Common Dreams has but one dream--an America subjugated to their whim, with dissent eradicated.
You're all forgetting that if there was saltwater on Mars, there's got to be oil. Next trip is for Wildcatters. Next stop, Mars and big oil derrick. :)
Wait a minute, I thought the Iraqi liberation was all about the oil we were going to steal!
Shouldn't America be rolling in ill gotten oil?
These guys do not get it. Oil is a business. Oil producers are not pirates and we are not a pirate nation. We do not steal oil, oil production is not a conspiracy. We are not hostage to the oil producers. We are not prisoners of OPEC's evil will.
We did not invade Iraq for their oil, we already were buying and reselling their oil. Furthermore, we were invited into their oil industry on the eve of the invasion of Kuwait; we gave up access to Iraq's oil industry when we decided to defend Kuwait. And we consciously gave up access by enforcing the containment of Iraq during the nineties.
Oil is neither cheap nor expensive. It is a commodity, and it sells for the price the market will bring. When its high, more oil comes onto the market, and the price drifts downward. When it is low, drilling slows down until the price firms up again.
OPEC has no power at all over the price of oil. The largest new fields are not under OPEC control, and they dare not withhold oil from the market for more than one reason. The first reason is that these are almost every one centalized economies on the verge of bankruptcy. To cut production is to risk social turmoil and blood in the streets. The second reason is that to cut production is to lose market share. OPEC oil left in the ground is oil replaced by Russian, Mexican, Caspian, and African sources.
And we do not steal oil. We bid against multiple bidders, the best bid wins, the host government takes the lion's share, and at the end of the contract all of the infrastructure and assets revert to the control of the host government who either operates it themselves, or offers it up for bid again.
There are two cases where the host governments have stolen US investments, specifically Mexico 1938 and Venezuela in the early seventies. There was no invasion by US forces, on the contrary, the companies involved negotiated a settlement and went on their way. Actually, in the case of Venezuela, they continue to act as consultants and to offer technical assistance to the new owner of their former property.
I always find this argument humorous. If oil consumption is cut enough to make a difference, say by 50%, then there will have to be enough price rise to reduce consumption by that much. Otherwise there has to be truly severe rationing, very unpopular with those not getting any gas, and very wasteful because those getting all they "need" have no reason to be economical. The choice is between allocating gas by price or allocating gas by your political connections.
"Restructuring"energy consumption means cutting total energy usage. Who will suffer? Who will gain? Who will decide who gets what, who decides what "to each in accordance to his need" means? I tell you one thing, it will need men with guns.
Will new sources of energy be brought on line? If so, the only option is nuclear. This guy is saying we should increase nuclear power by about seven to ten times.
Coal gasification will take care of the problems of any oil shortages.
Here in the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Illinois, the automatic gas tax increase updates on April fool's day. We'll be taken for 32 cents on every gallon of gas by the state.
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH:
[BTW, please avoid wasting your time on flames. My hide is pretty tough at this point. And, IF you want a serious response to any response you make to me, PLEASE, first state what percentage of the following lines you actually read, first.]
FROM:
http://www.seaspower.com/EnergyDisclosureDec122003.htm
THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT ANNOUNCES
NEW ENERGY DISCLOSURE INITIATIVE
The Disclosure Project has announced that it will be pursuing a disclosure on the existence of new and alternate energy systems that have been deliberately and illegally suppressed.
The Disclosure Project, in cooperation with Space Energy Access Systems Inc., has discovered that over the past 75 years a number of important breakthroughs in energy efficiency, alternate forms of energy generation and propulsion have been deliberately withheld from the public to prop up the oil, gas, coal, public utility and nuclear power industries.
These significant technological breakthroughs that have been suppressed range from modifications of the internal combustion engine to get significantly higher miles per gallon to new electromagnetic generating systems that extract energy from the so-called Quantum vacuum.
Current intelligence gathered by The Disclosure Project and SEAS indicates that a shadowy operation connected to covert government and intelligence programs but run primarily by US and foreign corporate interests have resulted in this suppression.
Actions taken to effect secrecy and to neutralize the public availability of these technologies - which by now could have completely replaced the need for fossil fuels - include:
Threats, intimidation and on occasion the murder of scientists and inventors originating these energy breakthroughs; Corporate acquisition of technologies with subsequent 'black shelving' - that is the deliberate suppression of the technology by owning the rights and then refusing to release the technology to the public.
The illegal application of section 181 and related sections of the Patent Law to force inventors to keep the technology secret or face substantial fines and jail time;
The bogus and illegal use of other so-called national security provisions to intimidate inventors and suppress technologies; Sabotage of inventor labs, prototypes and facilities in order to cause the loss of the technology or to intimidate inventors and colleagues.
It is clear that human society will continue to be harmed by the deliberate and illegal withholding of such technologies and that a thoroughly documented and sourced Disclosure of the matter is urgently needed. The widening gap between poor and rich nations, the worsening situation in the Middle East and elsewhere, the relentless decay in the environment, global warming, intractable world poverty and many other pressing problems facing humanity are directly related to the suppression of these energy breakthroughs.
