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Kerry, Edwards to Face Off in California Debate
Reuters ^ | 2-26-04 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/26/2004 5:18:31 PM PST by jwalburg

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Democratic presidential contenders converged on California on Thursday for the first of two debates that give John Edwards his best shot at slowing front-runner John Kerry's momentum before next week's 10-state Super Tuesday showdown.

Kerry, Edwards and the two other remaining candidates, Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton, will participate in the 90-minute debate at the University of Southern California on Thursday night.

Along with a Sunday debate in New York, the two forums offer Edwards his most public platform to try to change the dynamics of the Democratic race and stop Kerry's march to the nomination to face President Bush in November.

Bush, who launched his re-election drive earlier this week with attacks on Kerry, continued the theme during a trip to Kentucky and North Carolina. He derided his political rivals as out of touch with working Americans for refusing to support making his tax cuts permanent.

Kerry, who earned the endorsement of the New York Times, has dominated the Democratic race with 18 victories in the first 20 contests, and another blowout on Tuesday could put the nomination in reach and Edwards' candidacy in doubt.

The 10 states include big prizes like California, New York and Ohio and have 1,151 delegates at stake, more than half of the 2,162 needed to win. Kerry would not have enough delegates to win the nomination with another dominating performance, but Edwards would have little incentive to push on.

Edwards, who used a strong debate performances in Iowa and Wisconsin to mount late charges in those earlier races, began the day by earning the endorsements of the California and New York chapters of the ACORN community group, which represents more than 150,000 low and moderate-income families.

"I want to change this country so never again in America does anyone ever utter the phrase 'working poor,"' he said at a rally in San Francisco.

Kerry arrived in Los Angeles on Thursday afternoon and planned to stop at a grocery store to meet striking workers. More than 70,000 California grocery employees have been on strike for the past five months over a plan by three supermarket chains to cut their health benefits.

The Massachusetts senator drew more than 2,500 people at a campaign rally in Macalester College's field house in St. Paul, Minnesota, on Wednesday night. Fire marshals said they turned away hundreds more.

During a speech interrupted dozens of times by a mix of union members and college students waving blue-and-white Kerry signs, the senator blamed Bush for sending American jobs abroad, leaving millions without health care, running an inept foreign policy and alienating traditional U.S. allies.

Bush, on a visit to Kentucky, said his challengers were out of touch with working Americans for opposing the extension of his 2001 and 2003 tax cuts at a cost of around $1 trillion over the next decade.

"That's code word for 'I'm going to raise your taxes,"' Bush told workers at a Louisville pipe-making company.

"We don't need to be raising taxes right now as the economy is beginning to recover. We've got plenty of money in Washington D.C.," he said, ignoring this year's projected half-trillion-dollar budget deficit.

Bush also planned a visit to Edwards' home turf of North Carolina on Thursday night for a fund raiser in Charlotte.

"I wish President Bush would spend more time talking to families and listening to their fears, like I do," the North Carolina senator said. "Then he might realize that the people of North Carolina need more from their president than economic photo-ops and $2,000-a-plate fund raisers."

In its editorial endorsing Kerry, The New York Times said he "exudes maturity and depth" and that "what his critics see as an inability to take strong, clear positions seems to us to reflect his appreciation that life is not simple."

But the Times also criticized Kerry for showing little interest in being daring and said: "We wish we could see a little of the political courage of the Vietnam hero who came back to lead the fight against the war."

The Times said Edwards was a strong campaigner but too inexperienced. "When he departs from his stump speech and discusses domestic issues or -- particularly -- foreign affairs, his lack of experience shows," it said. (Additional reporting by Patricia Wilson, Deborah Charles, Adam Entous)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; california; debate; democratdebate; edwards; election; kerry
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To: mass55th
Kerry wouldn't support the death penalty for the killer of a five year old because we must be a "civil" nation.
41 posted on 02/26/2004 6:26:47 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I tuned in late, but must say it's a pretty good debate. Ron Brownstein is a lethal questioner! If this is the best Kerry can do, I say "Bring it On"!
42 posted on 02/26/2004 6:26:50 PM PST by Timeout ("Hello, Freedom Man"...Vietnam boat refugees to American sailors, 1982)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
My daughter likes to watch these debates. I had to change the channel when that subject came up. What a sorry pass to come to.

43 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:11 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Oops...misread that...I mistakenly thought it was Kerry you were writing about. More than likely he won't vote for it either.
44 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:26 PM PST by mass55th
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To: All
Crap, who cares what Al & The Elf have to say?
45 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:38 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Barnacle
Debate:
Edwards: There are two Americas and Bush is a liar.
Kerry: I went to Viet Nam and Bush is a liar.
Repeat until everyone is asleep.
46 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:42 PM PST by Ramcat (The Judiciary is immune to gridlock.)
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To: Timeout
I agree...this debate has some depth.
47 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:48 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: mass55th
Actually Edwards says he supports parts of DOMA and other parts he doesn't support

Now they are discussing captial punishment .. Kerry is against it .. Edwards is for it and brings up the truck draging in Texas
48 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:52 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Mo1
Kookcinich can't get a word in.
49 posted on 02/26/2004 6:28:33 PM PST by petercooper (America - where your problems aren't your fault, they're someone else's.)
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50 posted on 02/26/2004 6:28:35 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: terilyn
As much as I despise CNN, they're not doing a bad job.

I agree

51 posted on 02/26/2004 6:29:20 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Mo1
But Edwards did say he would not have voted for the DOMA.
52 posted on 02/26/2004 6:29:29 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: petercooper
Kookcinich wants the debate to be between the difference among the Dimm candidates. Good point.
53 posted on 02/26/2004 6:30:43 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: mass55th
Re: I'm watching an old Gregory Peck movie I recorded earlier.

Hate to bust your bubble, but Greg Peck, as great an actor as he was, would be right there holding John eFing Kerry's hand & egging him own to hate W.

Remember the Hate Ad he did against Bork!

54 posted on 02/26/2004 6:30:44 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Ramcat
ROFL...great synopsis.
55 posted on 02/26/2004 6:30:49 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Right_in_Virginia
That is true .. IMO, it's a flip flop answer he gave

Dennis says he will cancel NAFTA ..

can we just cancel a treaty??

56 posted on 02/26/2004 6:31:09 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: jwalburg
why the hell are the 2 clowns there? Have they gotten 1% of the vote anywhere?
57 posted on 02/26/2004 6:31:29 PM PST by petercooper (America - where your problems aren't your fault, they're someone else's.)
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To: cajungirl
Had my daughter watch some of tonight's debate to get feedback.

Edwards she said "He doesn't look sure of himself" (right on)

Kerry she observed often does not answer the question.

Case in point that had us all three (including husband) ticked, was the question about the nation being deeply divided, and if Kerry becomes president the republicans can be expected to constantly knock him, and if George Bush remains, the dems will continue to try and tarnish his name. Kerry proceeds to say Bush is divisive (hurt my heart when the audience gave huge applause to this), then went on to bash Bush, and ended that he, Kerry, had a positive message, when the fact is he had just failed to say one positive thing, and he certainly said nothing that indicated he appreciated republicans at all. Not one thing.
58 posted on 02/26/2004 6:32:05 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: petercooper
why the hell are the 2 clowns there? Have they gotten 1% of the vote anywhere?

Kerry insisted they participate, I believe...
59 posted on 02/26/2004 6:32:30 PM PST by NTNgod
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To: Mo1
Can a president just cancel a treaty?

Good question...wish I knew ;^)
60 posted on 02/26/2004 6:32:35 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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