We had virtually to straight-jacket [Kerry] to keep him under control (Admiral Zumwalt on Kerry)

taipeitimes ^ | Feb 11, 2004 | W. Scott Thompson

[colorado tanker]

The key is to nail down whether Zumwalt meant Kerry or Kerrey. Both were Navy, Senators and in VVAW.

[oldgrunt]

Amen. He got a Silver Star for leaving his command post on the boat and going ashore to execute a wounded enemy soldier and returning with said dead soldier's equipment.
In the army, we didn't kill wounded enemy soldiers, we treated them as we would our own.

[mylife]

This is for certain

W. Scott Thompson
Adjunct Professor of International Politics
Education:
BA, Stanford Univeristy;
DPhil in politics as a Rhodes Scholar and Danforth Fellow, Oxford University.

Recent Publications:
Rapid Economic Growth and Political Conflict in Southwest Asia (1998); The Philippine Road to NIChood (1996); The Price of Achievement: Coming Out in Reagan Days (1995); Philippines in Crisis (1992); From Weakness to Strength: National Security in the 1980s (1980). Articles have appeared in Foreign Policy, International Security, Orbis, The New York Times and The Washington Post.

Professional Activities:
Former White House Fellow and Assistant to the Secretary of Defense (1975-77); Associate Director, Policy and Programs at the USIA (1982-84); Presidentially appointed member of the Board of Directors of the United States Institute of Peace (1985-present); Member, Advisory Board, Search for Common Ground, council on foreign Relations, International Institute for Strategic Studies; Director, Program in Southeast Asia Studies.

Research Interests:
Politics of Southeast Asia; psychohistory; US foreign policy; Third World conflict resolution.

[moodyskeptic]

The Democrats seem to have found a baby killer they can love.

[oldgrunt]

He never saw napalm (naptha and palm oil with a congealing agent to make it cling) or smelled it!

[mercy]

Kerry's a war criminal and the press will not touch it. Judas Priest! The world sucks! We need a civil war in this country.

[mylife]

My post 63 was from the Tufts facuty site at Tufts.edu

[ampat]

I don't know if Thompson has his kerry's right. His article is based on a verbal conversation. Senator Bob Kerrey was in VN at the same time as John Kerry. Bob Kerrey had admitted publicly that he had killed civilians when he was in VN. Unless Thompson can clear up which Kerry or Kerrey Adm. Z was referring to, this may be a non-story.

[mabelkitty]

Leaves more questions than answers bump!

[oldgrunt]

It is so. Department of the Navy (includes Marine Corps) regs were such that it took three wounds to be excluded from combat duty. Any wound requiring medical attention was a Purple Heart award. In the Army (I did four years in the Infantry, Korea and Viet Nam), two would get you non-combat status but not shipment home.

[hoosiermama]

Here's the information on the first item where his work is published:..........Interesting?

Association of National Security Alumni. Unclassified. (Published quarterly since 1989; edited since 1994 by Verne Lyon; last issue appeared in 1997.)

The Association of National Security Alumni is an organization that seeks to expose and curtail covert actions because they "are counter- productive and damaging to the national interest of the United States, inimical to the operation of an effective national intelligence system, corruptive of civil liberties, ... and they contradict the principles of democracy, national self-determination and international law to which the United States is publicly committed."

David MacMichael, the person who started ANSA and was Unclassified's first editor, is a former CIA analyst who resigned rather than falsify his reports for political reasons. "Unclassified" was valuable for those who follow various judicial and legislative efforts to investigate or remedy abuses within the intelligence community. ANSA helps whistleblowers and tracks current scandals, particularly those that have achieved some official attention (Iran-contra, BCCI, October Surprise, Inslaw, etc.). They are nonideological and nonpartisan in terms of left-right, Democrat-Republican, preferring to stay on the mark by encouraging concrete reforms as a response to recognized problems.

[mylife]

Very interesting. If this is true, It doesnt look as if it will require any freeper assistance!

[oldgrunt]

You could use an education. Maybe a change of diet or climate. Maybe southern California or Communist China.

[hoosiermama]

That's what I was thinking.....If the gentlemen is indeed a man who ife is based on "doing the right thing" It will come out..... Sit back and enjoy the show. OTOH bookmark this sight and his name.....

[oldgrunt]

Lying dirtbag! His only nightmares would be getting caught in any of his liasons.

[mylife]

If it has any legs it will come out after the nomination

[jmstein7]

Please click here to fight back against the media coverup of Kerry's record!

[There's millions of'em]

I would normally tend to agree with you, but I allow for the longshot chance here that Z did know Kerry for a couple of reasons:

It is possible that Kerry's file had a "political flag" on it due to his family's relationship with the Kennedys. If it did, Z would have been briefed on K's assignment. This may be one of the reasons that K refuses to release his Navy files.

It is possible that K was given preferential treatment in obtaining the swift boat assignment, because of high level connections.

It is possible that K came to Z's attention because of his being in the swift boats, and the swift boats having such a high profile mission. Since K volunteered, and he was on a volunteer 2d tour, and he was a Yalie, and he was politically connected... I think it is possible.

[mylife]

Looks like Edwards is leading Kerry by 2% in Wisconsin

[oldgrunt]

You guys don't know about the "brown water Navy", I do. I served with them. I was with 3rd Battalion, 47th Infantry Regiment,9th Infantry Division in the Mekong Delta in 1967 in what was called the Mobile Riverine Force (they have a web site MRF.com). Those Navy guys were armed to the teeth and they shot the living hell out of everything including us.
Kerry was involved with this "shoot the the hell of them" business. He never went to the beach unless it was to the Officers' Club.