We call on all concerned citizens to assist us in identifying and securing the cooperation of the following:
Scientists and Inventors of high credentialed credibility who have been the target or victim of such suppression;
Corporate Whistleblowers who have observed or been part of the acquisition or suppression of such technologies;
Government, military and intelligence whistleblowers who have witnessed or been part of such actions.
These include current or past whistleblower witnesses from the Patent Office, Department of Defense, CIA, NASA, NRO, NSA, Executive Branch/White House, Congress or any other branch of the military and government; Non-US whistleblowers associated with foreign governments, particularly western Europe, Great Britain, Russia/former USSR, and Japan; Foreign corporate or institutional whistleblowers Whistleblowers associated with government labs or para-governmental institutes, universities and research centers.
Any person who has or can acquire documentation, whether government or private/corporate of such suppression and acquisition of technologies and who can establish the authenticity of said documents.
The Disclosure Project will coordinate an international release of such whistleblower testimony and documents once there is sufficient credible named sources and evidence to establish beyond any doubt the reality of the existence and suppression of such technological developments.
Please help us identify such witnesses and evidence. It is time the world knew the truth about energy, oil and why humanity continues to be held down by our artificial addiction to oil and fossil fuels. The time for change is now.
And, from:
http://www.disclosureproject.org/access/ES-DisclosureImplications-2.htm#Implications for the Environment
Implications for the Environment
We have identified insiders and scientists who can prove, in open Congressional hearings, that we do in fact possess classified energy generation and anti-gravity propulsion systems capable of completely and permanently replacing all forms of currently used energy generation and transportation systems.
These devices access the ambient electromagnetic and so-called zero point energy state to produce vast amounts of energy without any pollution. Such systems essentially generate energy by tapping into the ever-present quantum vacuum energy state — the baseline energy from which all energy and matter is fluxing.
All matter and energy is supported by this baseline energy state and it can be tapped through unique electromagnetic circuits and configurations to generate huge amounts of energy from space/time all around us. These are NOT perpetual motion machines nor do they violate the laws of thermodynamics — they merely tap an ambient energy field all around us to generate energy.
This means that such systems do not require fuel to burn or atoms to split or fuse. They do not require central power plants, transmission lines and the related multi-trillion dollar infrastructure required to electrify and power remote areas of India, China, Africa and Latin America. These systems are site-specific: they can be set up at any place and generate needed energy. Essentially, this constitutes the definitive solution to the vast majority of environmental problems facing our world.
The environmental benefits of such a discovery can hardly be overstated, but a brief list include:
Ø The elimination of oil, coal and gas as sources of energy generation, thus the elimination of air and water pollution related to the transport and use of these fuels. Oil spills, global warming, illnesses from air pollution, acid rain etc can and must be ended within 10-20 years;
Ø Resource depletion and geo-political tensions arising from competition for fossil fuel resources will end;
Ø Technologies already exist to scrub manufacturing effluent to zero or near zero emissions for both air and water-but they use a great deal of energy and thus are considered too costly to fully utilize. Moreover, since they are energy intensive, and our energy systems today create most of the air pollution in the world, a point of diminishing return for the environment is reached quickly. That equation is dramatically changed when industries are able to tap vast amounts of free energy (there is no fuel to pay for — only the device, which is no more costly than other generators) and those systems create no pollution.
Ø Energy-intensive recycling efforts will be able to reach full application since the energy needed to process solid waste will, again, be free and abundant.
Ø Agriculture, which is currently very energy dependent and polluting, can be transformed to use clean, non-polluting sources of energy.
Ø Desertification can be reversed and world agriculture empowered by utilizing desalinization plants, which are now very energy intensive and expensive, but will become cost-efficient once able to use these new, non-polluting energy systems.
Ø Air travel, trucking and inter-city transportation systems will be replaced with new energy and propulsion technologies (anti-gravity systems allow for silent above surface movement). No pollution will be generated and costs will decrease substantially since the energy expenses will be negligible. Additionally, mass transportation in urban areas can utilize these systems to provide silent, efficient intra-city movement.
Ø Noise pollution from jets, trucks and other modes of transportation will be eliminated by the use of these silent devices.
Ø Public utilities will not be needed since each home, office and factory will have a device to generate whatever energy is needed. This means ugly transmission lines that are subject to storm damage and power interruption will be a thing of the past. Underground gas pipelines, which not infrequently rupture or leak and damage Earth and water resources, will not be needed at all.
Ø Nuclear power plants will be decommissioned and the technologies needed to clean such sites will be available. Classified technologies do exist to neutralize nuclear waste.
Utopia? No, because human society will always be imperfect — but perhaps not as dysfunctional as it is today. These technologies are real — I have seen them. Anti-gravity is a reality and so is free energy generation. This is not a fantasy or a hoax. Do not believe those who say that this is not possible: they are the intellectual descendants of those who said the Wright brothers would never fly.
Current human civilization has reached the point of being able to commit planeticide: the killing of an entire world. We can and we must do better. These technologies exist and every single person who is concerned about the environment and the human future should call for urgent hearings to allow these technologies to be disclosed, declassified and safely applied.
