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LET'S TALK ABOUT "YOUR" JOBS
Nealz Nuze ^ | Wednesday, February 18, 2004 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 02/18/2004 5:12:57 AM PST by beaureguard

Jobs .. and the economy. Those seem to be the issues that are driving many, if not most, of those who are supporting the Kerry candidacy.

First of all ... I'm going to repeat this simply because it makes the whiners so unbelievably angry. Listen up. They're not your jobs! The jobs belong to the employers .. not to you! You have job skills and, presumably, a willingness to work. Your task in a free economy is to get out there and find some employer with a job who needs your skills ... and strike a deal.

If you do not have the particular set of job skills that an employer needs, of if you have priced your labor out of the marketplace, guess what? It's not the employer's fault. The fault lies with you. Either develop a new set of job skills that are actually in demand, or adjust your pricing. The employer knows what he's looking for you. If you're not it .. it's your problem, not his.

Now ... you say you're going to vote for a Democrat this year because of jobs? You mean to tell me that you're going to vote against George Bush this year because you don't have a set of job skills that are in demand in our free marketplace? Yeah .. that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

Tell me. Just what do you want the president to do? You information technology people out there .. just what are you demanding? Do you want companies to stop outsourcing IT jobs to India? OK ... tell me how to do that. These companies aren't shipping parts overseas and completed products back. All they do is ship information overseas by phone lines or the Internet. Then that information is modified and shipped back the same way. What do you want the government .. the president to do? Do you want some federal law that prohibits companies from transmitting information overseas by the Internet, having that information transformed or modified, and then shipped back? And tell me just how do you enforce that law? Does that law then apply to you also if you seek information from a company that is located overseas, thus depriving a domestic company of your business?

Ditto for manufacturing. I've already told you the story about the California company that makes computer mouses. (computer mice?) This company ships the components to China. The mouse is assembled in China and shipped back, then sold for around $40. Why? Because the assembly is cheaper in China than it would be in the US. So, you say you want the president to force this company to have that mouse assembled in the US? Fine .. then the price for the mouse goes up to about $70 a pop and sales drop. As the sales drop the jobs of the people in this country who manufacture the components for that mouse go away. Then the 100 marketing jobs this company supports in California also go away. You see, perhaps you can succeed in forcing this company to assemble these mouses in the US, but there just isn't any way you can force the American consumer to pay 80% more for the "made in America" version.

As Bruce Bartlett says in an article listed in my reading assignments, "No nation has ever gotten rich by forcing its citizens to pay more for domestic goods and services that could have been procured more cheaply abroad."

What we are seeing here is a demonstration of the "government owes me" mentality of far too many Americans. Every time you arrive at a speed bump in your life's journey you start screaming to the government for help. Sure, the speed bump is going to slow you down a bit ... but just keep moving forward and things inevitably pick up speed again. Americans are becoming helpless whiners. The more helpless you are, and the more you whine, the more likely it is you're going to vote for a Democrat. Democrats specialize in stroking the malcontent.

Congratulations, whiners. At a time when America if fighting World War IV, the war against Islamic terrorism ... you're going to vote for a candidate who wants to treat terrorism as a freaking law enforcement problem because you've made some pitiful jobs choices. Pitiful.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boortz; jobmarket; nealznuze
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To: FITZ
You can even lose your private property when job loss prevents you from paying property taxes --- the government will just take it away from you.

That is not a lack of legal protection for private property.

101 posted on 02/18/2004 6:14:26 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: Taliesan
now that we know your "witty retort" button works, how about an answer?
102 posted on 02/18/2004 6:16:11 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: smith288
The jobs belong to the employers .. not the voters!

The votes belong to the voters, however. And they aren't going to vote for politicians that don't think the availablility of good jobs is important.

103 posted on 02/18/2004 6:16:55 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: MEG33
provide something of use or interest, or shut up :)
104 posted on 02/18/2004 6:17:01 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: FITZ
WHY does Mexico have no middle class? Are they TOO capitalistic, or not enough?

The middle class is a capitalist phenomenon. Feudalism is a response to anarchy.

105 posted on 02/18/2004 6:17:18 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: MacDorcha
Our government is forcing you and I to feed the people. Plus give them free eduation and free health care. I'd rather have them all working and providing all that for themselves. We've got welfare rates approaching 40% in this region --- plus close to double digit unemployment. I can look over the border and see where this is going to lead us.
106 posted on 02/18/2004 6:17:25 AM PST by FITZ
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To: beaureguard
Yep. THIS GUY said something similar last week. It helped ME to understand this subject...
107 posted on 02/18/2004 6:19:01 AM PST by redhead
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To: FITZ
i dont WANT our goverment to feed the lazy. geesh, why are you attacking me? do you not understand? or are you trying to make commy propaganda not sound like commy propaganda?
108 posted on 02/18/2004 6:19:02 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha
No, I don't think so. Honestly, I don't think you understand economics enough to even carry on a conversation about it. You're just angry and incoherent, and that is a waste of time. Sorry.
109 posted on 02/18/2004 6:19:23 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: Taliesan
Mexico has some very wealthy Capitalists. That's not it's problem --- it doesn't have Capitalism by the many --- the USA had Capitalism of the majority --- but the way most of us can be Capitalists is by working --- even the Jerry Springer audience types can be Capitalists if they have a job.
110 posted on 02/18/2004 6:19:36 AM PST by FITZ
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To: The Mayor
I am in the process of doing the same thing. I want to do that , refinish antiques, build antique reproductions, repair furniture. Are you doing any advertising at all? I am currently building custom kitchen cabinet doors for a friend.

