[ApplegateRanch]

Mandella doesn't enter in; communism does. Confiscation & 'redistribution' is classic. So is class-division.

As to Mbeki:

1. Sees NOTHING be done about Zimbabwe...except the EU make 'exceptions' for Mugabe & family to travel to EU in violation of 'sanctions'.

2. Sees Commonwealth do NOTHING about Zimbabwe flouting Commonwealth 'values', other than 'study', etc.

3. Mbeki is an out & out racist.

4. Terrible internal problems, which can be demonized onto the despized, properous minority.

Somehow, sounds made to order for the begginings for instituting a People's Paradise. Never mind that many of those problems are of his own making.

[nopardons]

Mandela IS a stinking Commie and not all that far removed from Mbeki, in his way of thinking; Mbeki is just a wee bit more obvious.

But yes, it IS the Communist mantras, which drive this behavior.