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R&D Starts to Move Offshore - Outsourcing evolves beyond low-wage programming jobs
ComputerWorld ^ | 3/1/2004 | Patrick Thibodeau and Sumner Lemon

Posted on 03/02/2004 3:55:47 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer

As corporate America becomes increasingly comfortable with offshore development, it's sending substantially more sophisticated IT work overseas. Companies such as Google Inc. are turning to foreign workers not for their willingness to work for lower wages but for their technological prowess.

Google is advertising for highly skilled IT help at its recently opened research and development facility in Bangalore, India. These employees will be involved in all aspects of Google's computer engineering work: conception, research, implementation and deployment.

"Bangalore is the so-called Silicon Valley of India, and there is a large pool of talented software engineers there," said Krishna Bharat, Google's principal scientist.

R&D is core to most companies. They guard it carefully, and their brightest people work on it. But as offshoring becomes increasingly commonplace, companies are moving up the value chain, using foreign workers in ways that make them a more integral part of the corporate identity.

Silicon Valley venture capital firms are encouraging start-ups to send their product development work overseas, said Marc Hebert, a vice president at Sierra Atlantic Inc., a Fremont, Calif.-based outsourcing firm that specializes in R&D. While Google was explicit about talent rather than cost being the driver of its offshore move, most companies are equally keen to tap the lower wages, which enable them to hire more people to bring products to market faster.

Hebert said that although idea generation and funding are still coming from the U.S., more and more of the R&D work needed to actually bring a product to market is being done offshore. "That's the really interesting trend," he said.

What that means for the future of Silicon Valley and IT development in the U.S. is unclear. But while overseas firms are hiring, the IEEE-USA said last week that the 2003 U.S. jobless rate for computer scientists and systems analysts has reached an all-time high of 5.2%.

The Asia Connection

Although the number of R&D jobs that have moved to Asia doesn't yet approach the number of low-end IT jobs that have moved, such as those in programming, the gap is bound to narrow, said Bob Hayward, an Australia-based senior vice president at Gartner Inc.

"There's a certain amount of inevitability about it," Hayward said, noting that the highly skilled Asian workforce and the leading role taken by those countries in developing cutting-edge services and technologies, such as broadband Internet access and flat-panel technology, have attracted the attention of U.S. IT vendors.

Just in the past three to four years, U.S.-backed investments in Asian R&D operations have increased dramatically, Hayward said. He noted that those investments have soared while IT vendors, faced with a global slowdown in demand for their products, have held back investments in other areas.

Several of the largest U.S. IT vendors started building R&D centers in China in 1998. Intel Corp. and Microsoft Corp. have opened facilities in Beijing. Intel has 40 researchers; Microsoft has 200 Ph.D. candidate interns and 170 researchers.

Some governments provide economic incentives to attract U.S. companies to invest in R&D operations in their countries. In Taiwan, for example, foreign firms can deduct 35% of their R&D investments from the income tax owed by their profit-making operations.

Still, some IT development work can be done only in the U.S., said Richard Brown, associate vice president of marketing at Via Technologies Inc. in Taipei, Taiwan. For example, the design and development of Via's PC chip-set products is done in Taiwan, but the company's CPU and graphics-chips products are designed by teams in the U.S., reflecting the dominance of the U.S. in those product areas, he said.

'Big Picture' Question

But the trend is clear. About half of the IT R&D done by Stratex Networks Inc. takes place overseas, some at its New Zealand subsidiary, and some in India. That has included development of a network configuration tool, said B. Lee Jones, vice president of IT and CIO at the San Jose-based company.

Jones has eight data centers to run on five continents and offices across 22 time zones. Like many U.S. IT executives, he wonders about the big picture: the long-term impact on the U.S. as more work is shifted offshore. But Jones said he believes the U.S. will remain dominant in IT.

Though he has some hesitancy about moving high-level work offshore, along with a desire to keep core development in the U.S., Jones said that "as the comfort level goes up and we are able to take advantage of having comparable quality for smaller prices, people will naturally migrate there."

Lemon is the IDG News Service correspondent in Taipei.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: offshoring; randd; rd; strategicindustry; trade
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To: DManA
They have the R&D expertise, they have the marketing expertise, they've got the manufacturing expertise. Tell me again why they need $50 mill a year exectutives to tell them what to do?

That'll continue as long as those executives keep turning over their intellectual property in trade for better quarterly numbers. Once the intellectual vault is looted, watch for that arrangement to change rather abruptly.

