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I DETEST THIS FILM ..WITH A PASSION [Christopher Hitchens on the Passion of the Christ]
The Mirror ^ | February 27, 2004 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 02/27/2004 3:40:31 AM PST by ejdrapes

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To: samtheman
STRAWMAN CONSTRUCTION ZONE

FINES WILL BE DOUBLED
441 posted on 02/29/2004 11:49:39 PM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: BCrago66
But if you want to defend a snuff film, have fun.

Damn! What is with the strawmen around here?

Is every film where where a death is acted out a "snuff film?"

Or only films that have to do with Christianity?

442 posted on 02/29/2004 11:56:02 PM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: Cronos
The dialect of Aramaic that Jesus spoke has indeed become extinct.
443 posted on 03/01/2004 12:19:56 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: HostileTerritory
That's curious... on what do your base your faith in the Bible's historical accuracy if you call yourself an agnostic?

Logic helps. Do you have to be a Christian to have "faith" in Roman historian's accounts of the same period?

444 posted on 03/01/2004 12:27:46 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: Americathy
Hope no one discovers a group of people, all descendants of Pilate.

SSSHHHHH!!!! We don't like to talk about it...

445 posted on 03/01/2004 12:41:14 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: Qwinn
And HT accuses you of using a strawman....
446 posted on 03/01/2004 12:45:30 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: HostileTerritory
such as when you privilege the Bible over other historic texts.

I don't see where Qwinn has done so. Do you have historical texts that deny Jesus' crucifiction?

They were written after the fact of Jesus' death in a specific political and cultural environment.

Uhh, most historians write about events after they happen. In specific political and cultural environments as well. You are trying to insinuate that the Gospels shouldn't be used as historical texts in any way, even on the most basic facts. Be honest.

447 posted on 03/01/2004 12:50:16 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: Matchett-PI
You cannot legitimately claim to be an agnostic and speak of "human rights" in the same breath.

Why not? Do your Christian beliefs of how people should be treated not follow logic?

448 posted on 03/01/2004 1:06:34 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
the film is supposed to be historically accurate

I've never seen this claim. I've seen the claim that it is Biblically accurate though.

449 posted on 03/01/2004 1:09:05 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: stands2reason
biblically accurate in this case means it doesn't show anything that the bible contradicts, and there are no theological elements in it that are not backed up by the bible.
450 posted on 03/01/2004 1:13:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Heyworth; lonevoice
I would logically assume that each country would translate the English subtitles, not the Aramaic.
451 posted on 03/01/2004 1:22:56 AM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Fine...you win!
452 posted on 03/01/2004 4:43:52 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: Josef Stalin
Perhaps you could provide some links to this evidence since there is so much out there.
453 posted on 03/01/2004 5:21:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: stands2reason
hey, the NoVA theater i saw the Passion in this weekend offered the movie with either English OR spanish subtitles. that is precisely how they will do it.
454 posted on 03/01/2004 5:22:40 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: AppyPappy
Josephus on Jesus
455 posted on 03/01/2004 5:33:18 AM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: stands2reason
Has anyone ever suggested before that you might want to consider changing your screen name?
456 posted on 03/01/2004 7:13:24 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: cyncooper
Great posting --
457 posted on 03/01/2004 9:53:52 AM PST by Migjagger
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To: Matchett-PI
Oh yes, the "there's no logic or reason unless you believe a God-man made himself a sacrifice to please his Father and to erase all of the world's sin" bullscite.

I wonder how the ancient Greeks managed.
458 posted on 03/01/2004 12:04:34 PM PST by stands2reason (Liberal lurkers: stick around, you may just grow a brain.)
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To: carton253
Sorry if it came off that way. I just wanted to point out that there was a lot more going on then what was on the surface.
459 posted on 03/01/2004 3:24:39 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Pick my weapon? Ok I choose sledge hammers.... in seven feet of water.)
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To: ejdrapes

460 posted on 03/01/2004 3:27:04 PM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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