Homosexuality and the Corruption of a Culture

California Republic.org ^ | 02/27/04 | John Mark Reynolds

[farmer18th]

Within twenty years--possibly ten--religious persons who oppose homosexuality will be looked upon as white supremists. It probably won't be illegal as in Canada, but Christians will be marginalized and on the fringes of society.

Doubt it. Homosexuality will always carry with it the biological revulsion it warrants. Even cultured pagans look at the assembly of sickos on the San Francisco court steps as freaks. That's not going to change.

[AreaMan]

worth boldly repeating

Even a blind pig stumbles upon a truffle now and then.

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

Within twenty years--possibly ten--religious persons who oppose homosexuality will be looked upon as white supremists. It probably won't be illegal as in Canada, but Christians will be marginalized and on the fringes of society.

If we as a people don't turn from our wickedness, this will become reality, Motherbear. The threat of another civil war looms large on the horizon.

[freeangel]

It is not , however, coincidence that they expect other people to pay for a lifestyle that results in such elevated physical and mental problems.

[b9]

You really need to take a look at this comic and think about where your priorities should be directed:

If our priorities were properly "directed", NONE of this would be happening, Clinton would never have been elected...TWICE...and activist judges would not be tolerated.

People are finally waking up. Maybe it's too late. I don't care which alarm is finally ringing loudly enough, but it's great to see that folks have HAD it with terrorists of every ilk, at home and abroad.

[DannyTN]

And do not be deceived. The demands will not end there. Soon religious colleges will lose the right to student money for their students, if they do not approve of homosexuality. Canada demonstrates that even in the pulpit, traditional religious teachings will not be safe. Anti- homosexual “rights” will not long be tolerated, but will soon be officially proclaimed as evil in public school textbooks. The sad case of the Anglican Church shows the steps clearly.L

I think it's worse that that. The rebellion that manifests itself as homosexuality will seek other forms once homosexuality is normalized. Prostitution, beastiality, Pedophilia, Polygamy will follow. Eventually, even the German sicko who ate the person he met from the internet will be celebrated and his activity will be normalized.

[AreaMan]

And do not be deceived. The demands will not end there.

Maybe I should re-post that thing on Necrophilia?

[b9]

We can handle the Persians AND the radical left. We are multitaskers, not insects.

Again, the best! LOL

and it ain't no truffle, neither!

[SW6906]

BTTT

[Zack Nguyen]

Soon religious colleges will lose the right to student money for their students, if they do not approve of homosexuality. Canada demonstrates that even in the pulpit, traditional religious teachings will not be safe. Anti- homosexual “rights” will not long be tolerated, but will soon be officially proclaimed as evil in public school textbooks.

I think this is the endgame. The suppression by government force of dissenting opinions on homosexual behavior. Just my opinion.

[MegaSilver]

Good article, but the writing sags at a couple of points.

[Paul C. Jesup]

We can handle the Persians AND the radical left. We are multitaskers, not insects.

What about illegal immigrantion, outsourcing of jobs, corruption in government, high taxes and massive regulation.

[steve-b]

Er, you complained (correctly) about the error of conflating the state with society. That error was made by the article author, not by BurgessLau.

[steve-b]

Do the people have a right to decide which contracts their government courts will enforce?

The people have a right to decide that a contract to violate the rights of a third party (e.g. a "hit" contract) is unenforceable.

The people do not have a right to decide that certain individuals have a "special right" to enter into contracts that are unavailable to other people (e.g. a zoning prohibition against home purchases by a disfavored ethnic group).

Simple, really.

[FormerLib]

The people do not have a right to decide that certain individuals have a "special right" to enter into contracts that are unavailable to other people (e.g. a zoning prohibition against home purchases by a disfavored ethnic group).

This does not apply in this case as any homosexual has the same right to marry a member of the opposite sex that any other citizen has. Nice try and thanks for playing.

[AreaMan]

What about illegal immigrantion, outsourcing of jobs, corruption in government, high taxes and massive regulation

Look, I agree, if you HAD to take on one issue at a time then yes, I would deal with the Persians trying to nuke us. But, you know that realistically we don't have to deal with just one thing at a time.