If you make a quality product your work will do most of the advertising, ie word of mouth. One of the drawbacks of mass produced everything is blandness and lower quality.

There are people out there who would rather spend more on a quality well made piece than save a few pennies on something that won't last or hold it's value.

111 posted on 02/18/2004 6:21:33 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: beaureguard; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
The jobs belong to the employers .. not to you!

Really? So before the employer finds someone willing to work how exactly this job exists? Employer provides the capital, employees provide the labor. Both sides are needed.

Second - whatever employer owns is defined by the laws/state. The private property is a legal construct sustained by the rest of society, same way as a corporation is a construct. Destroy the society - you will lose the constructs.

112 posted on 02/18/2004 6:22:33 AM PST by A. Pole (The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.)
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To: FITZ
You didn't understand the question.
113 posted on 02/18/2004 6:22:52 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: MacDorcha
But we are feeding them --- the same government that promotes outsourcing of jobs confiscates your money to provide equal health care and standards of living for those who aren't working anymore.

Plus is we don't feed them --- then we'll look like Mexico --- where there are beggars on every corner --- street children galore. I'd just rather everyone have jobs and take care of themselves.
114 posted on 02/18/2004 6:23:14 AM PST by FITZ
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To: MacDorcha
I was being sarcastic,but I was telling the truth about the dems talking a good game.I thought I was listening to a combination of a union rally and Huey Long listening to Kerry last night.

Yes,my "sounds like a winner" was sarcastic because I don't believe him.His domestic policies could only be paid for by drastically cutting military spending.He is a socialist and an internationalist.He betrayed and lied about his own brothers in arms.I am sure he will have no problem selling out America.
115 posted on 02/18/2004 6:23:21 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: beaureguard
This is the most outrageous screed of lame, vile, twisted, insulting to ones intelligence, pile of manure I have ever read.
116 posted on 02/18/2004 6:23:49 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: CajunConservative
made with real wood and not particle board coverd with laminate.

I agree!
117 posted on 02/18/2004 6:23:56 AM PST by The Mayor ("If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate."- Nikka - age 6)
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To: Taliesan
this coming from someone who thinks that we cant reach stability by providing better income? i didnt say the governement was the one to do so, but the companies could if they liked their tax-free basis in the USA. you act as if "supply and demand" was one of the lesser principles of economics. if not, then you act as if it only applies to products, and not services.
118 posted on 02/18/2004 6:24:11 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: Taliesan
Oh well --- I have to go off to work now --- someone's got to pay the taxes.
119 posted on 02/18/2004 6:24:40 AM PST by FITZ
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To: beaureguard
If you do not have the particular set of job skills that an employer needs, of if you have priced your labor out of the marketplace, guess what? It's not the employer's fault. The fault lies with you. Either develop a new set of job skills that are actually in demand, or adjust your pricing.

An industrial worker in communist China makes 30 or 40 cents an hour, the slave laborer make 0 cents an hour, a PhD in India makes maybe 20 grand a year.

You tell me how an American industrial worker or white collar hi-tech worker can compete against those wages.

HOW???????

This country was not set up just to benefit CEO's and multi-national corps while the rest of us live in cardboard boxes under the nearest bridge!

Our government is charged with "promoting the general welfare" of the American people.

I believe that US corps should have the right to hire whom they like but the government has the obligation to promote the general welfare of ALL the people so these companies that outsource or move operations offshore should lose any tax breaks they had been given in the past and be forbidden to do any work of any kind for the US and any state government.

Plus their product should have an extra tax put on it as well because of the economic damage that these companies do to America.

Like another poster said, if the Republicans think they are going to win elections by telling formerly middle-class, formerly productive taxpayers, formerly base Republican voters, that this destructive off-shoring - outsourcing process is GOOD FOR THEM and their now bankrupt families, the Republicans WILL be voted out of office and the Rat party will again gain an iron grip over this country once again.

You Republicans NEVER LEARN do you?

I hope those 6 thousand dollar shower curtains and 2 million dollar birthday parties that you Republican free traitors are fighting for seem worth it to you after the next 8 years of demoRat rule over this country!

120 posted on 02/18/2004 6:24:46 AM PST by Walkin Man
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