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Mexican Executions Dampen Bush - Fox Summit
Reuters ^ | March 2, 2004

Posted on 03/02/2004 5:07:32 PM PST by sarcasm

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico will complain to President Bush at talks this week in Texas about Oklahoma's plans to execute a Mexican convict, but an analyst says a newfound friendship between the two countries should stay on track.

Mexico is upset that Oklahoma this week defied the U.N.'s International Court of Justice and set May 18 as the date for the execution of Osvaldo Torres, convicted of a double murder in 1993.

``This for us is a deliberate violation of the provisional measures that the International Court of Justice dictated,'' Geronimo Gutierrez, a senior Mexican foreign ministry official, said on Tuesday.

He said Mexican President Vicente Fox would bring up the case with Bush when the pair meet at the U.S. president's ranch in Crawford, Texas, this Friday and Saturday.

``We are urging the U.S. federal government to take all the necessary measures to protect the life of Osvaldo Torres and the other Mexicans,'' Gutierrez told a news conference.

The Mexican president angrily canceled a planned meeting with Bush in Texas in 2002 after the state executed a Mexican prisoner.

The world court, based in The Hague, ordered a stay of execution for Torres and two Mexican convicts in Texas in February 2003.

The court ruled U.S. authorities denied them and dozens of other Mexican prisoners on death row help from their consulates, which they were entitled to under international law.

STILL 'AMIGOS'

Fox and Bush are also set to discuss Bush's plan to reform immigration law, which would allow millions of Mexicans to earn temporary visas, and a long dispute over water sharing on their border.

Mexican political analyst Jorge Chabat said the planned execution would not derail a recent reconciliation between the two presidents, who fell out last year over the war in Iraq.

``The two governments have realized that they cannot fight each other too much. That is interdependence,'' he said.

Mexico, an increasingly important trade partner for the United States, sends about 90 percent of its exports to its northern neighbor.

Chabat said the two leaders might agree on ways to reduce the number of illegal immigrants who die every year crossing the 2,000-mile border.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge and Mexican Interior Minister Santiago Creel announced a plan last month to send Mexican illegal immigrants caught crossing the frontier back to their hometowns by bus or plane.

There are doubts over the proposal because the Mexican Constitution forbids depriving citizens of their right to travel in Mexican territory.

But Washington is pleased at Mexico's willingness to cooperate on policing the border, seen by some as a soft U.S. underbelly in the war on terrorism.

Mexico is keen to reduce the number of illegal aliens who die, mostly from exposure and exhaustion, crossing the desert to find a better life in the United States.

It also wants to keep cross-border trade from slowing down due to tightened security or a terror alert.

``It is in our mutual interests to have a secure border. Why? Because it is the most dynamic border in the world,'' said Gutierrez, undersecretary for U.S. affairs.

He said Fox, a former Coca-Cola executive, would also discuss with Bush a White House proposal to grant millions of temporary visas to illegal immigrants.

The plan faces opposition in the U.S. Congress and has been criticized as an election-year ploy to win Hispanic votes.


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; vicentefox
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1 posted on 03/02/2004 5:07:32 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
Catch the "latest"?:http://www.idahostatesman.com/News/story.asp?ID=62248
2 posted on 03/02/2004 5:13:23 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Bond for Torres-Vargas is set at $1 million. He is charged with one count of attempted murder, one count of using a deadly weapon or firearm in the commission of a crime, and misdemeanor charges of unlawful entry and resisting or obstructing a police officer.

< SNIP >

Vietz said Torres-Vargas is in the country illegally after being deported from the Boise area to Mexico in 2003

3 posted on 03/02/2004 5:19:14 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Oklahoma, you're OK.

Now, I'm going to go wash my hands...
4 posted on 03/02/2004 5:25:32 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Don't tell jigsaw I said this...)
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To: sarcasm
Fox should be upset with the UN's buttinskyism and not the laws of the USA. Fox should let is citizens know that if they are convicted of a crime in the USA they will be subject to the laws of the USA. The United Nations can go squat on a kumquat.
5 posted on 03/02/2004 5:26:41 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: whereasandsoforth