Look at it this way, what good would it do to have all the foreign bad guys under control and have an efficient and effective military only to collapse from within, a la Rome.

We have to address both (or all) the issues threatening this society.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Look at it this way, what good would it do to have all the foreign bad guys under control and have an efficient and effective military only to collapse from within, a la Rome.

Actually high taxes, regulation, government corruption destroyed Rome from within; that is why I think they should take top priority over homosexuality.

[b9]

Please excuse this long read (it probably deserves a thread of its own), but DrDeb posted this on another thread, and it sure seems to apply here also:


. . . another EXCELLENT article from Dennis Prager:


San Francisco and Islamists: Fighting the same enemy
Dennis Prager (archive)
March 2, 2004

America is engaged in two wars for the survival of its civilization. The war over same-sex marriage and the war against Islamic totalitarianism are actually two fronts in the same war -- a war for the preservation of the unique American creation known as Judeo-Christian civilization.

One enemy is religious extremism. The other is secular extremism.

One enemy is led from abroad. The other is directed from home.

The first war is against the Islamic attempt to crush whoever stands in the way of the spread of violent Islamic theocracies, such as al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Iranian mullahs and Hamas. The other war is against the secular nihilism that manifests itself in much of Western Europe, in parts of America such as San Francisco and in many of our universities.

America leads the battle against both religious and secular nihilism and is hated by both because it rejects both equally. American values preclude embracing either religious extremism or radical secularism. As Alexis de Tocqueville, probably the greatest observer of our society, wrote almost 200 years ago, America is a unique combination of secular government and religious (Judeo-Christian) society.

Not only has this combination been unique, it has been uniquely successful. America, therefore, poses as mortal a threat to radical secularism as it does to Islamic totalitarianism. Each understands that America's success means its demise.

This is a major reason why the Left so opposes anti-Islamism (just as it opposed anti-communism). In theory, the Left should be at least as opposed to the Islamists as is the Right. But the Left is preoccupied first with destroying America's distinctive values -- a Judeo-Christian society (as opposed to a secular one), capitalism (as opposed to socialism), liberty (as opposed to equality) and exceptionalism (as opposed to universalism, multiculturalism and multilateralism). So, if the Islamists are fellow anti-Americans, the Left figures it can worry about them later.

All this explains why the passions are so intense regarding same-sex marriage. Most of the activists in the movement to redefine marriage wish to overthrow the predominance of Judeo-Christian values in American life. Those who oppose same-sex marriage understand that redefining the central human institution marks the beginning of the end of Judeo-Christian civilization.

Let us understand this redefinition as clearly as possible:

With same-sex marriage, our society declares by law that mothers are unnecessary, since two men are equally ideal as mothers and as the creators of a family; and that fathers are unnecessary, since two women are equally ideal as parents and as the creators of a family.

With same-sex marriage, our society declares that there is nothing special or even necessarily desirable about a man and a woman bonding. What is sacred to the proponents of same-sex marriage is the number of people marrying (two, for the time being), not that a man and woman bond.

With same-sex marriage, when taught in school about sex, marriage and family, children will have to be taught that male-male and female-female sex, love and marriage are identical to male-female sex, love and marriage. And when asked, "Who do you think you will marry when you grow up?" thanks to the ubiquitous images of media, far more children will consider members of the same sex.

With same-sex marriage, no adoption agency will ever be able to prefer a married man and woman as prospective parents. Aside from the tragedy of denying untold numbers of children a mother and a father, this will lead to a drastic diminution in women placing children for adoption, since most of these women will prefer something that will then be illegal -- that agencies place her child with a man and woman, not with two men or two women.

With same-sex marriage, any media -- films, advertisements, greeting cards -- that only depict married couples as a woman and a man will be considered discriminatory and probably be sued.

With same-sex marriage, those religious groups that only marry men and women will be deemed beyond the pale, marginalized and ostracized.

There have been many Christian countries, and they are no longer. They have been replaced by secular countries, and they are weakening. Only American civilization remains strong, and it does so because of its unique amalgam of values rooted in Judeo-Christian morality.

This civilization is now fighting for its life -- as much here as abroad. Join the fight, or it will be gone as fast as you can say "Democrat."

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20040302.shtml

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