[Recovering_Democrat]

Typical liberal Miami press: look for the most anti-conservative article put out by the Associated Press or Reuters or UPI, and put that on your web site.

I've got a great source for liberals who don't think we know what happened to Jesus:

[Pan_Yans Wife]

What about other historical figures? Buddha? Caesar? Alexander the Great? Is there more information about them, than Christ? I don't know... but there are books or films that deal with these types of historical figures, and I don't know that anyone complained in the past saying there isn't enough documentation!

[Recovering_Democrat]

Zias said the question of whether Jesus was nailed to the cross or simply tied to it remains a mystery. "There is no evidence whatsoever he was nailed," he said. "The Gospels say he was crucified and leave it at that."

Really? What about the gospel of John?

John 20:25
So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."

Zias conveniently ignores the comments in the Postscript to the Gospel, the Acts of the Apostles:

Acts 2:23
This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.

[laconic]

Interesting how these "experts" ignore the first-person account of the crucifixion which appears in the Holy Bible. But then again, I'm one of the ignorant, unwashed masses who also believes that God parted the Red Sea for Moses and that he actually handed the Ten Commandments down to him on Mt. Sinai.

[commish]

Dearth Of Information About Christ's Crucifixion Makes It Impossible To Render Accurate Account

Hmm seems to me we have 4 pretty accurate accounts of the crucifixion. I think thier names were Mark, Matthew, Luke and John. Correct me if I am wrong here.

[Guillermo]

But of course, all the claims that Jesus was a homosexual, that Jesus married Mary Magdalene, ad nauseum, cannot ever be dismissed as "innacurate."

[Bohemund]

Already posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1081493/posts

[sauropod]

read later

[onedoug]

Just have the baptismal fonts outside the theaters manned and ready.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

People who have seen the movie say it adopts standard Christian imagery in excruciating detail: Jesus being pinioned to a Latin cross -- a T-shaped device with a short upper extension -- with one nail driven through both feet and one through each palm. >>

Check out the Shroud of Turin (which has NOT been "discredited" as the left likes to pretend). It's portrayal is, ahem, "as it was" (although the holes are in His wrists, not the palms of His hands).

[tracer]

The only things about the Atonement of Jesus Christ are (a) it happened; (b) it was voluntary and efficacious; (c) that we understand and believe in it and its supremely vital role in our salvation; and (d) that we avail ourselves of it by how we live our lives and the extent that we repent of our sins that the Savior paid for with his blood.

Discussions and disputations concerning who in a mob said what; where they drove the nails; who was to "blame" -- I still cannot comprehend how that question could ever arise -- and all of the other horrid details simply are irrelevant and immaterial and only serve to detract from His Atonement within our minds. -- to the great delight of the Adversary, I might add.

The supernally important thing is that He lives and He will return in glory at a time which, I must admit, will be beyond that which I hope and pray for as I try to maintain my equilibrium in this crazy world......

[Caipirabob]

I've got a great source for liberals who don't think we know what happened to Jesus:

Keep in mind that liberals consider that "hate literature".

[AmishDude]

We don't know what happened, but we're going to criticize how Gibson represents it, anyway.

This movie is such a Rorschach test.

[BlessedBeGod]

So, since there's so little info, maybe we can go so far as to say it never even happened. < /sarcasm >

[Protagoras]

Nothing that the non Christian Crossen says changes anything material about the crucifixion.

[Happy2BMe]

"I consulted a huge number of theologians, scholars, priests, spiritual writers," Gibson wrote. "The film is faithful to the Gospels but I had to fill in a lot of details -- like the way Jesus would have carried His cross, or whether the nails went through the palms of His hands or his wrists ... Since the experts canceled each other out, I was thrown back on my own resources to weigh the different arguments and decide for myself."

The devil shows up with his artful and crafty confusion even before Passion hits the streets . .

This rendition of the Crucifixtion of Christ must really have all the demons of Hollywood cringing in their holes.

[Chris Talk]

Since these writers will not accept the historical facts in the New Testament, they try to write their own poorly researched "hysterical" novels about their imaginings as to what THEY think OUGHT to have happened instead.

If anybody uses the expression "historical Jesus," remember that that means their own fiction, not the Scriptural facts.

[aruanan]

Dearth Of Information About Christ's Crucifixion Makes It Impossible To Render Accurate Account

There is more historical information for the crucifixion of Jesus and information that is closer to the event in question than there is for anything else during that era.

[discostu]

I notice it never occurs to these guys that it's not an either or proposition. You could nail somebody to the cross AND tie them up, the obvious advantage being that more open wound hastens bleeding to death. I'm also kind of amazed that they'd want Mel to go against the religious iconography just for their version of accuracy; if I were making a movie about the crucifiction even if I had absolute proof positive that no nail ever touched Jesus' flesh I'd still have him nailed to the cross in the movie. Don't mess with 2000 year-old symbols all that will happens is everybody will discuss that 1 moment in the film and ignore everything else.

[Redcloak]

The only skeleton of a crucified person ever recovered indicated that the two arms were tied to a crossbar, and two nails were used in either shinbone.

This is incorrect. I've have heard of at least one skeleton being recovered of a person known to have been crucified that showed nail wounds through the wrists. The radius bones showed wear consistent with the victim pushing himself up to breath and then slouching back down. The pivot points for the arms were the nails. At these points, the nails began to wear notches into the bone.

[Jaded]

Talk about splitting hairs. I see today is full of new stories condemning the movie.