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Girl Spanked in Front of Classmates at High School
Associated Press ^ | February 24, 2004

Posted on 02/24/2004 10:53:44 AM PST by wallcrawlr

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To: wallcrawlr
So the father thinks it's okay to physically discipline and humiliate a teenage girl in front of her peers. And this girl is disrupting class. Apparently, the apple doesn't fall far...
81 posted on 02/24/2004 11:49:52 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: wallcrawlr
Misjudgement on the father's part. Besides not meting out private punishment, he is now on the radar screen of the human svcs. dept. which can't be good, and might be bad for future reference.

vaudine
82 posted on 02/24/2004 11:50:25 AM PST by vaudine
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To: wallcrawlr
I've worked as a substitute at a local high school and junior high school and I can tell you it's bad, especially in the junior high school. Most of the kids who seriously want to learn and go on to college get into advanced placement classes in high school. These are the classes where the kids can get dual high school and college credit if they take the A/P exams before going into college. The lower level classes in math and science are pretty much a joke, the kids know it and take advantage of the situation.

If a teacher has to discipline a child, it's the teacher who gets called in to the principal's office. I've got a friend who teaches 4 sections (25-30 students per section) of regular high school "social studies". After the Christmas break she had 52 students with F's for failure to turn in homework assignments. That's almost half her students. We aren't talking about hard assignments and the kids were given more than one opportunity to turn in their work. She was frantic to try to find a way to pass these kids who REFUSED to turn in their work so she wouldn't have to turn in failing grades for them. She knew if she did there would be complaints from the parents and the administration. SHE would be the one to get in trouble. It's the dumbing down of America folks. The kids didn't worry because they knew that she would have to pass them.

The discipline of children begins with teaching them a belief and reverence for God (something greater than themselves), respect for oneself, respect in the home and respect for others in authority and personal responsibility for one's own actions. These things are obviously absent in many homes throughout our nation.

I never had to spank my child and was never called in to address disciplinary problems regarding my daughter during her whole school career. I will admit that she was an "easy child" who never gave me one minute of trouble. I believe that was, in part, a result of the way that we raised her. She is 21 now and ranked in the top 3% of college students in the country.

While I applaud the father for making the effort to discipline this child, it may too little too late if she reached high school age and still needed to be spanked. There are times when spanking is warranted but the problem with repetitive corporal punishment is that if the child survives the first round it has to be so repugnant that the child will not want to repeat the behavior. If the behavior continues you, as the one administering the punishment, have to make the next punishment worse in order to stop the behavior.

83 posted on 02/24/2004 11:51:05 AM PST by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws and return DUE PROCESS to our citizens))
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To: blowfish
Expressing your opinion is one thing, but much of the criticism here borders on approval of nanny state child-rearing.

Frankly I just wanted you to know that in a free country your opinion on situations like this means squat.
84 posted on 02/24/2004 11:52:37 AM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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To: the invisib1e hand
make that two.

my pop would have figured if I felt I could embarrass myself in class being a jerk, I wouldn't mind if he embarrassed me in class straightening me out.

if I didn't want to be embarrassed in class by my dad, I should embarrass myself acting like a jerk.
85 posted on 02/24/2004 11:52:58 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous. T.B.)
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To: prion
Man, I thought my parents were embarrassing.

It doesn't sound like much of spanking from they way they descibe it. It was more a message than anything.

Dad was telling her, "Pull this crap again, make me come to this school again, and I'll spank you in front of your friends again!" Ouch!

86 posted on 02/24/2004 11:53:03 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: optimistically_conservative
What he did doesn't teach humility- - -that's the whole point.
88 posted on 02/24/2004 11:53:49 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: blowfish
Listen. /sarcasm
89 posted on 02/24/2004 11:54:11 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: Cicero
Humiliation is a great motivator.
90 posted on 02/24/2004 11:54:25 AM PST by BOOTSTICK
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To: GigaDittos
Realplayer could not locate the clip. Sorry.
91 posted on 02/24/2004 11:54:51 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: judgeandjury
See my post #68. There are lots of ways to punish.
92 posted on 02/24/2004 11:57:02 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: American_Centurion
IMO important point most are missing, unless this kid is physically harmed (abused) then whatever he did do his daughter is none of your freaking business whatsoever.His kid, his rules, everyone else butt the hell out.

You're saying that we shouldn't be commenting on an article that is posted on FR? It's not like we're advocating going up to this guy and telling him how to raise his kid. What is the point of having a news forum if we don't discuss these types of issues? Are we "butting in" merely by expressing our opinions on a public forum?
94 posted on 02/24/2004 11:57:43 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: wallcrawlr
``The students were horrified,''

I bet they were!! Most have never felt the sting of the bare hand or leather belt across the buttocks. ...or the horror of having your parent come into your classroom for any reason.

95 posted on 02/24/2004 11:59:08 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Stone Mountain
Maybe not, but the way some here are calling the father names indicates to me that they would support state intervention for simply disciplining his child.

How does one know this father isn't a Freeper? IMO it is extremely bad form to criticise any parents technique barring outright abuse.
96 posted on 02/24/2004 12:00:08 PM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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To: wallcrawlr
this strikes me (pun intended) as classic "do as i say, not as i do" ... the child disrupts the class and then the dad punishes the child by disrupting the class ...
97 posted on 02/24/2004 12:00:11 PM PST by southern bale
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To: wallcrawlr
Want to permanently ruin your relationship with your child?

Humiliate them. Treat them like dirt. That's a good start.
98 posted on 02/24/2004 12:02:18 PM PST by rogueleader
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To: dead
LOL!
99 posted on 02/24/2004 12:02:25 PM PST by cmsgop ( HAS ANYONE SEEN Spalding Grey ??)
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To: American_Centurion
Frankly I just wanted you to know that in a free country your opinion on situations like this means squat.

That would hold true for about 99.9% of the posts on FreeRepublic. They're just expressions of opinion.

Expressing your opinion is one thing, but much of the criticism here borders on approval of nanny state child-rearing.

And luckily we now have a posting-watchdog to tell us when we should STFU. How nice.

100 posted on 02/24/2004 12:06:56 PM PST by blowfish
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