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Washington Times ^ | 3/02/04 | Mona Charen

Posted on 3/2/2004, 6:33:01 AM by kattracks

Edited on 7/12/2004, 11:13:35 PM by Jim Robinson. [history]

It grieves me to object to Mel Gibson's movie because I know millions of Christians in this country and around the world will be moved and possibly even transformed by it

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; monacharen; thepassion
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1 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:33:01 AM by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I usually like Mona's input. In this case, she is dead wrong.

Blessings, bobo
2 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:37:13 AM by bobo1
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To: kattracks
She is off her rocker on this one.... way off. I have lost all respect for this columnist and will now NEVER read her whiney words again.

She is dead to me... just like France.

3 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:38:20 AM by Lion in Winter
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To: kattracks
Common now all you Mel apologists. Trash Mona Charen like you've trashed everyone else with anything negative to say about this movie.
4 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:38:26 AM by mercy
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To: kattracks
She needs to check with Paul H. on this.
5 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:38:48 AM by Waco
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To: kattracks
Yawn. These kooks aren't convincing anyone beyond their fellow kooks of these idiotic claims.
6 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:39:03 AM by Jaysun (No matter how rich a man is, he can only drink 30-40 beers a day.)
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To: kattracks
I am neither a Christian nor a big fan of organized religion. However, Mona is just plain wrong here.

There are many nutcases in the world. They will find irrational reasons to support their passions and prejudices. Blaming Mel Gibson's movie for having the potential to incite the mentally unstable makes no sense. By this standard, the inmates will always run the asylum.
7 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:41:09 AM by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: bobo1
Is she "dead" to you too?

After reading her less than thoughtful words about Christians who view this movie as wonderful.... Christians who by the way, support Israel completely... she is no longer worth reading. She is history to me.

8 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:42:00 AM by Lion in Winter
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To: Waco
Waco, I grew up in Waco. I even had an office in the ALICO building.
9 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:42:07 AM by Jaysun (No matter how rich a man is, he can only drink 30-40 beers a day.)
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To: Lion in Winter
She is history.

blessings, bobo
10 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:45:21 AM by bobo1
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To: kattracks
Mona, the people whose anti-Semitic feelings get stirred up by this film are anti-Semites to begin with and are looking for yet another excuse to hate Jews even more than they already do. If this film was never made, they'd find their excuses someplace else.

And as far as the recent wave of violence against Jews in Europe is concerned, most (if not all) of it has been committed by Muslims. ......and they won't get bent out of shape by this movie for obvious reasons.

11 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:46:44 AM by Mr. Mojo
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To: mercy
I'm not going to trash Mona Charen. She wasn't nasty or phony in expressing her concerns, like so many others before her have been. She isn't blasting the movie or telling Christians the world would be a better place if they just toned down their religion. So I'm just fine with her opinion, even if I hope she is wrong.

In fact I'm kind of in the mood to grieve right along with her tonight about the state of the world.

12 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:49:31 AM by hellinahandcart
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To: mercy
IT was a largely CHRISTIAN Military that ended godless nazism and freed Europe... the world needs more Christians alright... too bad moaning mona DOESN'T GET IT!

The nerve of that woman to equate CHRISTIANS who support Israel and like the movie, THE PASSION OF CHRIST with muslim terrorists who would willingly commit acts of violence against CHRISTIANS and JEWS!!

She needs to take a look at all those white crosses at the American cemeteries in France! Maybe she should just join up Kerry... he is just her speed!

13 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:50:40 AM by Lion in Winter
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To: kattracks
I am one of The Passion's biggest supporters (see my posts), but this information is rather distressing. We know Arabs aren't vandalizing anything relating to the death of Christ, nor are the Greeks or I presume the French, or the Germans.

I understand the heaviness of this question, but does anyone care to theorize on the reasons anit-Semitism seems to return again and again in all parts of the globe? I have yet to fully understand the issue.

If I had to guess, I would venture that some may presume that those of the Jewish faith don't assimilate quite as fully into the culture they reside in, and are seen as placing their faith over their patriotism and love of country?? I cannot come up with any other reasoning, so someone knowledgeable in this area please help me out?

Another question I have is this....look at the amazing amount of animosity toward all Americans in the world right now (I would say a much larger issue than anti-Semitism) or anti-Kurdish emotions in Turkey or anti-Japanese feelings in China, or a million other prejudices. Do we shine the light on anti-Semitism that is out of proportion to the whole? All thoughts appreciated here.
14 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:53:27 AM by bond7
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To: kattracks
Mel Gibson might have thought more about that before making his film in the way he did.

In other words, Gibson should have lied about the role of Jewish leaders in Christ's death, or left it out of the story, or what?

What on earth do people want?

15 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:54:23 AM by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: Young Rhino
I will avoid her writings like the plague. I feel as if she insulted me to the core because I found the movie to be JUST EXCELLENT and a real expression of Mel Gibson's faith and belief in God.

A refreshing thing coming from a movie "star"... in these troubled times.

16 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:55:18 AM by Lion in Winter
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
BTTT
17 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:56:22 AM by Lion in Winter
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To: kattracks
I usually find Charen to be very thoughtful and reasonable, but I almost can't believe she even wrote this column. Her whole premise is flawed. Only the first and last paragraphs of a long article even mention Mel Gibson's film, yet the theme of the entire article is how the film is anti-Semitic. She claims Gibson seeded the movie with "Jewish guilt and perfidy", but rather than give examples to prove her point, she launches into a list of all of the anti-Semitic incidents around the world (completely neglecting to mention the influence of Islam in those incidents) and somehow concludes that it's Gibson's fault. By her logic, Christian beliefs cannot be expressed because some nutcases on the other side of the world are vandalizing synagogues (she also fails to mention that ALL of these incidents occurred without the movie having even been released).

I hope she recovers very soon from whatever affliction it is that is robbing her of her ability to think clearly.
18 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:58:11 AM by fr_freak
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
"In Tuzla, 1,500 demonstrators carried placards reading, 'Sharon and Hitler: Two Eyes in the Same Head,' and, 'Israel — The Real Face of Terrorism."

Interesting comments from Bosnian muslims considering they supported hitler and nazis in WWII.

19 posted on 3/2/2004, 6:58:57 AM by Lion in Winter
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To: fr_freak
I wonder if she thinks that the muslims got a special preview of the movie and then went on those crazed anti-Israeli rampages and suicide bombings?

She has lost it!

20 posted on 3/2/2004, 7:01:18 AM by Lion in Winter
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