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To: bondserv; Dataman
aka. Middle Eastern lies swallowed hook line and sinker by the Left. Satan has always despised the Chosen people of God, and hates those adopted into the family with equal furor. A la Mel Gibson!

Indeed. One which "floors" me is the rule of dating used by modern scholars, which basically says that if anything prophesied actually happened then the book containing the prophesy must have been written afterwards because otherwise the author would have been a prophet which is impossible according to "scientific materialism".

Some of the ancient civilizations recorded things in stone or metal which has lasted over the years and can be easily dated. For the most part, the Jewish people used materials which did not last - thus the importance of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the above silver engraving.

In the case of the "scholarly" method described above, before the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, studied and carbon-dated, it was assumed that the book of Enoch was written after 37 B.C. because it contained prophesies about Herod (whose reign began 37 B.C.) but before Christ because it was quoted by the apostles. But carbon dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls (which themselves are copies from another copy or original) dated the DSS copy to about 200 B.C. LOL! So much for "scholarly" method of dating...

28 posted on 02/28/2004 9:38:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
But carbon dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls (which themselves are copies from another copy or original) dated the DSS copy to about 200 B.C.

That should be repeated more often.

31 posted on 02/29/2004 5:27:52 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Alamo-Girl
In the case of the "scholarly" method described above, before the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, studied and carbon-dated, it was assumed that the book of Enoch was written after 37 B.C. because it contained prophesies about Herod (whose reign began 37 B.C.) but before Christ because it was quoted by the apostles. But carbon dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls (which themselves are copies from another copy or original) dated the DSS copy to about 200 B.C. LOL! So much for "scholarly" method of dating...

LOL!--that's one of my major complains about liberal Bible scholarship, too :) The Dead Sea Scrolls disproved a lot of late-date theories like that. Another good example of that type of "scholarly dating" fallacy is how liberal scholars long tried to date the Gospels after 70 AD on the grounds of Jesus' predictions about Jerusalem in Matthew 24-25 and parallel passages. Then eventually a fellow liberal Bible scholar pointed out that, um, the language used there is not just in the Gospels, it's also in 1 Thessalonians 4-5, which even liberal scholars date to c. 50 AD. . .whoops! :)

38 posted on 02/29/2004 11:43:29 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Alamo-Girl

Could you provide citations for your claims. I've read extensively on the Dead Sea Scrolls and I haven't heard this. I'd like to check it out for myself and add it to my corpus of knowledge should it pan out.


64 posted on 04/14/2006 1:23:16 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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