War Is Declared (Li'l Andy Sullivan Hissy Alert)

AndrewSullivan.com -- The Daily Dish ^ | 2/24/04 | Andrew Sullivan

[onedoug]

The ancient Hebrews channeling male sexuality into heterosexual marriage laid the cornerstone for Western civilization.

The antithesis is just that.

[Rokke]

Hey Andy, shaaaddddup

[King Black Robe]

Andrew has no real foundation to stand on.

[Grut]

Well, I am with Sullivan on this: however desirable or undesirable gay marriage is, it is up to the states to decide. Conservatives who are in favor of the Marriage Amendment are as guilty of anti-federalism as Liberals would be if they proposed an amendment mandating gay marriage.

[Rutles4Ever]

He is proposing to remove civil rights from one group of American citizens - and do so in the Constitution itself.

Gov't recognized marriage is NOT a civil right. A gov't issued LICENSE is required. You can't just up and marry if you want to marry a child or more than one person or a goat. It's a PRIVELEGE in secular and constitutional terms. A religiously recognized marriage is out of the realm of the gov't, but there are few churches that recognize gay marriages, and those are not entitled to gov't recognition.

[Erik Latranyi]

Rather than allow the contentious and difficult issue of equal marriage rights to be fought over in the states, rather than let politics and the law take their course.....

What do these arrogant bastards know about the law?!

It is their very contempt for the law that forces us to seek an amendment!!!

[Betaille]

"The message could not be plainer: these citizens do not fully belong in America."

He has absolutely nothing with which to back this up. He is just using the most alarmist language possible out of desperation. And by the way how does this hurt the families of gay people?

[Soundman4x4]

Little Andy just wants Our President to agree with his ""lifestyle."" If Bush gets this country back to it's CHRISTIAN roots he will have no problem getting reelected.

[Dane]

Conservatives who are in favor of the Marriage Amendment are as guilty of anti-federalism as Liberals would be if they proposed an amendment mandating gay marriage.

Huh, I guess you are in favor for Mass. same sex marriage licenses to be valid in Idaho, where they are against same sex marriage.

[GiveEmDubya]

I wouldn't worry about him. I think he'll gain more people on this issue than he'll lose.

[Betaille]

"Conservatives who are in favor of the Marriage Amendment are as guilty of anti-federalism"

Absolutely not true. Even the strictest federalists agree that some things are so fundamental that they must be put in the constitution. If the founding fathers had even the foggiest notion that marriage would be under attack the way it is now, this wo uld already be in the constitution.

[beaversmom]

Sorry Mr. Sullivan. I agree with you on some things, but with this you can't spin it to suit your own agenda. Homosexuals started this assault--they drew first blood. Traditional marriage defenders are doing just that--they are defending what is in the best interest of this country.

[sandpit]

Someone please help! I have steam coming out of my ears after a 15 min gay fest,Bush-bashing session by my coworkers. It took every bit of patience I had (and I don't have much) not to explode in anger. I would have lost my job!
I think it's going to be a 2 martini lunch.

[Mad Dawg]

Somebody has to say it:

Homosexuals are not being discriminated against. They are as free to marry a person of the opposite sex as anybody else is.

They are not free to marry a person of the same sex anymore than a person who doesn't like corners is free to draw a square without them. A square has to have corners to be a square. A marriage has to have two persons, one each of either sex, to be a marriage. Corners aren't enough to make a figure a square, and two persons, one each of either sex aren't enough to make a marriage. But without corners there is no square ... and so forth.

As it happens, some heterosexuals find themselves sexually attracted to people who are their spouses. This is not always the case. Kings often have not been permitted to marry those for whom they felt romantic affection. I wonder what per centage of all marriages in history were entirely at the choice of the couple who chose on the basis of affection. My guess is not many were like that.

But, it seems, for homosexuals, sexual attraction and affection are the most important thing. What they call marriage and what we know to be marriage are two very different things.

[beaversmom]

That's what I was thinking--it's not a civil right.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

The president launched a war today against the civil rights of gay citizens and their families.

Andrew is simply wrong.

The secular religion of liberalism continues to attack the laws of this nation.

The flatheaded mayor of San Francisco breaks the laws of the state because liberalism protects him.

A rogue court in Massachussetts orders the legislature to make law.

Looks like it's high time for a revolution in this country.

When the rule of law starts to break down a shakeup of the troublemakers is far overdue.

Time to remove the bums who disobey their oaths of office!

If the silent majority were to get pissed enough to riot, the cathartic cultural cleansing that followed would be a work of art.

[MrB]

Sorry, Sullivan, the Constitution is no refuge for the likes of you leftists.

It rings hollow when you invoke it.

Leftists only feign respect for the Constitution when they try to use it to justify their consequence free abberant behavior - otherwise they treat it with utmost contempt and disdain.

They are nowhere to be found when it comes to respecting the Constitutional limitations on the powers of government and the rights of the individual over the rights of the state.

[Sister_T]

Here!

Some cheese to go with his WHINE!

You labelled this article right. Hissy-fit indeed! What a crybaby! Hey, Andrew! You have the right to marry. No one is stopping you from marrying a person of the OPPOSITE GENDER so stop your whining!

[Betaille]

"Someone please help! I have steam coming out of my ears after a 15 min gay fest,Bush-bashing session by my coworkers."

I am already moving back down south. I just don't understand the way people think in some parts of the country. On that note however, I think that if this becomes a major wedge issue between kerry and Bush... Bush will win a significant portion of the black vote. Why were there no African-Americans at the "African Americans for Dean" rally? Why are there so few African Americans at Kerry rallies? Face it, most African Americans have never hated bush the way most democrats do.