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R&D Starts to Move Offshore - Outsourcing evolves beyond low-wage programming jobs
ComputerWorld ^ | 3/1/2004 | Patrick Thibodeau and Sumner Lemon

Posted on 03/02/2004 3:55:47 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer

As corporate America becomes increasingly comfortable with offshore development, it's sending substantially more sophisticated IT work overseas. Companies such as Google Inc. are turning to foreign workers not for their willingness to work for lower wages but for their technological prowess.

Google is advertising for highly skilled IT help at its recently opened research and development facility in Bangalore, India. These employees will be involved in all aspects of Google's computer engineering work: conception, research, implementation and deployment.

"Bangalore is the so-called Silicon Valley of India, and there is a large pool of talented software engineers there," said Krishna Bharat, Google's principal scientist.

R&D is core to most companies. They guard it carefully, and their brightest people work on it. But as offshoring becomes increasingly commonplace, companies are moving up the value chain, using foreign workers in ways that make them a more integral part of the corporate identity.

Silicon Valley venture capital firms are encouraging start-ups to send their product development work overseas, said Marc Hebert, a vice president at Sierra Atlantic Inc., a Fremont, Calif.-based outsourcing firm that specializes in R&D. While Google was explicit about talent rather than cost being the driver of its offshore move, most companies are equally keen to tap the lower wages, which enable them to hire more people to bring products to market faster.

Hebert said that although idea generation and funding are still coming from the U.S., more and more of the R&D work needed to actually bring a product to market is being done offshore. "That's the really interesting trend," he said.

What that means for the future of Silicon Valley and IT development in the U.S. is unclear. But while overseas firms are hiring, the IEEE-USA said last week that the 2003 U.S. jobless rate for computer scientists and systems analysts has reached an all-time high of 5.2%.

The Asia Connection

Although the number of R&D jobs that have moved to Asia doesn't yet approach the number of low-end IT jobs that have moved, such as those in programming, the gap is bound to narrow, said Bob Hayward, an Australia-based senior vice president at Gartner Inc.

"There's a certain amount of inevitability about it," Hayward said, noting that the highly skilled Asian workforce and the leading role taken by those countries in developing cutting-edge services and technologies, such as broadband Internet access and flat-panel technology, have attracted the attention of U.S. IT vendors.

Just in the past three to four years, U.S.-backed investments in Asian R&D operations have increased dramatically, Hayward said. He noted that those investments have soared while IT vendors, faced with a global slowdown in demand for their products, have held back investments in other areas.

Several of the largest U.S. IT vendors started building R&D centers in China in 1998. Intel Corp. and Microsoft Corp. have opened facilities in Beijing. Intel has 40 researchers; Microsoft has 200 Ph.D. candidate interns and 170 researchers.

Some governments provide economic incentives to attract U.S. companies to invest in R&D operations in their countries. In Taiwan, for example, foreign firms can deduct 35% of their R&D investments from the income tax owed by their profit-making operations.

Still, some IT development work can be done only in the U.S., said Richard Brown, associate vice president of marketing at Via Technologies Inc. in Taipei, Taiwan. For example, the design and development of Via's PC chip-set products is done in Taiwan, but the company's CPU and graphics-chips products are designed by teams in the U.S., reflecting the dominance of the U.S. in those product areas, he said.

'Big Picture' Question

But the trend is clear. About half of the IT R&D done by Stratex Networks Inc. takes place overseas, some at its New Zealand subsidiary, and some in India. That has included development of a network configuration tool, said B. Lee Jones, vice president of IT and CIO at the San Jose-based company.

Jones has eight data centers to run on five continents and offices across 22 time zones. Like many U.S. IT executives, he wonders about the big picture: the long-term impact on the U.S. as more work is shifted offshore. But Jones said he believes the U.S. will remain dominant in IT.

Though he has some hesitancy about moving high-level work offshore, along with a desire to keep core development in the U.S., Jones said that "as the comfort level goes up and we are able to take advantage of having comparable quality for smaller prices, people will naturally migrate there."

Lemon is the IDG News Service correspondent in Taipei.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: offshoring; randd; rd; strategicindustry; trade
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To: RussianConservative
"Indonesia....2.5 and back to 3 minus....no really, Britian is brain drain for 30 years now...so is Germany (11%+ unemployment and last year GDP shrink 1%) "

Indonesia? I’m not familiar with the history of their open market policy, but I suspect it unlikely that they were a high wage protectionist state brought down to 3rd world status from cheaper competition.

Brittan has wages comparable to ours. It suffers from some social problems around immigration but bears no resemblance to the 3rd world. At worst, it lost its superpower status when larger freer nations like ours developed.

I suspect that Germany’s problems (far from 3rd worldliness) correlate much more closely to expanded socialization than to opening of markets.

“Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal”? Again, stagnant semi-socialist states, not third word carcasses wrecked by rampant capitalism.

41 posted on 03/02/2004 8:08:23 AM PST by elfman2
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To: RussianConservative
"Why?"

