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Results of NASA experiments with Spiders and Drugs
missblackwidow.com ^ | Steve Connor

Posted on 02/20/2004 9:07:21 PM PST by Destro

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To: Prime Choice
Let me know what facts you feel are in contention. Enjoy the pics.
21 posted on 02/20/2004 9:45:04 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Ok, what does it prove?
22 posted on 02/20/2004 9:45:05 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
Is this a real nasa study?

Judging from the absolute lack of mention of such programs on all NASA sites I've seen, I'd have to say no.

NASA does spaceflight experiments on spiders and other creatures, but the drug stuff isn't part of it.

23 posted on 02/20/2004 9:45:42 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: cyborg
I think I will stick to bottled water for a while
24 posted on 02/20/2004 9:45:48 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Monty22
No agenda - just results of a science experiment.
25 posted on 02/20/2004 9:46:29 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: KangarooJacqui
Spider web images originally appeared in A Spider's Web by Peter N. Witt, Charles F. Reed and David B. Peakall. Copyright 1968 by Springer-Verlag.

1998

Dr. Peter N. Witt

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- Dr. Peter N. Witt, widely known for his research
involving psychoactive drugs and spiders, died Tuesday. He was 80.

Witt was born in Berlin and educated in Germany and Austria. While studying
medicine during World War II, he joined an underground group of doctors who
treated civilian casualties of the Allied bombing campaigns on German cities.

After the war he moved to Switzerland, where a Life magazine article drew the
world's attention to his work involving spiders. Witt had discovered that
psychoactive drugs such as LSD, psilocybin (psychedelic mushrooms) and
marijuana caused changes in the webs of a particular arachnid, the orb spider.

Witt was named executive director of the North Carolina Foundation of Mental
Health Research in 1966 and was director of research for the State Department
of Mental Health.



26 posted on 02/20/2004 9:48:13 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Destro
Like 23 said, this link wreaks of BS
27 posted on 02/20/2004 9:48:24 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Prime Choice
This a well known NASA study. Maybe you were on coffee when you searched the web?
28 posted on 02/20/2004 9:48:27 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I wonder what their webs look like after consuming nicotine or alcohol. Dare to keep spiders off of drugs!
29 posted on 02/20/2004 9:49:23 PM PST by sixmil
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Like 26
30 posted on 02/20/2004 9:49:27 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

31 posted on 02/20/2004 9:50:44 PM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: Destro
Let me know what facts you feel are in contention. Enjoy the pics.

Did you even READ my original message? Go back and read it again. Then read it once more. And, for full effect, read it AGAIN.

As I pointed out from the very start, I can find no evidence to support the claim that NASA does drug tests on any animals (arachnids include) that the author of this piece claims. NASA does do experiments on weightlessness in creatures. But I challenge anyone here to find a NASA.GOV site that puts forth this information.

This third-party site should at least have some kind of footnotes on its claims, but no such data is provided. That tells me that someone's either misremembering, or they're pulling these factoids out of their butt.

32 posted on 02/20/2004 9:50:57 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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33 posted on 02/20/2004 9:52:14 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
This a well known NASA study. Maybe you were on coffee when you searched the web?

Okay, fine. Prove me wrong. Show me a NASA.GOV site that has this information and claims that it was a NASA study.

I know people who work at NASA. All of them are tired of having the NASA name attached to crackpot claims.

34 posted on 02/20/2004 9:52:24 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: Prime Choice
Did the internet exist in the late 60s?
35 posted on 02/20/2004 9:53:13 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I've seen lots of things propped up as genuine news articles in my day...again, all without attribution. Why, there was even a brouhaha the other day about one Freeper who faked a picture of John Kerry next to Jane Fonda (caused quite a stir...I'd be surprised if you missed it).

As a conaequence, I find your image to be sorely lacking in terms of credibility.

Again...find a NASA.GOV site that holds this data or give it up.

36 posted on 02/20/2004 9:55:26 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: Destro
Did the internet exist in the late 60s?

Well if that didn't come out of left field...

Yes, the Internet existed in the late 1960s.

In fact, the Internet existed in the EARLY 1960s.

37 posted on 02/20/2004 9:57:38 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: Destro
There are things highly poisonous to bugs that don't faze humans, and vice versa. Using this as a test of toxicity to anything but spiders is fanciful at best.
38 posted on 02/20/2004 9:58:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Destro
Destro, sorry everybody is giving you crap, freaking out with "facts" in response to your post and calling you a "kid" in an effort to appear grown up themselves.

I enjoyed this, and found it fascinating. I have to question the veracity though. It would seem that caffeine results in the worst web. I have trouble believing that caffeine was the most toxic of all the test drugs!

39 posted on 02/20/2004 10:02:29 PM PST by bluefish
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Ahhh... yes. Different creatures, different effects. Even more damning than my prior observation regarding caffeine vs. the other drugs with regards to exposing this "article." It was still a fun read.
40 posted on 02/20/2004 10:05:08 PM PST by bluefish
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