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While we're on the trail of OBL...Interrogating bin Laden
newsmax ^ | Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2001 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 02/25/2004 4:32:55 AM PST by InvisibleChurch

Interrogating bin Laden Jack Wheeler Freedom Research Foundation Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2001 It is obviously important that OBL (Osama bin Laden) not be simply hunted down and shot to death. He should be captured and interrogated until all the information he has about his terrorist network has been extracted from him – then he should be summarily executed. No trials, no being "brought to justice."

What, then, would the most efficient and effective form of interrogation be? In 1995, the Philippine State Police captured an OBL agent. They knew he was planning some terrorist act but didn't know what. So they tortured him – the old-fashioned way, right out of the movies, putting out cigarettes on his testicles, breaking his ribs, the whole brutal nine yards.

It took two weeks and finally he broke, revealing a plot to hijack 11 airliners. By exposing and unraveling the plot, the torture saved hundreds, perhaps thousands, of lives, so it was clearly justified.

The ethics of torturing OBL should not be an issue. As a practical matter, the question is how to torture him in such a way that it takes hours, not days or weeks, for him to break – and when he does break, you know for sure he is telling the truth.

To start with, you don't want to use a so-called truth serum like thiopental sodium. It acts by confusing your memory so much you forget who is your friend and who is your enemy. So you think the interrogator is your friend and you talk – except you can't think or remember clearly. No, you want OBL to be thinking and remembering with crystal clarity.

The best lie detector – although it's not used as such – would be a medical brain scanning device called an fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging). Light years in effectiveness beyond a polygraph, an fMRI scan can distinguish – instantly, in real time – when someone is either lying or telling the truth, as different regions in the brain light up.

So here's what to do:

Fly in from the U.S. and set up an fMRI at an interrogation center at the Termez air base in Uzbekistan. When OBL or any of his agents is captured, bring him to the center and do three things: Place him under the fMRI brain scanner, put him on a mechanical respirator, and give him an injection of a paralytic drug called succinyl choline chloride (SCC).

SCC, used as a veterinarian anesthetic, causes muscle paralysis by blocking neuromuscular junction. It causes immobilization without affecting the central nervous system. OBL cannot move yet is fully conscious and there is no analgesia (pain relief).

Injection by an M.D. anesthesiologist of SCC into the nerve tracts leading to the diaphragm will paralyze the muscles needed for breathing. OBL can think, remember and talk, but he cannot breathe. The mechanical respirator breathes for him. Without the respirator, he would quickly suffocate and die.

The respirator is a CPAP, a Continuous Positive Airway Pressure unit used for treating sleep apnea, with a nasal mask. The unit itself is placed in an adjacent room with a long hose, as no metal can be around the huge magnets of the fMRI. The unit will force air via the nasal passageway into the lungs. His mouth is free and clear to talk.

Now the interrogation begins. OBL is asked a series of questions to which the answers are known (e.g., Are you a Moslem? Would you like a drink of pig grease?) If he lies, the respirator is turned off. Few experiences are more terrifying than that of suffocation.

After a sufficiently terrifying period of suffocation, the respirator is turned back on, the question is asked again and the process repeated until he tells the truth.

Once you have the regions in OBL's brain clearly distinguished that light up when he is lying or telling the truth, the serious questioning starts. It will not take long, an hour or two at the most, before OBL or his agent is singing like a full chorus of canaries.

After all useful information has been extracted from his brain, OBL or his agent should be informed that he will now be killed after his body is smeared with pig fat, that his dead body will be handled by women, and all other actions taken that prevent a Moslem from entering heaven upon death so that he dies believing he will never get the heavenly wine and virgins, but will burn in hell instead.

Upon his execution, there should be no physical remains. The body should be cremated and the ashes scattered to the winds.

While this must be OBL's fate, it may be useful to not kill certain interrogated agents, but rather use them as informants. One helpful benefit of this method of interrogation is that it will not leave a mark of any kind on the terrorist's body.

Then the word can be spread. All members of the Moslem Terrorist Network must know that we have informants among them; that once captured, any of their terrorist brethren will betray their comrades and that their fate will be ashes and hell. The only way to win the War Against Moslem Terrorism is to terrorize the terrorists into giving up their evil Jihad.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen

Smith-Clarke Mechanical Respirator

1 posted on 02/25/2004 4:32:56 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
Absolutely 100% correct.
2 posted on 02/25/2004 4:45:12 AM PST by samtheman
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To: InvisibleChurch
Works for me.

Alas, I doubt very much we would do it that way.
3 posted on 02/25/2004 4:52:22 AM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws -- Smile!!!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Fun to contemplate that scenario. We do need to play the pig card from time to time. Almost guaranteed effective.
4 posted on 02/25/2004 4:52:52 AM PST by speedy
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To: InvisibleChurch
and all other actions taken that prevent a Moslem from entering heaven upon death so that he dies believing he will never get the heavenly wine and virgins, but will burn in hell instead.

