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Father who married daughter ordered back to prison
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Posted on 02/27/2004 7:43:58 AM PST by chance33_98

Father who married daughter ordered back to prison

MOBILE, Ala. (AP) -- A 53-year-old man was sent back to prison after a judge decided the man had violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with his 30-year-old daughter, who is also his former wife.

Mobile County Circuit Judge John Lockett ordered Carroll Eugene Ferdinandsen to prison on Thursday after determining he violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with Alice Ferdinandsen.

Each had pleaded guilty to incest last summer in connection with their May 2003 civil marriage in Mobile County and served six months in jail before being released in January.

Prosecutors presented police witnesses who testified they found the father and daughter together in motel rooms on two occasions, just days after the couple's release from jail.

Each had pleaded guilty to incest last summer and served six months in jail before being released in January.

Lockett ordered Carroll Ferdinandsen to serve the remainder of a 10-year sentence.

The judge said the state had not proved its case against Alice Ferdinandsen and ruled she had not violated her probation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: debauchery; incest; lawrencevtexas; marriage; moraldepravity; sexualperversion; slipperyslope
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To: 68 grunt
Do 3 hail hillary's as repentance and we will call it even.
41 posted on 02/27/2004 8:44:15 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: chance33_98
I'll bet they are bill clinton dimocrats.
42 posted on 02/27/2004 8:45:15 AM PST by hgro
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To: chance33_98
People are so judgmental. How can they prevent this poor man from marrying a woman who reminds him so much of his first wife?
43 posted on 02/27/2004 8:48:56 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I'll bet that every night he asks her, "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"
44 posted on 02/27/2004 8:58:40 AM PST by albee
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To: Lizavetta
After all, once you've opened the door to one kind of deviation you have no grounds to close it to other kinds. Right?

Basically your right. If the SCOTUS does not uphold laws that define what marriage is and what sexual conduct is considered illegal then eventually the whole thing is open for interpretation under the law.

45 posted on 02/27/2004 9:18:55 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: chance33_98
Kiss Daddy Goodnight - Louise Armstrong
46 posted on 02/27/2004 9:23:14 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
"...You got a purty mouth..."

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

47 posted on 02/27/2004 9:40:31 AM PST by mhking (Consult the Book of Armaments!)
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To: chance33_98
I think the conviction must be overturned because the Supreme Court has carved out a zone of privacy around all sexual activity involving only adults.
48 posted on 02/27/2004 9:43:12 AM PST by Montfort
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I disagree with you, but your position is certainly consistent.

However, I'm still looking for someone who supports Rosie's right to "marry" her partner, but supports locking up this daddy for "marrying" his adult daughter. I suspect they're out there in large numbers. But I don't expect to find a very well thought out position on their part.

49 posted on 02/27/2004 9:49:03 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: jimt
A male-male-male-female relationship, or a male-dog relationship or a female-rock relationship has all the legitimacy of a male-male or female-female relationship, IMHO.

Oh, my God . . . you know my ex-boyfriend. "Rock" is best used to describe the substance I suspect resides in his ample yet mostly hairless cranium.
50 posted on 02/27/2004 9:52:49 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Snuffington
If you go to DU, you'll find that they DO oppose polygamy, but ONLY because of the difficulty with child support laws, divorce statutes, etc. However, they did admit it would take a lot of time to implement changes in the law regarding gay marriage, because there are CENTURIES of law to overturn/amend.
51 posted on 02/27/2004 9:54:08 AM PST by boop
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To: moonman
Because she's a she. We all know that it's never the female's fault. Especially if it involves something sexual. She is always the victim of some deviant male with nefarious intentions. /sarcasm off

But scratching my head.... they found he violated probation for being with her but she didn't?
52 posted on 02/27/2004 9:57:28 AM PST by Jaded
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
I remember that case and I don't recall any mention of homosexuality with the brothers, who were by all accounts somewhat slow...

the reason the community backed the brother accused was because he was slow, otherwise, a good citizen, and death was most probably accidental or a normal fight gone bad with terrible results...

but you are right about my New York state.....we have just as many backwoods people as other states......its just that it wouldn't fit with the media's sterotyping of New York State, the state BTW, that is 2nd in Apple production, high in milk, maple syrup, grapes, cherries, etc...its definately got a lot of farm country, believe it or not...

53 posted on 02/27/2004 10:01:22 AM PST by cherry (BLY)
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To: Snuffington
Actually I sort of doubt that gay marriage supporters would want this couple barred from marrying. Most of them seem to have a completely libertarian viewpoint on relationships (as I do) but overlay that with their socialist tendency to love government involvement in everything, and therefore insist that the government issue them (and everybody else) licenses. Of course, they claim unfairness in government providing certain privileges to married couples that are not provided to unmarried couples. And I'd have a lot of sympathy with that position, if it weren't for the fact that the privileges are offset by all sorts of government meddling that only comes into play with a marriage license, such as tax penalties, government-mandated estate laws, etc. Personally I think anyone who wants the government involved in their domestic life in any way is nutso!
54 posted on 02/27/2004 10:02:24 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: chance33_98; little jeremiah; scripter; lentulusgracchus; MeekOneGOP
Bump & Ping
55 posted on 02/27/2004 10:09:08 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Actually I sort of doubt that gay marriage supporters would want this couple barred from marrying.

I think Andrew Sullivan would disagree with you, and he speaks for a lot of gay marriage supporters. He not only says the issues are entirely unrelated, but he insists anyone trying to make the connection is simply diplaying bigotry and homophobia.

Stanley Kurtz, on the other hand (anti-gay marriage), has long contended that you cannot seperate these two issues. He has cited more radical gay marriage advocates who also see the issues as linked, but not for the libertarian reasons you posit. They see it as a tactic to bring about the abolision of marriage as a social structure altogether (because its oppressive, patriarchal, blah-blah etc.). The link for them is that both would serve to discredit marriage, driving it toward being meaningless.

56 posted on 02/27/2004 10:13:32 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: cherry
Mayor in New York Town to Perform Gay Marriages
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1086717/posts

57 posted on 02/27/2004 10:18:04 AM PST by quietolong
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To: EdReform
Thanks for the ping.

The legal reasons to deny biologically related father/daughter marriages make sense. Yet if they're unable to have kids who's to say they shouldn't marry?

If we're going to allow homosexual marriages, who are we to deny father/daughter, father/son, brother/brother or any combination of marriages? Either it's open to everyone or it's limited to one man and one woman.

58 posted on 02/27/2004 10:45:50 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: EdReform; Happy2BMe; yall
I can die. I've heard it all now ...

Mobile County Circuit Judge John Lockett ordered Carroll Eugene Ferdinandsen to prison on Thursday after determining he violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with Alice Ferdinandsen.

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60 posted on 02/27/2004 10:58:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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