They export 90% of their stuff to us and they want to dictate to us whether we can execute their murderers? Typical Mexican thinking. Their system of justice is such an example to the world, doncha know....
6 posted on 03/02/2004 5:33:27 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: sarcasm
Another Sh!tty headline from Rooters -- these are not "Mexican executions." They are American executions of Mexicans who had no business being here. If they had committed their dirty deeds in Mexico (which, I understand, has no death penalty,) they might have lived to see their grandkids. Or maybe even get sprung someday if their families were able to come up with a sufficient amount of palm-grease for the warden, or Gobernador del Estado concerned. But no, they had to commit a capital crime in a state like Oklahoma, which values human life. And how do we know the Okies value life? Because every now and then they *take* one after following the procedures outlined in Oklahoma law. Kwitcherbitchin, Senores.
7 posted on 03/02/2004 5:39:36 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: sarcasm; PhiKapMom; OKSooner
Mexico will complain to President Bush at talks this week in Texas about Oklahoma's
plans to execute a Mexican convict, but an analyst says a newfound friendship
between the two countries should stay on track.


Yo! Vicente!
You send your murderers into the USA as your shock troops...don't suprised at the result!

Vicente, you should send us flowers for cleaning up your trash!
8 posted on 03/02/2004 5:42:47 PM PST by VOA
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To: sarcasm
Mexico is keen to reduce the number of illegal aliens who die

Bull crap.

9 posted on 03/02/2004 5:43:46 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: sarcasm
Just kill the sum bit.
10 posted on 03/02/2004 5:45:57 PM PST by PokeyJoe (Did somebody say "holy war?")
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To: janetgreen
Mexico just want to dump their surplus population and their criminals/perverts into this country.
11 posted on 03/02/2004 5:46:50 PM PST by Dante3
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To: sarcasm
Mexico is keen to reduce the number of illegal aliens who die

Then they should keep them at home.

12 posted on 03/02/2004 5:50:04 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: sarcasm
"``The two governments have realized that they cannot fight each other too much. That is interdependence,'' he said."

Ugh!

"Mexico, an increasingly important trade partner for the United States, sends about 90 percent of its exports to its northern neighbor"

Two legged "exports". But, I'm sure he thought he was being cute with this one.

13 posted on 03/02/2004 5:51:59 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: sarcasm
``This for us is a deliberate violation of the provisional measures that the International Court of Justice dictated,'' Geronimo Gutierrez, a senior Mexican foreign ministry official, said on Tuesday.

Yawn... Wake me when you have something important to discuss. LOL

14 posted on 03/02/2004 5:55:27 PM PST by upchuck (I am upchuck and I approved this message because... well, just because.)
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To: Centurion2000
That's what Mexico said when Americans that couldn't cut it in the east came into Mexico and refused to pay taxes. In fact, Mexico gave them the death penalty.
15 posted on 03/02/2004 6:19:52 PM PST by Tuco Ramirez (Recuerdo el Alamo!)
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To: sarcasm
Mexico is upset that Oklahoma this week defied the U.N.'s International Court of Justice and set May 18 as the date for the execution of Osvaldo Torres, convicted of a double murder in 1993.

The two murdered people are a little POed themselves.

"We are urging the U.S. federal government to take all the necessary measures to protect the life of Osvaldo Torres and the other Mexicans," Gutierrez told a news conference.

ESAD

Mexican political analyst Jorge Chabat said the planned execution would not derail a recent reconciliation between the two presidents,

Bush has bad taste in amigos.

Mexico... sends about 90 percent of its exports to its northern neighbor.

SO I'VE NOTICED!

16 posted on 03/02/2004 6:36:23 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Tuco Ramirez
We won't even talk about it until we get the Alamo flag returned. NOTHING about ANYTHING with Mexico until it is returned!!! God Bless those that gave their all for all we were given. KennyBob
17 posted on 03/02/2004 7:12:48 PM PST by texasreb
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To: texasreb
Nothing about Texas, until Texas is returned!
18 posted on 03/02/2004 8:11:30 PM PST by Tuco Ramirez (Recuerdo el Alamo!)
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To: Tuco Ramirez
In fact, Mexico gave them the death penalty

Death penalty? Vicente Fox says that Mexico doesn't believe in the death penalty. Who ya kiddin' Tuco?

19 posted on 03/02/2004 8:28:47 PM PST by janetgreen (MR. PRESIDENT - CLOSE THE BORDERS)
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To: janetgreen
Vicente Fox says that Mexico doesn't believe in the death penalty

Its all about eliminating our sovereignty. Nothing more, nothing less. Fox won't be happy until our border with them is totally eliminated.

20 posted on 03/02/2004 8:39:45 PM PST by Missouri
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