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Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue gets sixth-grader suspended
foxsports.com ^ | 02/25/04 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/24/2004 9:59:34 PM PST by Destro

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To: Bonaparte
The schools are entrusted with the community's children and are (or should be) held to a higher standard than the general public at pools and beaches.

So you do want public schools to establish what a "standard" is....as long as it's what YOU define as "standard".

SI is a sports magazine. Did it ever occur to anyone (like you) that that's why he had one that just happened to have swimsuits in it?

41 posted on 02/25/2004 6:47:37 AM PST by lewislynn (The successful globalist employee will be the best educated, working for the lowest possible wage.)
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To: lewislynn
SI is a sports magazine.

What sports are in the swimsuit issue?

So you do want public schools to establish what a "standard" is....as long as it's what YOU define as "standard".

Huh? You want to give a free license to 12 year old boys what's approriate to bring into school? Bringing in the swimsuit issue is okay for high school students, but not for those that just entered the junior high school.
42 posted on 02/25/2004 7:16:29 AM PST by lelio
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To: Flyer
Well, exactly. But seems from my reading her attitude was immediately confrontational instead of apologetic. Typical of parenting today that the child is coddled instead of made to bear the responsibility for his action.

The principal probably overreacted to a smartass kid. But the mom should have reacted knowing full well that the principal was within his rights to suspend the kid after that. She should have made him apologize at the least.

This will not end well for the kid at all, and all because the mom thought she was protecting the kid by shielding him from reality, which is, you don't bring near-porn to school, wave it around with pride, and then expect everyone to be happy about it--usually those running the joint won't be with ANY distraction, let alone one that PC teachers will be crawling up the walls over.
43 posted on 02/25/2004 7:23:53 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (THIS TAGLINE VETTED BY THE TSA...it was sharp and had a point before they got to it.)
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To: lelio
Given your last reply, it's obvious you've never read one. You might consider knowing WTF you are railing against before you do so. Some of us do read the articles.
44 posted on 02/25/2004 7:27:01 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Mostly because we have to, since the other pages kind of stick together.)
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To: Bonaparte
What list of materials do I get to choose from? It's way better than "Heather Has Two Mommies." :)
45 posted on 02/25/2004 7:28:56 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Mostly because we have to, since the other pages kind of stick together.)
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To: lelio
"It's not like it was Hustler, Playboy or Penthouse," Reyes said. ... Way to turn that frown upside down! Ah, the day a parent defends her kid by saying "Hey, it wasn't Hustler!" [post 9]

Actually, it is closer to Playboy than most people think, there are ten pages of nudes covered with body paint in this "swimsuit" edition.

46 posted on 02/25/2004 7:32:12 AM PST by berserker
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47 posted on 02/25/2004 8:14:14 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Mostly because we have to, since the other pages kind of stick together.)
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To: lelio
Not suspension offense for 3 days??? A letter ome to advise parents and that is all--along with the returned magazine.
48 posted on 02/25/2004 10:31:10 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Bonaparte
You don't get it - the schools "right" (no such thing) is a thinly concealed fiminazi agenda The 12-year-old boy had the magazine in the gymnasium at Belpre Middle School before classes Feb. 18, and the principal cited him for violating the school's policy on nonverbal harassment and possession of lewd or suggestive material or the agenda of religous whackos but more so leftist.
49 posted on 02/25/2004 10:33:59 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
"This story sounds like its from 1988."

No, in 1988 there would never be a question about a kid bringing SI to school. At most a teacher would have copped it and held it until the end of the day.

SI is not a porno mag, nor does it constitute sexual harrassment, not even the swim suit issue. A kid has a right to possess it, even in school. This principal is absolutely nuts and this is just another example of the insanity of bureaucratic zero tolerance policies. I will bet you good money that SI is in this school's library, if not the elementary school, then certainly the high school.
50 posted on 02/25/2004 10:36:40 AM PST by zook
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To: LibertarianInExile
What list of materials do I get to choose from? It's way better than "Heather Has Two Mommies." :)

To my mind, it's all trash and school kids shouldn't be exposed to it, certainly not on school grounds. There are some here who will trash a principal because, for once, he's willing to do the right thing and follow a sensible and decent policy. Whether "feminazis," for reasons of their own, happen to agree (or disagree) with that policy is irrelevant to me. The schools have no more business condoning the Reyes material than they do promoting the homosexual agenda or subjecting children to forced vaginal examinations or teaching children things like "fisting" -- all of which they have done and are doing.

51 posted on 02/25/2004 2:41:52 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: zook
"SI is not a porno mag."
    But its swimsuit edition contains lurid photos of females in various suggestive states of undress. And it is the SI swimsuit edition that is under discusion in this thread (in case you didn't notice), not Sports Illustrated.

    por·nog·ra·phy n.

    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal. The presentation or production of this material.

    2. Lurid or sensational material.


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See also posts 28, 29, 46.

Reyes did not bring his "show-and-tell" to school because he and his friends had a common interest in techniques of glamor photography or because they shared an academic interest in human anatomy. Contrary to what you have claimed, children do not have a "right" to possess sexually explicit or suggestive materials on school grounds and there is nothing in the law that gives them that right.

52 posted on 02/25/2004 2:58:13 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
When I saw this year's SI I thought that the new bikinis didn't include tops. Here is one of the more covered up gals.


53 posted on 02/25/2004 3:12:26 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Biz hundert azoi ve tsvantsik)
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To: Destro
The current issue of Rolling Stone contains a picture of Janet Jackson with exposed breast. I'll bet there are lots of copies of that mag all over schools, moving under the radar of oblibious teachers and principals.
54 posted on 02/25/2004 3:23:31 PM PST by Cooter
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To: Destro
"Last time I checked, we were in charge of running the schools," Swarr said.

Whatever you say, Herr Swarr.

55 posted on 02/25/2004 3:29:46 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Destro
the principal cited him for violating the school's policy on nonverbal harassment

Who the heck did the boy harass?

56 posted on 02/25/2004 3:31:52 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: xm177e2
sports illustrated should sue the school for calling the magazine "lewd material" and making it known nationally.

hell, SI swimsuit shows more now than playboy did when i was 12.
57 posted on 02/25/2004 3:34:23 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: lewislynn
So you do want public schools to establish what a "standard" is?
    I want schools to follow those standards of decency and decorum that support the development of character and respect in the children who will be our next generation. There are, unfortunately, many who condone and even applaud the "standards" of Bill Clinton and Larry Flynnt. It is because of them that grammar school kids are now giving eachother oral sex on school buses.
"SI is a sports magazine. Did it ever occur to anyone (like you) that that's why he had one that just happened to have swimsuits in it?"
    Utterly disingenuous statement.

58 posted on 02/25/2004 3:38:46 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
One of the fellows carried a SI swimsuit issue in to work a couple of years ago. I of course gave it a look over and I was surprised how much these mags actually show. I saw pubic hair in one photograph.

So, I have to say this one goes to the teacher and principle is correct in his corrective measures. That stuff does not belong in school whatsoever. Not even High School.

I do think it is sad that the days of just busting the students butt wide open with a good paddling and letting the matter go is over. Now you have all these different alternative punishments, instead of just dealing with the matter and being done with it.

59 posted on 02/25/2004 3:51:40 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: LowOiL
principle=principal
60 posted on 02/25/2004 3:53:39 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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