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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment Eleven (The Battlegrounds)
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Posted on 02/23/2004 3:38:08 AM PST by Dales
Edited on 02/23/2004 5:31:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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To: Dales
Michigan and Pennsylvannia in the Dem column makes it tough to reach the threshold. Possible, obviously. But I'd be a lot more comfortable if either or both of those looked like they might be won.
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posted on
02/23/2004 8:12:49 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: Dales
Since 9/11 we have had two measures (elections) in NJ. The Gov's race was unfortunately never really competitive, but in the 2002 Senate race Forrester would have indeed beaten the incumbent Torricelli. I can't remember how many times I argued the numbers, and folks wouldn't believe me because of NJ's recent Presidential history. Granted, it was Torricelli's weakness and not Forrester's strength, but do note the Dems had to bring in a retired incumbent (illegally) to keep the seat. So maybe 2002 and its aftermath demonstrated a rightward shift. I dunno. But if so, NJ's got a good ways to shift. :-)
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posted on
02/23/2004 8:15:00 AM PST
by
Coop
("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
To: All
Tactics trump policy every single time. Who wins is who has people go to the polls and vote for him.
G O T V. If Nevada is vulnerable, then rent all the rental vans in Vegas and Reno and use them only to carry our people. Hit the phone banks. Make sure elderly veterans who are members of the VFW and American Legion have a way to the polls.
G O T V trumps policy every single time.
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posted on
02/23/2004 8:22:29 AM PST
by
Owen
To: Neets
Could you add me to the ping list. This is fantastic work.
Thanks.
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posted on
02/23/2004 8:32:52 AM PST
by
CougarGA7
(If termites could talk, they would call what they are doing to your house "Progress".)
To: CougarGA7
Got ya on the list!
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posted on
02/23/2004 8:35:00 AM PST
by
Neets
To: Owen
If Nevada is vulnerable, then rent all the rental vans in Vegas and Reno It might be too early for that; with enough lead time, supply can catch up to demand. They HAVE reserved enough vans for Republican use already, though. As for GOTV, BushCheney ain't raising big bucks for nuthin'.
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posted on
02/23/2004 9:01:10 AM PST
by
JohnnyZ
(People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
To: Coop; AntiGuv
[Coop writes] I agree, the two reports are curious. But I find the lack of objective comparisons of the two reports much more telling. I tend to think ground truth is closer to the lower number (household) than the higher (payrolls). Why? ..[snip]... As you say, the loud silence in the mainstream media regarding the household survey is important, and in the direction of the same old bias. Aside from that, the discrepancy is both interesting and important. One does indeed read various reasons to prefer the household survey. I wish and hope that it reflects the economy more accurately than the payroll report. However, I am not all that hopeful as Greenspan said something to the effect of all in all he thought the payroll report more reliable. While Greenspan is obviously not the only professional whose opinion is worth listening to, he does sit at the top of a web and has shown reasonable judgment before.
To: JohnnyZ
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It might be too early for that; with enough lead time, supply can catch up to demand. They HAVE reserved enough vans for Republican use already, though. As for GOTV, BushCheney ain't raising big bucks for nuthin'.
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Yes, it might be too early and supply could catch up. So we wait and then rent them all a few days ahead of when they are reserved by the Dems and then just turn them back in late.
All that money MUST NOT be spent on campaign manager salary. That's not why we're sending in money. We want it spent on GOTV. We want votes, not staff.
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posted on
02/23/2004 9:19:07 AM PST
by
Owen
To: Neets
Can you please add me to the ping list? Many thanks!
To: benjaminthomas
Sure thing.
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posted on
02/23/2004 9:32:09 AM PST
by
Neets
To: Dales
Excellent work. I think you modeled a plausible scenario. I think Bush has slightly more pad than you give him, but not much. I see Bush getting about 325 and giving the GOP about +5 in the House and +2 or +3 in The Senate.
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posted on
02/23/2004 10:02:48 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(At the end of the day, information has finite value and may only come at a significant price.)
To: Neets; Dales
Thank you, and you too Dales. :)
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posted on
02/23/2004 10:30:28 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Dales
I agree with every one of your predictions, especially NH and ME-02.
To: Dales
New Jersey may surprise some people. I am 30 miles from NYC. People here still remember 9/11 vividly and there are many who lost someone or who know somebody who did. I am heartened that at least a few dems I know say they will vote for Bush because he is actively fighting terror and they want to stay the course.
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posted on
02/23/2004 11:45:38 AM PST
by
XRdsRev
To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
QUICK what was the unemployment rate in 1984? In 1996?
Today it is 5.6% and falling.
IMHO the media is playing up 'no jobs' but the jobs situation is not really that dire. the economy is stonger than the media will acknolwedge. Hopefully the strength of the economy will become so obvious even the media wont be able to shrug it off.
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posted on
02/23/2004 11:45:42 AM PST
by
WOSG
(If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
Comment #96 Removed by Moderator
To: Coop
Another New Jersey angle ... prescription DRUG benefit.
The DRUG companies have major HQs in NJ. Giving the drug benefit is like giving a boon to the main state economy.
I bet he hammers on that issue in New Jersey. just a thought.
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posted on
02/23/2004 11:48:32 AM PST
by
WOSG
(If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
To: Coop
It is almost certainly the case that the household survey is the more accurate one during economic turnarounds like we have now.
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posted on
02/23/2004 11:52:14 AM PST
by
WOSG
(If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
To: WOSG
Interesting angle. Thanks
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posted on
02/23/2004 12:06:48 PM PST
by
Coop
("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry.)
To: erasmiapulchella
FWIW, I have both Wisconsin and Minnesota in the slight GOP column for now, but that's mostly just gut feeling. We shall see!
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posted on
02/23/2004 3:01:21 PM PST
by
AntiGuv
(When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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