help us in places like Iraq, tell me what happens if they tell you no like they did Bush? Would you do what you had determined what was right for us or would you stand down?
29 posted on 02/17/2004 5:22:21 PM PST by SCHROLL
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To: mombonn
Yes. Friedman still thinks that peace in the Middle East can come via negotiations that rely on logic or common sense thinking from Arabs raised from infancy to hate.
30 posted on 02/17/2004 5:27:11 PM PST by demnomo
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To: e_castillo
The flaw in Friedman's reasoning is that he assumes that Kerry will put the national interest ahead of his own political advantage. No chance of that. From now until election day, it's in Kerry's interest to have the Islamofascists make the situation in Iraq as messy as possible for the U.S., and the terrorists have a vested interest in a Democratic victory. If the Democrats win, they win.
31 posted on 02/17/2004 5:39:50 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
it's in Kerry's interest to have the Islamofascists make the situation in Iraq as messy as possible for the U.S

That pretty much sums it up.
32 posted on 02/17/2004 6:09:55 PM PST by e_castillo
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To: e_castillo
Their strategy is to sow chaos, defeat President Bush and hope that his Democratic successor will pull out.

Terrorist are rooting for a Dem President

And worse .. the Dems are embracing it

33 posted on 02/17/2004 6:12:36 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: e_castillo
ROTFLMCO!!!! Can any of you even imagine how stupid Kerry would sound coming out with something like this? Besides, even if Friedman is too dumb to know Kerry's history, I guarantee you the terrorists aren't.

How old is Friedman, 12?

34 posted on 02/17/2004 6:16:50 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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