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We had virtually to straight-jacket [Kerry] to keep him under control (Admiral Zumwalt on Kerry)
taipeitimes ^ | Feb 11, 2004 | W. Scott Thompson

Posted on 02/17/2004 4:50:28 PM PST by jmstein7

Harold Wilson, that British politician more canny than admired, usefully reminded his audience that things can change very quickly in politics.

"A week is a long time," he said, in politics, and we have seen this over and over in the American scene these past months.

After all, only nine weeks ago former vice president Al Gore blessed the insurgent campaign of Howard Dean and most pundits thought the race was over. All that was needed was the anointing of the former Vermont governor as Democratic party standard-bearer to take on US President George W. Bush in November.

Overnight Senator John Kerry, whose campaign had almost imploded late last year, turned the race upside down by winning big in Iowa's caucuses and then the weeks following in New Hampshire, Missouri and other primaries -- not only showing he has the "Big Mo" (or momentum) essential for winning in America, but a hammerlock on the nomination.

Or so it looks. After all, Senator Joe Lieberman has withdrawn, Wesley Clark's hopes are forlorn and John Edwards is resting his case on a single win, in the state of his birth.

But can it happen again? Dean's hold looked airtight until folks actually went to the polls. He had money to burn and endorsements from across the country, and now he is barely maintaining viability as a serious candidate. What could go wrong with Kerry's campaign at this point, and are there any implications for Asia?

Not a lot, but no one yet considers it over. The lanky and experienced Massachusetts senator has money to burn. No one wants to say it, but his wife's near billion-dollar fortune at the very least permits him to spend all his own, more modest, fortune to smooth his way. She can't shovel money directly into his campaign, but the mere fact of her fortune gives confidence to other contributors or lenders that they're backing a winner. He has seemingly unlimited self-confidence, despite many trip-ups in his long career.

But no senator has won the keys to the White House since John F. Kennedy.

There's a reason why senators don't tend to win. They've been on the record for too long on too many issues. There are too many interest groups they have had to cultivate and satiate to stay in politics. Sam Nunn, a powerful senator from Georgia who didn't even have to face serious re-election opposition, left the Senate in 1996 because he tired of spending his evenings entertaining his major supporters and running over to the Senate to vote. At the prime of life, he wanted to rediscover his family.

The real issue that Kerry must resolve is, however, character. Now that he is the front-runner, he must not only answer to all the charges of serving special interests that have risen and will still rise, he has to satisfy the public that he is, not to put too fine a point on it, an honorable man. There are questions.

Kerry has managed to straddle many issues and so it is difficult to discern his real beliefs -- other than in himself. He votes for the war in Iraq so he doesn't look "wet" and then votes against Pentagon budget rises, so he can please the liberal Democrats, who give him one of their highest ratings. When he looks at an acquaintance, he always seems to be looking just past, to see if someone more important lurks behind his interlocutor. Of course that's just standard politics. But people want something more.

He now makes much of his decorations from the war in Vietnam, to appeal to centrists and conservatives, without reminding those audiences that he for long was a leader of Vietnam veterans against the war. Indeed, assiduous searchers, looking for his vulnerabilities, will find much of interest in that period of his life. For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.

It is that sort of thing that senators don't have to worry about. But if they become a front-runner for president, the whole ball-game changes. Their past is scrutinized with a fine-tooth comb. In Kerry's case, for example, he has shown precious little interest in Asia since his tour in Vietnam, and there is little doubt that he will follow the standard Democratic party, pro-Beijing, line. But every word he's ever spoken on it will be scrutinized.

That is why it is not only true that a week is a long time in politics. But, as they say in American politics, "It ain't over until the fat lady sings."

W. Scott Thompson is an adjunct professor at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University in Boston, and a former assistant secretary of state in the Reagan administration. He has visited Taipei eight times and now lives in Bali.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; cno; kerry; kerrylies; militaryrecord; straightjacket; swiftboat; vietnamwar; warcriminal; zumwalt
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1 posted on 02/17/2004 4:50:29 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: jmstein7; onyx
Damn, trying to remember who else to ping...

For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

Totally Clintonian!!!!

2 posted on 02/17/2004 4:57:58 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: jmstein7
" . . . created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets."

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said.

Didn't Lt. Calley get crucified for killing civilians?

3 posted on 02/17/2004 5:00:11 PM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: jmstein7
Explains why he felt he had to lie and accuse others of doing what he had done.
4 posted on 02/17/2004 5:01:17 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: jmstein7
"young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets."

War Criminal. He should have to answer to this.

5 posted on 02/17/2004 5:01:53 PM PST by LADY J
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To: jmstein7; PhiKapMom
For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.

Is there any corroboration for this?

6 posted on 02/17/2004 5:02:38 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GWB 1/20/04)
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To: jmstein7
"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said.

I suppose the English-as-a-second-language folks at the Taipei Times should be given some slack -- after all, I'm not exactly conversant in any of the various Chinese languages -- but it's straitjacket.

