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Muzzling Gun Sales
The Journal News.com ^ | 2/24/2004 | Editorial

Posted on 02/24/2004 1:21:27 PM PST by kimber

The American public should know that a small number of federally licensed gun dealers supplied one of every five guns traced to crimes nationwide yet remain in business. People should know that guns used in 52 fatal shootings and other crimes were traced to one gun shop in Washington state that already had multiple violations of the law. That was before the same shop sold the rifle used by convicted Washington, D.C., sniper John Muhammad and teenage sidekick Lee Malvo to kill 16 people in five states in 2002.

The public won't have access to this information anymore because Congress last month barred the release of such data to the public in the latest cave-in to the gun lobby. A little-publicized measure attached to a spending bill that funds major government agencies forbids the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives from making public information about the AFT's records on tracing the source of guns used in crimes. Law enforcement agencies still have access to tracing information, but not the public.

The gun lobby and the Bush administration said public release of such information regarding gun dealers could compromise police investigations and be used to unfairly target some dealers. There is nothing unfair about telling the public that one-fifth of the 373,006 guns traced to crimes between 1996 and 2000 were sold by just 120 of the nation's 105,048 licensed gun dealers. Those figures were compiled by the Americans for Gun Safety Foundation and released in a report last month. It embarrassed the government because nothing was, or is, being done to revoke the licenses of dealers with bad records. Instead, the government chose to muzzle the information source to prevent future reports.

Such studies are not new, although the information in them is typically old. For example, in 2001, 1.2 percent of licensed gun dealers accounted for 57 percent of the guns traced from 1998 crime scenes, the AFT said. At the time, the idea was to trace crime-guns back to the source and shut it down. Apparently, no longer. What better way to spotlight gun dealers whose sales are repeatedly linked to crime guns than by releasing tracing records?

This is especially important to New York, which has among the toughest gun-control laws in the nation. Yet the AFT estimates that 90 percent of the guns used in crimes in the metropolitan areas are brought into the state illegally. It is illegal to bring a gun into New York from outside the state.

The information ban was enforced for the first time earlier this month when a Freedom of Information Act request by The Associated Press for certain gun records was rejected by the AFT.

"This is all part of a calculated strategy to basically shut off the flow of information," Dennis Henigan, legal director for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, told the AP. "It's an effort to make sure that lawmakers, scholars, cities and the general public not have access to information that could actually inform public policy."

That's not a good sign in a year when the federal ban on assault weapons is up for renewal, and the Senate is considering a bill that would immunize gun manufacturers and dealers from lawsuits stemming from crimes in which guns were used


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KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; gunssales
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1 posted on 02/24/2004 1:21:27 PM PST by kimber
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To: kimber
This is BS since it only traces the guns to the shops where they were originally sold. It doesn't trace them after that, through private sales whatever. And rightfully so. The gubmint doesn't have any damn business knowing who I buy my guns from or who I sell them to.
2 posted on 02/24/2004 1:27:30 PM PST by P8riot (A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body.)
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To: kimber
I dream of a world where the ATF runs a chain of drive through stores where we can buy all three of the items they regulate and be able use them all before we get home.</sarcasm>
3 posted on 02/24/2004 1:28:03 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
Actually they regulate explosives now too. Yahooo!!!< /sarcasm>
4 posted on 02/24/2004 1:29:57 PM PST by P8riot (A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body.)
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To: kimber
I have it on good authority that a liquor store near me is responsible for over 50 DWI's over the last few years. True story!
5 posted on 02/24/2004 1:34:32 PM PST by Monty22
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To: P8riot
Oh yeah...I forgot. Why waste hours with stump grinding when a little "Vitamin D" (Dynamite) will do the trick.

6 posted on 02/24/2004 1:39:55 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: kimber
"This is all part of a calculated strategy to basically shut off the flow of information" spread lies and destroy the Constitution by HCI.
7 posted on 02/24/2004 1:43:49 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: *bang_list
Bang
8 posted on 02/24/2004 1:56:53 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: kimber
Good news.

who has the bang list?
9 posted on 02/24/2004 1:57:23 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: RKV
I see Kerry rated 100 percent by HCI.
10 posted on 02/24/2004 2:06:49 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kimber
Yet the AFT estimates that 90 percent of the guns used in crimes in the metropolitan areas are brought into the state illegally. It is illegal to bring a gun into New York from outside the state.

Kinda says it all. Proves that criminals will not let a little thing like the law stop them from commiting crimes. It only makes it easier for them since their victims are defenseless.

11 posted on 02/24/2004 2:11:20 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Liberals are guilty of everything they accuse Conservatives of.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Its the three "G"'s.


Kerry also has a 100% from homosexual rights group Human Rights Coalition.

We just have to figure out his positionS on god.
12 posted on 02/24/2004 2:14:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: kimber
A little-publicized measure attached to a spending bill that funds major government agencies forbids the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives from making public information about the AFT's records on tracing the source of guns used in crimes. Law enforcement agencies still have access to tracing information, but not the public the Brady bunch, the VPC and we anti-gun nuts in the press.

Rush is right. These people are much more entertaining when they're out of power!

13 posted on 02/24/2004 2:15:34 PM PST by absalom01
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To: kimber
Snoreeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Same ole anti-gun, socialist, liberal, leftist, communist propaganda! Never changes.
14 posted on 02/24/2004 2:22:29 PM PST by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hi Eric, Nice to hear from you again. Yeah, I may not buy into the Bush/Rove "triangulation" on the (so-called) Assault Weapon Ban, but Kerry is a REAL loser.
15 posted on 02/24/2004 2:26:27 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: RetiredArmy
This is different is a big way. Make no mistake.

this is not Gun rights complaining about a new law or our rights limited.

THIS IS GUN GRABBERS COMPLAINING ABOUT GOVERNMENT (GASP!) PROTECTING OWNER PRIVACY. (DOUBLE GASP!)

This is a HUGE difference from just a short FOUR YEARS AGO.
16 posted on 02/24/2004 2:27:51 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: P8riot
An' doncha' just love how they foist garbled scientific data that has nothing to do with crimes committed whatsoever on an extremely impressionable public?
17 posted on 02/24/2004 2:29:26 PM PST by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy
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To: kimber
This is especially important to New York, which has among the toughest gun-control laws in the nation.

Should I move to New York?

It sounds like it must be a wonderfully safe pace with all these anti-gun laws. Too bad that New York did not outlaw the flying of airplanes into buildings. 9/11 could have been avoided with a simple law.

18 posted on 02/24/2004 2:34:21 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: kimber
For example, in 2001, 1.2 percent of licensed gun dealers accounted for 57 percent of the guns traced from 1998 crime scenes, the AFT said.

The most likely explanation is that 1.2 percent of gun dealers account for more than 57 percent of guns sold.

I got my first shotgun from K-Mart's sporting goods dept. I have a feeling that KMart probably has one FFL license for the corporation itself, and that one license probably accounts for a decent percentage of guns sold in the US. Add to that the other chains that sell guns, and you have a big number

19 posted on 02/24/2004 2:34:57 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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To: P8riot
Wasn't the DC sniper rifle shoplifted, not sold. I know the dealer couldn't account for a number of firearms.
20 posted on 02/24/2004 5:24:34 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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