R&D Starts to Move Offshore - Outsourcing evolves beyond low-wage programming jobs

ComputerWorld ^ | 3/1/2004 | Patrick Thibodeau and Sumner Lemon

[RogueIsland]

They have the R&D expertise, they have the marketing expertise, they've got the manufacturing expertise. Tell me again why they need $50 mill a year exectutives to tell them what to do?

That'll continue as long as those executives keep turning over their intellectual property in trade for better quarterly numbers. Once the intellectual vault is looted, watch for that arrangement to change rather abruptly.

[cynicom]

No one worries about this until it is their job that is leaving the country. Third world status, here we come.

[elfman2]

I was the only Caucasian who bothered signing up for a computer networking class at Chico State in the spring of 1991. Now some of the same “patriots” who considered x25 protocol too tedious too learn are rationalizing why they should be able to tell me who I can trade with.

(Of course there was not a word from them when Intel built plants in Ireland in the early 90s)

[elfman2]

" No one worries about this until it is their job that is leaving the country. Third world status, here we come."

Maybe you could give us an example of a country achieving “third world status” due to free trade.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Great. I look good in blue.

[cynicom]

elf...

Look around you, you are living in the example that is heading down hill. If you cannot, or will not see it, you are part of the problem.

[elfman2]

"Look around you, you are living in the example that is heading down hill. If you cannot, or will not see it, you are part of the problem."

I admire your invulnerability to xenophobic election year rhetoric in order to recognize rising wages, employment and growth following wartime hits to travel and the bursting of technology bubble. I also admire your ability to dodge my last question.

[TXBSAFH]

Free trade is killing the middle class. I talked to a programmer last night, he has been in IT for over 15 years and hae says he has never seen the job market this bad before.

[FITZ]

The executives had better watch out --- they too can easily be replaced.

[junta]

I see that you have sipped the kool-aid of the race baiting left. Besides Irish chicks look a hell of alot better than Indians so I cannot blame Intel execs for wanting to outsource themselves to Dublin.

[elfman2]

Your friend may be skilled in technology, but I don’t trust him in economics. I wrote this a few weeks ago to explain what I think is the source for strife in technology.

[elfman2]

"I see that you have sipped the kool-aid of the race baiting left. Besides Irish chicks look a hell of alot better than Indians so I cannot blame Intel execs for wanting to outsource themselves to Dublin."

About as thought provoking an answer as I would expect from a mind ruled by emotional triggers rather than evidence.

[cynicom]

Dodge??? Not at all. You are standing in a downward spiral and refuse to see you are moving. From your vantage point you see to the horizon, regardless of which way you move, the horizon is your outer limit.

[TXBSAFH]

Maybe you are right but maybe you are not. But in terms of this election does it matter. I have talked to about ten fellow it professionals and none are happy with the outsourcing. All either have or know someone who has lost their jobs. It will affect how they vote. This issue will be big in this election.

[junta]

Your race baiting crap is pure Jesse Jackson voodoo, you excreted plenty of evidence of that in your posts.

[elfman2]

"Maybe you are right but maybe you are not. But in terms of this election does it matter. I have talked to about ten fellow it professionals and none are happy with the outsourcing. All either have or know someone who has lost their jobs. It will affect how they vote. This issue will be big in this election."

Maybe you’re right that it will affect the vote, but I don’t think that the solution is European style protectionism.

[elfman2]

"Your race baiting crap is pure Jesse Jackson voodoo, you excreted plenty of evidence of that in your posts"

My mistake…. You are an emotionality stable clear thinker. {smile}

[TXBSAFH]

What I am saying is that if some steps are not taken tax cuts, tariffs, somwething. This will cost America big.

[RussianConservative]

Still, some IT development work can be done only in the U.S., said Richard Brown, associate vice president of marketing at Via Technologies Inc. in Taipei, Taiwan. For example, the design and development of Via's PC chip-set products is done in Taiwan, but the company's CPU and graphics-chips products are designed by teams in the U.S., reflecting the dominance of the U.S. in those product areas, he said

Why?

[RussianConservative]

Indonesia....2.5 and back to 3 minus....no really, Britian is brain drain for 30 years now...so is Germany (11%+ unemployment and last year GDP shrink 1%) Germany living standard only above Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal...oops and it still fall.