7 posted on 02/17/2004 5:03:33 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Yes, but other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?")
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To: jmstein7
For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage

...But if they become a front-runner for president, the whole ball-game changes. Their past is scrutinized with a fine-tooth comb.

Not if the bulk of American media has any say in it......

Prairie

8 posted on 02/17/2004 5:03:54 PM PST by prairiebreeze (WMD's in Iraq -- The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.)
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To: jmstein7
Chilling.
9 posted on 02/17/2004 5:04:28 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: LADY J
Sounds like Kerry loved the smell of napalm in the morning.
10 posted on 02/17/2004 5:05:11 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: jmstein7
... Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

Seems like Ketchup Boy was telling the truth when he admitted to committing war crimes.

Perhaps he was a bit trigger happy?

11 posted on 02/17/2004 5:07:25 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Liberals are guilty of everything they accuse Conservatives of.)
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To: Ciexyz
"Sounds like Kerry loved the smell of napalm in the morning."

It's chilling to read about his atrocities. He sounds like a blood thirsty coward. Now he keeps bragging about being a war hero and shoving his medals in our face.

Worse yet - he came back and blamed the other soldiers for the crimes that he did.

12 posted on 02/17/2004 5:10:58 PM PST by LADY J
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To: AmericanVictory
Explains why he felt he had to lie and accuse others of doing what he had done.

Teresa has stated that John has nightmares, flashbacks, etc. Not what you would expect from his public record of pulling people out of rivers, charging wounded soldiers, etc.

Would make a lot of sense if he was attacking civilians.

13 posted on 02/17/2004 5:11:11 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, ...

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage.

So is Admiral Elmo ZUMWALT still alive?....Where can he be contacted?....and how do we get him on National media programs?

RECORDS! I want to see ALL of Kerry's military records. (particularly those signed by Zumwalt)

14 posted on 02/17/2004 5:15:02 PM PST by hoosiermama (Ask Kerry to list the major pieces of enacted legislation he has authored in his career.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I just thought of something, maybe Kerry was sent home early because they wanted to get rid of him. Give him his 3 purple hearts and send him home. In other words he was fired. Maybe thats why he took up his anti war stance, to get back at them.
15 posted on 02/17/2004 5:16:48 PM PST by EastIdaho (Warning to tourists, do not laugh at the natives)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; Hon; backhoe
FReeper The Spotted Owl and I created this citizen's campaign ad

George Bush honorably served his country during the Vietnam War, but didn't get any medals.

George Bush "We will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of the United States."

John Kerry served during the Vietnam War, won many medals, then threw some one else's medals back in his country's face.

John Kerry accused his fellow soldiers of rape, baby killing and torture, and his country of war crimes.

John Kerry “I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told (The Crimson in 1970.)"> “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

America needs a leader with morals, honor, and vision. Not a leader who will ask for a UN permission slip to protect America.

Bush/Cheney in 2004.

16 posted on 02/17/2004 5:17:39 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: Hon; RonDog; ALOHA RONNIE; PhilDragoo; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
What if the real War Criminal, Kerry referred to after he returned was himself:

"The fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets.

"We had virtually to straight-jacket him to keep him under control," the admiral said. "Bud" Zumwalt got it right when he assessed Kerry as having large ambitions -- but promised that his career in Vietnam would haunt him if he were ever on the national stage."

Is this why he flipped out and became an anti war geek, after seeing his own War Criminal actions?

17 posted on 02/17/2004 5:17:46 PM PST by Grampa Dave (John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
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To: jmstein7
" For example, the fabled and distinguished chief of naval operations (CNO), Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, told me -- 30 years ago when he was still CNO -- that during his own command of US naval forces in Vietnam, just prior to his anointment as CNO, young Kerry had created great problems for him and the other top brass, by killing so many non-combatant civilians and going after other non-military targets. "

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HEY! They can't say this about The War Kriminal! Don't they know that he's a Highly Decorated Veteran? Who the hell is this Zumwalt anyway? Where are his papers? Did he complete his enlistment? What did he know and when did he know it?

18 posted on 02/17/2004 5:18:21 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: LADY J
Now he keeps bragging about being a war hero and shoving his medals in our face.

I keep hearing rumors about how Ketchup Boy wrote up his own recomendation for the silver star because his CO or other officer was not there to witness his "heroics'. I also keep hearing how his three purple hearts were for "minor wounds".

Any freepers out there who can verify this?

19 posted on 02/17/2004 5:18:37 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Liberals are guilty of everything they accuse Conservatives of.)
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To: jmstein7
W. Scott Thompson is an adjunct professor at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University in Boston, and a former assistant secretary of state in the Reagan administration. He has visited Taipei eight times and now lives in Bali.

Anybody know more about this guy Thompson?

These are very serious accusations

20 posted on 02/17/2004 5:18:49 PM PST by mylife
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