21 posted on 03/02/2004 6:03:41 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Lazamataz
No one worries about this until it is their job that is leaving the country. Third world status, here we come.
22 posted on 03/02/2004 6:06:33 AM PST by cynicom
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
I was the only Caucasian who bothered signing up for a computer networking class at Chico State in the spring of 1991. Now some of the same “patriots” who considered x25 protocol too tedious too learn are rationalizing why they should be able to tell me who I can trade with.

(Of course there was not a word from them when Intel built plants in Ireland in the early 90s)

23 posted on 03/02/2004 6:07:02 AM PST by elfman2
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To: cynicom
" No one worries about this until it is their job that is leaving the country. Third world status, here we come."

Maybe you could give us an example of a country achieving “third world status” due to free trade.

24 posted on 03/02/2004 6:08:13 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Alouette
Great. I look good in blue.
25 posted on 03/02/2004 6:09:01 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: elfman2
elf...

Look around you, you are living in the example that is heading down hill. If you cannot, or will not see it, you are part of the problem.

26 posted on 03/02/2004 6:14:12 AM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
"Look around you, you are living in the example that is heading down hill. If you cannot, or will not see it, you are part of the problem."

I admire your invulnerability to xenophobic election year rhetoric in order to recognize rising wages, employment and growth following wartime hits to travel and the bursting of technology bubble. I also admire your ability to dodge my last question.

27 posted on 03/02/2004 6:30:25 AM PST by elfman2
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Free trade is killing the middle class. I talked to a programmer last night, he has been in IT for over 15 years and hae says he has never seen the job market this bad before.
28 posted on 03/02/2004 6:32:24 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: RogueIsland
The executives had better watch out --- they too can easily be replaced.
29 posted on 03/02/2004 6:36:37 AM PST by FITZ
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To: elfman2
I see that you have sipped the kool-aid of the race baiting left. Besides Irish chicks look a hell of alot better than Indians so I cannot blame Intel execs for wanting to outsource themselves to Dublin.
30 posted on 03/02/2004 6:36:53 AM PST by junta
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To: TXBSAFH
Your friend may be skilled in technology, but I don’t trust him in economics. I wrote this a few weeks ago to explain what I think is the source for strife in technology.
31 posted on 03/02/2004 6:40:42 AM PST by elfman2
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To: junta
"I see that you have sipped the kool-aid of the race baiting left. Besides Irish chicks look a hell of alot better than Indians so I cannot blame Intel execs for wanting to outsource themselves to Dublin."

About as thought provoking an answer as I would expect from a mind ruled by emotional triggers rather than evidence.

32 posted on 03/02/2004 6:43:21 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Dodge??? Not at all. You are standing in a downward spiral and refuse to see you are moving. From your vantage point you see to the horizon, regardless of which way you move, the horizon is your outer limit.
33 posted on 03/02/2004 6:45:00 AM PST by cynicom
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To: elfman2
Maybe you are right but maybe you are not. But in terms of this election does it matter. I have talked to about ten fellow it professionals and none are happy with the outsourcing. All either have or know someone who has lost their jobs. It will affect how they vote. This issue will be big in this election.
34 posted on 03/02/2004 6:46:33 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: elfman2
Your race baiting crap is pure Jesse Jackson voodoo, you excreted plenty of evidence of that in your posts.
35 posted on 03/02/2004 6:49:53 AM PST by junta
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To: TXBSAFH
"Maybe you are right but maybe you are not. But in terms of this election does it matter. I have talked to about ten fellow it professionals and none are happy with the outsourcing. All either have or know someone who has lost their jobs. It will affect how they vote. This issue will be big in this election."

Maybe you’re right that it will affect the vote, but I don’t think that the solution is European style protectionism.

36 posted on 03/02/2004 6:59:48 AM PST by elfman2
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To: junta
"Your race baiting crap is pure Jesse Jackson voodoo, you excreted plenty of evidence of that in your posts"

My mistake…. You are an emotionality stable clear thinker. {smile}

37 posted on 03/02/2004 7:01:49 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
What I am saying is that if some steps are not taken tax cuts, tariffs, somwething. This will cost America big.
38 posted on 03/02/2004 7:22:20 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Still, some IT development work can be done only in the U.S., said Richard Brown, associate vice president of marketing at Via Technologies Inc. in Taipei, Taiwan. For example, the design and development of Via's PC chip-set products is done in Taiwan, but the company's CPU and graphics-chips products are designed by teams in the U.S., reflecting the dominance of the U.S. in those product areas, he said

Why?

39 posted on 03/02/2004 7:28:30 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: elfman2
Indonesia....2.5 and back to 3 minus....no really, Britian is brain drain for 30 years now...so is Germany (11%+ unemployment and last year GDP shrink 1%) Germany living standard only above Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal...oops and it still fall.
40 posted on 03/02/2004 7:39:04 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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