Much as I love the thought of any of them paying heavily, I do not think that religious threats will work, because they are politicians and cynical opportunists, and at heart are probably atheists.

But let's torture them anyway, on general principles. Vlad Tepes had appropriate ideas for these people.

5 posted on 02/25/2004 4:55:43 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Sounds great, but lets spread his ashes in Iowa, at one of those huge pig sties.
6 posted on 02/25/2004 4:55:52 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (I saved my "JEB" signs for 08. I'll use them in 04 if Hillary runs.)
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To: Gorzaloon
First, we'll corrupt him with television and rap music. We'll gradually dumb down his "morals" until he is willing to do anything for the worthless baubles of this world.

No wait. That's our KIDS. Never mind. We'll fill his scotal sac with lemon juice and battery acid.
7 posted on 02/25/2004 4:59:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Excellent
8 posted on 02/25/2004 5:08:45 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: AppyPappy
"First, we'll corrupt him with television and rap music. We'll gradually dumb down his "morals" until he is willing to do anything for the worthless baubles of this world."

Whoa there.

Wouldn't that be in direct violation of Geneva's contention?

We here, in the land of the pleb and the knave, would be hauled to the Hague on charges of indecent pollution of third world anti-matter.

No, my friend, we must do the left thing and get rid of the bushes.

9 posted on 02/25/2004 5:28:32 AM PST by G.Mason (The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected -- Will Rogers)
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To: InvisibleChurch
We do not want to become like our enemies.
10 posted on 02/25/2004 5:37:42 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: InvisibleChurch
There's a lot of people who are insane these days, thinking that old fashioned torure makes people admit 'anything'. Well, they may say anything, but the truth will be in there too. The best way to simply to cross verify it.

I'm so sick of the do-gooders these days, risking our lives like this.
11 posted on 02/25/2004 5:40:34 AM PST by Monty22
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To: InvisibleChurch
Make a film of Binny being rigged up with respirator and fMRI. Accompany this with a voiceover describing how the device can literally read his mind. After the interrogation is complete, arrange for Binny's paralyzed, conscious body to be raped by a succession of pigs. Have it occur in a large hangar with many empty "stations" identical to the one where Binny is mounted. Shoot lots of close-ups and show a lot of detail, so that nobody doubts its authenticity. Have the voiceover describe how Binny is being held in an American military facility, and that this is now happening to him 24/7, and will for the rest of his medically extended life. (In actuality you simply kill him and burn the remains.) Don't release the tape, of course, but arrange for private screenings with every sheikh, imam, ayatollah, mullah and politician in the Moslem world.
12 posted on 02/25/2004 5:55:15 AM PST by Physicist
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To: InvisibleChurch
There is a method called sensory deprivation that is much more effective. It essentially separates your tactile senses from your brain. Nobody lasts more than about 45 minutes.

After we wring every last bit of info from this coward scum he should be turned over to a crowd of Americans who can dispatch him in a particularly ugly and viscious way. Any crowd of Americans will do, he does not understand who he has crossed.
13 posted on 02/25/2004 6:25:24 AM PST by Pylot
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To: Gorzaloon
and at heart are probably atheists.

Yeah, I suspect as much myself. The guys at the top are usually not kool-aid drinkers themselves (Jim Jones aside). I don't think for a minute that Hillary (for example) actually believes any of the democrat talking points, policies or platforms. She's coopted an existing political machine in order to garner power.

I think it might be the same with bin Laden. Probably doesn't believe any of this Islam stuff but realizes it is an effective tool to radicalize people to do his bidding. I imagine he has been living the life and walking the walk so long now that it is second nature to him but if you isolated him long enough from that environment, he'd probably just tell you he doesn't believe in any of that pig-fat stuff and 72 virgins crap anyway if you tried to threaten him with it.

14 posted on 02/25/2004 6:31:20 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: InvisibleChurch
Pry his eyes open a la Clockwork Orange, and force him to watch every available Pauly Shore movie known to man. Increase the effect by removing the original score to the movies, and replacing them with Milli Vanilli songs
15 posted on 02/25/2004 8:57:35 AM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: Pylot
"Any crowd of Americans will do, he does not understand who he has crossed."

I don't think that the bleeding heart liberals would punish this scum. They'd take him out for dinner.

16 posted on 02/25/2004 9:00:09 AM PST by Chi-Town Lady
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To: Pylot
After we wring every last bit of info from this coward scum he should be turned over to a crowd of Americans who can dispatch him in a particularly ugly and vicious way. Any crowd of Americans will do, he does not understand who he has crossed.

I wish they would just give him to me.

Watching the those towers fall, while the Pentagon burned, as brave Americans crashed that jet in Pennsylvania, placed a burning hatred in my heart.

I'm sure we will kill him eventually, but the only thing that would truly extinguish my hatred would be to kill him myself.

17 posted on 02/25/2004 9:11:30 AM PST by Strider
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To: Chi-Town Lady
And you would not call that an agony worse than death??
18 posted on 02/25/2004 1:04:13 PM PST by Pylot
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