What the ?? Fox News Says David Dreier and Tom DeLay Won't Support Amendment to Define Marriage?

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[Recovering_Democrat]

Can someone PLEASE explain to me? President Bush comes out on the RIGHT side of the culture war, to save marriage (whatever you might think of the Constitutional Amendment idea) and TWO of the biggest Republicans in the HOUSE are already poo-poohing the idea!!

I don't really care to hear Bush bashing or Republican Party bashing in general...I'd really LOVE to hear some ideas on why these guys aren't coming out and saying some GOOD things.

Geez, Bill Clinton was wrong on SO MUCH, and his party marched in lockstep to defend him nearly everyday. Today, finding a member of the leadership rushing to defend this President is like looking for hen's teeth.

[John Lenin]

Bush is going to look like a dunce on this if he's not careful.

[jwalsh07]

The Defense of Marriage Act ensures that homo marriages in Vermont don't have to be recognized by Alabama.

BS.

[Guillermo]

The Constitutions Full Faith and Credit clause trumps any Federal law.

Homosexual "marriage," among other things, is one state being able to dictate to all others a changing of the definition of one of the oldest and fundamental institutions on earth.

It's a shame that it's come to this (even debating homosexual "marriage" shows how low we've sunk), but an amendment is the only way to stop one court or one state from making homosexual "marriage" legal all over the USA.

[zook]

amendment, excuse me. must learn to spell.

[cyncooper]

This isn't much info to go on...

[CA Conservative]

Use Article III of the Constitution to restrict the purview of the federal courts.

I don't see any bills being pushed by these Congressmen to do as you suggest. Not a bad idea, but irrelevant if no one in Congress will help pass it as a law...

[international american]

BTTT

[longtermmemmory]

This is the senate and house committees that have the Federal Marriage Amendment.
This is at http://www.house.gov and http://www.senate.gov
These members count the letters of support.
Click on the links, enter zip, and EMAIL YOUR REPS!!!!!
IT IS FREEP TIME!!!

There are now enough states to pass this due to the fact
they individually have DOMA's.
The FMA will take the Federal Gov. out of the marriage
definition game and put it to state legislatures.
This includes Federally making marriage one man one woman for immigration matters.

These members count the letters of support.
Homosexual special interest groups are trying to organize letter campaigns.
This includes Internet and (oddly enough) nightclubs.

This is very doable.

 

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BELOW IS THE SENATE COMMITTEE WITH THE COMPANION BILL

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Orrin G. Hatch CHAIRMAN, UTAH	Patrick J. Leahy RANKING DEMOCRATIC MEMBER, VERMONT
Charles E. Grassley IOWA	Edward M. Kennedy MASSACHUSETTS
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 BELOW IS A FORM LETTER TO SEND TO THE SENATORS AND HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES

RE: Support in favor of the Federal Marriage Amendment
H.J. Res. 56 and S.J. Res. 26

Dear [ Decision Maker ]

I support the Federal marriage amendment. As your constituent I urge your support to amend the Constitution. Specifically, please cosponsor support H.J. Res. 56 and S.J. Res. 26 when these resolutions should come up for a vote. As you constituent I urge your support to amend the Constitution. Specifically, please cosponsor support H.J. Res. 56 and S.J. Res. 26 when these resolutions should come up for a vote.

This amendment will remove the courts from redefining the marriage based on social activist judges. This will also protect our state from any actions taken or will be taken in any other state. Private sexual behavior should not be the standard which defines marriage. Marriage is a public institution which is how we raise and support societies children. This institution needs protecting by putting into the Constitution what we have today.

This is not the first time the constitution has been used for social issues. All of the Constitution is based on various social issues. This only codifies what exists now.

This amendment will remove the Federal Government from this issue and return this topic to the individual state legislatures.

Any same sex couple has the legal right to make a private cohabitation agreement, they have the right make powers of attorney and have the right to make health care surrogate directives. These form documents are readily available for nominal cost or free on the Internet. Non of these agreements require any special lawyer help. Marriage under the law is one man and one woman. There is no sexual behavior test. Homosexual rantings to the contrary, their opposition is only attempting to impose public acceptance on what should remain a private consensual behavior.

Please support the support H.J. Res. 56 and S.J. Res. 26, amend the Constitution and protect marriage.

Sincerely,
[Your name]
[Your address]

[John Lenin]

You have equal protection and interstate commerce to worry about if it's a states rights issue.

[CaptainLou]

It sounds like politics at work here. Bush announces his support knowing that the Congress won't pass it. This allows him to appeal to Conservatives while knowing that the bill doesn't stand a chance of passing.

The last time this approach was tried was for campaign finance reform.

[zook]

Does "FF&C" give me the right to use my concealed carry permit in NY? If not, why not?

[hgro]

Cookey judges sure as hell can't be allowed to make law. That is what is happening right now, that and dippy mayors ignoring laws on the books. That mayor of San Francisco should be looking out from behind bars right now. Why isn't he. Governor Palmer isn't upholding his oath of office.

[Dane]

This is from Reuters.

U.S. Rep. David Dreier of California, a member of the Republican leadership in the House of Representatives, said he would not support an amendment.

"I believe this should go through the courts, and I think we are at a point where this is not necessary," Dreier said.

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a Texas Republican, said amending the Constitution should not be attempted in haste and only after other legal alternatives were tried.

Among those alternatives is a court test of the Defence of Marriage Act signed into law by President Bill Clinton, which says states are not obligated to recognise same-sex marriages allowed in other states

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[international american]

Pretty cynical, I hope you are wrong.

[longtermmemmory]

It is also irrelevant because no Judges is going to rule in favor of reducing their power.

Not realistic. The FMA is a logical and prudent response.

[Recovering_Democrat]

The Defense of Marriage Act ensures that homo marriages in Vermont don't have to be recognized by Alabama.

What does one do with the "full faith and credit" clause of the Constitution??

[ambrose]

The Constitutions Full Faith and Credit clause trumps any Federal law.

No court has struck the Defense of Marriage Act, has it?

This amendment is akin to using a bazooka to kill a fly.

[CA Conservative]

The Defense of Marriage Act ensures that homo marriages in Vermont don't have to be recognized by Alabama.

Until the 9th Circus oveturns DOMA on the Full Faith and Credit Clause... They are already planning this attack. DOMA has not been challenged because you first have to have gays with a marriage that is legally recognized in one state in order to sue for recognition in another state. Do you really trust the courts to uphold DOMA? The same courts that gave us Roe v. Wade, Lawrence v. Texas and upheld campaign finance reform? You have a lot more faith in them than I do.

[Dolphy]

The Defense of Marriage Act ensures that homo marriages in Vermont don't have to be recognized by Alabama.

And what happens if someone goes to the Supreme Court to challenge this?