What the ?? Fox News Says David Dreier and Tom DeLay Won't Support Amendment to Define Marriage?

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[VRWC_minion]

Calm down, were being spun.

[deport]

Could they not have gotten their ducks in a row before Bush stuck his neck out? what a stupid, stupid party.

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Do you know that they didn't?

[CA Conservative]

No court has struck the Defense of Marriage Act, has it?

As I stated before, no court has struck down DOMA because no challenge can be mounted yet. To make a claim, someone must have standing to challenge the law, someone who has suffered or will suffer harm if the law is upheld. Since no state yet allows legal marriage for gays, there is no injured party yet. Once Mass. has it's first legally married gay couple, the next stop will be the federal courthouse.

[HostileTerritory]

Actually, I think Tom Delay has made noises like this before. My impression was that his interpretation of conservatism leads him to strongly respect the integrity of the Constitution as it is and avoid amendments when possible. It is possible I am mistaken.

Note: I am not defending this point of view.

[jwalsh07]

Its not that simple Ambrose. What you are looking at is the biggest expansion of government ever. You think the drug bill was a big expansion of government? Ha!

When states pass homosexual marriage laws or civil union laws, equal protection will guarantee those folks access to all the government goodies, SS, medicare, medicaid, SS surviors benefits.

The federal government has to deal with this now. If the morons would simply open thier eyes they would see that 4 justices in Massachusetts forced their elitist cultural agenda down the htroats of the citizens there and made homosexual "marraige" a fait accompli with never a vote being cast by any legislator.

If you don't think SCOTUS will do the same, you're living in fantasyland. And if you don't believ my take on it, then read Scalias take on it. His dissent in Lawrence has been prophetic.

[wylenetheconservative]

"The same holds true for David Dreier's district as well. It's a heavily GOP area."

Not true. Drier has seen his re-elect numbers go steadily down. He now regularly wins with less than 60%. I think Bush only won his district narrowly in 2000. He represents a closer-in suburban area of LA, and latinos are flooding the district. He will probably start having serious competitors within 6 years or so as the latinos continue to move in and whites move out.

[Solson]

These were absolutely IDIOTIC statements by both Dreier and Delay. Of course Bush will support a test of the Defense of Marriage Act. However, Bush came out supporting this amendment today knowing full well the courts will shoot down the Defense of Marriage Act.

The GOP needs to get their shit together. What a disaster for Dreier and Delay to come out on the same side as JOHN F'ING KERRY TODAY! Geeze!

[longtermmemmory]

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Congressman Tom DeLay

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Anyone have an email?

http://www.house.gov does not list one.

please help find email.

[jwalsh07]

He has already felt my heat. I'm on his go to list when they need money to fund something or other. I just called him and told him to take me off the damn "go to" list and my only regret was that I didn't live in his district so I could vote against him in a primary.

[gakrak]

Then tell me your better idea or method to stop this abomination.

[longtermmemmory]

I have seen him on cspan. he airbrushed the picture to show less weight.

[CA Conservative]

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a Texas Republican, said amending the Constitution should not be attempted in haste and only after other legal alternatives were tried.

Tom used to be my congresscritter, and I have a lot of respect for him, but this is just ridiculous. By the time this goes through the courts, there will be thousands of married gay people. How much harder will it be for the courts to invalidate the marriages of those people at that point? How much easier will it be for the other side to make the argument that the FMA would "break up intact families"? If we are not going to do this now, we might as well accept gay marriage as a fact of life right now - later will be TOO late. Once this becomes common, you can't go back. You can't put toothpaste back into the tube.

[wylenetheconservative]

Delay has to fall in line on this. This issue will be the defining issue of the fall campaign if the GOP will exploit it, but the party has to get its ducks in a row. A 240 seat House delegation and a filibuster proof majority are within reach if this homosexual marriage issue is played to the bone.

[VRWC_minion]

This quote from Delay goes back to November when he was pusing the DOMA and said the constitutional amendment is too soon. Who knows what he says today.

[jwalsh07]

If Congress had the cojones to do this, the courts could not intervene, under the separation of powers doctrine.

If pigs could fly we'd all be walking around with pigsh%t on our heads.

Pigs don't fly and the political will does not exist in Congress to order judges off marriage.

[VRWC_minion]

DeLAY SEEKING CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, CURBS ON JUDICIAL AUTHORITY IN EFFORT TO VOID PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RULING


Web Posted: March 11, 2003
ouse Majority Leader Tom DeLay has announced plans to remove the federal courts' jurisdiction to rule on the constitutionality of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.

"Congress for so long has been lax in standing up for the Constitution," the Texas Republican told reporters last week. "There are ways to express ourselves. For instance, we could limit the jurisdiction of the judicial branch."

DeLay said that under interpretation of Article III, Section 2 of the U.S.Constitution, Congress would presumably have the power to go as far as impeaching judges.

"I think that would be a very good idea to send a message to the judiciary they ought to keep their hands off the Pledge of Allegiance," DeLay blustered

[hobson]

I didn't hear him mention Delay. Are you sure about that?

[Cboldt]

Delay has to fall in line on this. This issue will be the defining issue of the fall campaign if the GOP will exploit it, but the party has to get its ducks in a row.

I happen to agree with Delay on this one. And while this is a vital social issue, there are other ways to address it. The elction is a long way off, and there are many issues in the mix.

If it's tough to get the GOP and RNC sing in harmony now, just wait 'til the GOP has the White House and 70% of the Congress!

[jwalsh07]

What a disaster for Dreier and Delay to come out on the same side as JOHN F'ING KERRY TODAY! Geeze!

Oh, absolutely. If they did this, my party is indeed the STUPIDEST Party and shortly to be somebody elses party.

[Tempest]

depends on how it's written. I think perhaps you maybe a little too cynical about this.