Cultural barriers. Technology’s so ingrained into many dynamic business functions that very close working relationships are imperative. Constantly passing requirements and modifications back and forth across the Internet to foreigners is too bureaucratic for nimble operations.

42 posted on 03/02/2004 8:16:59 AM PST by elfman2
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To: TXBSAFH
"What I am saying is that if some steps are not taken tax cuts, tariffs, somwething. This will cost America big."

Tariffs are taxes, that typically invite retaliation, damage trade and arguably make US businesses less competitive, losing jobs in the long run.

The US just recently was penalized for our export tax credit, and our political opposition (who is behind this anti free market chorus) is attempting to villainize further tax cuts.

43 posted on 03/02/2004 8:24:46 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Free trade is hurting the people of this country far more then it helps. We need to do away with it.
44 posted on 03/02/2004 8:32:49 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: elfman2
Cultural difference? BS...only need to import some US workers as knowledge base till own teams trained up. As for relationships...small liaison teams....modifications/requirements passed by internet between companies and in companies all time anyway...bureaucratic is often what corporation is.
45 posted on 03/02/2004 9:01:01 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
"Cultural difference? BS...only need to import some US workers as knowledge base till own teams trained up"

I’ve participated in too many system conversion, installation, and development projects to fail to recognize that BS.

46 posted on 03/02/2004 9:59:04 AM PST by elfman2
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To: TXBSAFH
"Free trade is hurting the people of this country far more then it helps. We need to do away with it. "

Yea, freedom’s destructive and un-American. Freedom to trade with who we choose is the worst.

47 posted on 03/02/2004 10:01:15 AM PST by elfman2
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer; RussianConservative
Time to open my restaurant in Kazan.
48 posted on 03/02/2004 10:06:21 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
"R&D is core to most companies. They guard it carefully..."

Apparently not too carefully if they outsouce it
49 posted on 03/02/2004 10:10:54 AM PST by moonman
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To: elfman2
The freedom to live in a third world economy after most of the decent jobs leave.
50 posted on 03/02/2004 10:16:51 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: elfman2
Freedom to trade with who we choose is the worst

Show us the place in the WTO charter that says one group is free to trade with another group regardless of the country they reside in, regardless of they type of item they want to trade, and without any interference, obstruction, fines or penalties from the WTO.

If trade were "free" and each trader able to make the decision who he wants to trade with and under what terms, why does the WTO even exist?
51 posted on 03/02/2004 10:23:49 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer; A. Pole
They are just realizing this now? You cannot retain R&D for an industry you don't have. Its like saying the US is the leader in R&D for the consumer electronics industry; nonsense, Japan and Asia have the industry, they have the R&D.

Of course people are bailing out of college education in this field. Who wouldn't? Its going to fall further, much further, as techies in industry now (or who have lost their jobs) steer their own college bound children into other fields because they see what is going on. Law school applicants are piling up, the tort laws are going to have to become even more lax to fund the salaries of the millions of new lawyers we are producing.

The free trader freepers continue to put their heads in the sand, as does the Bush economic team. The US leading exports after aircrafts are all farm products (unless you count jobs exports), free trade and globalism have turned our export business into a pre industrial revolution model.

The WTO was formed to shift the economic balance of power away from the US, and its working. And too many conservatives are happy to see it occur if it means they can get a $10 shirt or a $39 DVD player.
52 posted on 03/02/2004 10:28:24 AM PST by oceanview
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer; A. Pole
and this also outght to put an end to all the people here saying the the "new businesses" would create new US jobs in the new fields. The VC money is taking these new enterprises offshore from the start, just like we said they were doing.
53 posted on 03/02/2004 10:30:59 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Centurion2000
Make it theme resturant...America IT Experience.
54 posted on 03/02/2004 11:02:25 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Show us the place in the WTO charter that says one group is free to trade with another group regardless… "

Feel free to fall back on the WTO or any other bureaucracy to protect your anti-free trade agenda. I’m generally for freer trade.

55 posted on 03/02/2004 11:02:31 AM PST by elfman2
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To: TXBSAFH
"The freedom to live in a third world economy after most of the decent jobs leave."

The freedom to panic at your shadow.

56 posted on 03/02/2004 11:03:29 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Centurion2000
You know, I think US Cajone food is good investment...very good stuff, especially Kombo...mmmm good.
57 posted on 03/02/2004 11:03:54 AM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: elfman2
Like I said I know too many people that have lost jobs to out sourcing. The fear is real as are the reasons for that fear.
58 posted on 03/02/2004 11:09:25 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Yes but there's no cause for concern, outsourcing is a sign of a healthy economy. Those displaced by more efficient workers overseas can retrain and look forward to rewarding careers as pool cleaners, lawn care and hospitality workers.
59 posted on 03/02/2004 11:11:39 AM PST by fso301
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To: elfman2
Feel free to fall back on the WTO or any other bureaucracy to protect your anti-free trade agenda

The "free trade" that you are for has been entirely engineered by the bureacracy called the WTO.
60 posted on 03/02/2004 11:14:14 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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