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Gunmaker Liability Bill Goes Down in Defeat
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| 3/2/2004
| Fox News
Posted on 03/02/2004 2:16:54 PM PST by GrandEagle
WASHINGTON Senate Democrats gunning for a ban on assault weapons forced down a bill preventing gun manufacturers from liability after the bill's sponsor said the amendment made the measure too unpalatable.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponban; bang; banglist; guncontrol
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Looks like there has been some confusion on this one today.
The two ammendments passed but the bill as a whole failed.
To: GrandEagle
Someone posted earlier that one of my senators (Craig, R - ID) had asked for it to be voted down precisely because of all the riders.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:21:34 PM PST
by
IYAS9YAS
(Go Fast, Turn Left!)
To: GrandEagle
Could this be the beginning of a republican shock and awe campaign. First the massive failure of a gun bill expected to pass and then charges against the NY state mayor for handing out illegal marriage licenses.
This will certainly rattle the cages of the candidates on their big night.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:22:16 PM PST
by
cripplecreek
(you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
To: GrandEagle
Looks like Fox is a little confused too. I did a double-take on this one:
Nonetheless, Democrats accused the bulk of Republicans of kowtowing to the National Education Association after Executive Director Wayne LaPierre sent a letter to GOP leaders announcing that the NRA opposed passage of the bill with its amendments and note recorded votes for future use.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:23:18 PM PST
by
RedQuill
To: GrandEagle
I'm glad it failed. Even without AW renewal, it had some ugly amendments
To: cripplecreek
This will certainly rattle the cages of the candidates on their big night.
Yes, but it is still a big Democrat win.
If it had passed: the AWB was renewed
If it failed you can sue firearms manufacturers out of existence.
To: IYAS9YAS
That's what I heard. But the reader said it was intereting that now everyone was on record in their vote, including Monsieur Kerry.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:26:15 PM PST
by
marty60
To: RedQuill
National Education Association
LOL! I misssed that one too!
To: IYAS9YAS
Your Senator Craig should be doing Bill 'Shifty' Frist's job as Senate Majority Leader.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:26:48 PM PST
by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi)
To: GrandEagle
The bill's defeat is a blessing in disguise.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:27:24 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: SauronOfMordor
it had some ugly amendments
Yes it did. I was just reading them.
To: All
Ten Republicans broke party ranks to extend the ban: Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, Susan Collins of Maine, Mike DeWine of Ohio, Peter Fitzgerald of Illinois, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Richard Lugar of Indiana, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine, George Voinovich of Ohio and John Warner of Virginia. Ten Republicans to be defeated at the polls, at whatever cost, when their times come.
Better an avowed enemy at the gates, than a traitor in the camp
To: SauronOfMordor
Better an avowed enemy at the gates, than a traitor in the camp
AMEN!!!
To: SauronOfMordor
With republicans like these, who needs democrats?
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:29:55 PM PST
by
aomagrat
To: GrandEagle
If it had passed: the AWB was renewed If it failed you can sue firearms manufacturers out of existence. A bad trade. The trial lawyers would have figured a way around the anti-lawsuit part, but the AW ban would stand.
Once the AW ban sunsets, even for a month, people will stockpile magazines, and pre-ban-type weapons so that a temporary resumption of the ban would be irrelevant for a long time
To: SauronOfMordor
Ten Republicans to be defeated at the polls,...Fortunately, Fitzgerald is not running for reelection.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:31:09 PM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: marty60
marty60 wrote:
That's what I heard. But the reader said it was intereting that now everyone was on record in their vote, including Monsieur Kerry.
Kerry and Edwards were both there for many of the amendment votes.
However, I'm not sure about the final passage vote. All of the earlier votes totalled 99 Senators voting. The final vote was 90-8, or 98 Senators voting. I think Kerry might have been the one that left. We'll have to wait for the senate server to be updated with the roll call vote info (It might be there now, but the server is so swamped, I can't get the results).
Just checked again, Kerry was there for the final vote. He was one of the 90 Nays.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:32:56 PM PST
by
cc2k
To: SauronOfMordor
A bad trade.
Its always a bad trade! But I agree with you on this one. It's better with it failing to pass.
To: cc2k
I'm sorry, I meant the amendments. not the final vote. When Craig pulled the rug out, everyone headed for the tall grass.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:37:24 PM PST
by
marty60
To: GrandEagle
If it failed you can sue firearms manufacturers out of existence. I don't have a precise handle on it, but the preponderance of "stupid" cases have been getting thrown out. The people have many levels to work on, and not every matter requires a Congressional solution.
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posted on
03/02/2004 2:40:02 PM PST
by
Cboldt
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