Implications for Society and World Poverty
From the above, it is obvious that these technologies that are currently classified would enable human civilization to achieve sustainability. Of course, in the near term, we are talking about the greatest social, economic and technological revolution in human history — bar none. I will not minimize the world-encompassing changes that would inevitably attend such disclosures. Having dealt with this issue for much of my adult life, I am acutely aware of how immense these changes will be.
Aside from the singular realization that homo sapiens are not the only — or most advanced — creatures in the universe, this disclosure will cause humanity to be faced with the greatest risks and opportunities in known history.
If we do nothing, our civilization will collapse environmentally, economically, geo-politically and socially. In 10 – 20 years, fossil fuel and oil demand will outstrip supply significantly — and then it is the Mad Max scenario where everyone is warring over the last barrel of oil. It is likely that this geo-political and social collapse will precede any environmental catastrophe.
The disclosure of these new technologies will give us a new, sustainable civilization. World poverty will be eliminated within our life times. With the advent of these new energy and propulsion systems, no place on Earth will need to suffer from want. Even the deserts will bloom…
Once abundant and nearly free energy is available in impoverished areas for agriculture, transportation, construction, manufacturing and electrification, there is no limit to what humanity can achieve. It is ridiculous — obscene even — that mind-boggling poverty and famine exists in the world while we sit on classified technologies that could completely reverse this situation.
So why not release these technologies? Because the social, economic and geo-political order of the world would be greatly altered. Every deep insider with whom I have met has emphasized that this would be the greatest change in known human history. The matter is so highly classified not because it is so silly, but because its implications are so profound and far reaching. By nature, those who control such projects do not like change. And here we are talking about the biggest economic, technological, social and geo-political change in known human history. Hence, the status quo is maintained, even as our civilization hurtles towards oblivion.
But by this argument, we would have never had the industrial revolution and the Ludites would have reigned supreme to this day.
An international effort to minimize disruption to the economy and to ease the transition to this new social and economic reality will be needed. We can do this and we must. Special interests in certain oil, energy and economic sectors need to be reigned in and at the same time treated compassionately: Nobody likes to see their power and empire crumble. Nations very dependent on the sale of oil and gas will need help diversifying, stabilizing and transitioning to a new economic order.
The United States, Europe and Japan will need to adjust to a new geo-political reality as well: As currently poor but populous countries dramatically develop technologically and economically, they will demand — and will get — a meaningful seat at the international table. And this is as it should be. But the international community will need to put in place safeguards to prevent such potential geo-political rapprochement between the first and third world from devolving into bellicose and disruptive behavior on the part of the newly empowered.
The US in particular will need to lead through strength — but avoid the current trend towards domination. Leadership and domination are not the same, and the sooner we learn the difference the better off the world will be. There can be international leadership without domination and hegemony, and the US needs to realize these distinctions if it is to provide much-needed leadership on this issue.
These technologies, because they will decentralize power — literally and figuratively — will enable the billions living in misery and poverty to enter a world of new abundance. And with economic and technological development, education will rise and birth rates will fall. It is well known that as societies become more educated, prosperous and technologically advanced — and women take an increasingly equal role in society — the birth rate falls and population stabilizes. This is a good thing for world civilization and the future of humanity.
With each village cleanly electrified, agriculture empowered with clean and free energy and transportation costs lowered, poverty will dramatically fall in the world. If we act now, by 2030 we will be able to effectively eliminate all poverty in the world, as we know it today. We only need the courage to accept these changes and the wisdom to steer humanity safely and peacefully into a new time.
Implications for World Peace and Security
A few years ago I was discussing this subject with the former Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Claiborne Pell. He explained to me that he had been in Congress since the 1950s but had never been briefed on this subject. I told him that the nature of these black projects has resulted in most of our leaders being left out of any decision making on this subject, and what a shame this is.
I said, "Senator Pell, all that time you were Chairman of Foreign Relations, you were deprived of the opportunity to deal with the ultimate foreign relations challenge…" and I pointed to the stars above our heads. He said, " You know Dr. Greer, I am afraid that you are right…"
It is true that our great diplomats and wise elders, such as Senator Pell, President Jimmy Carter and other international leaders have been specifically and deliberately prevented from having access to or control over this subject. This is a direct threat to world peace. In the vacuum of secrecy, operations supervised by neither the people, the people’s representatives, the UN nor any other legitimate entity have taken actions that directly threaten world peace.
[Qx: Personally, I think both Pell and Carter would have been traitorous in their own ways had they been given such power. Would they have been more traitorous than the puppet masters? I wonder.]
Testimony, corroborated by multiple military witnesses who do not know each other and who have had no opportunity for collusion, will show that the US and other countries have engaged these ETVs in armed attack, in some cases leading to the downing of these vehicles. As I said to Mrs. Boutros Ghali, wife of the then Secretary General of the UN, if there is even a 10% chance that this is true, then this constitutes the gravest threat to world peace in human history
Having personally interviewed numerous credible military and aerospace officials with direct knowledge of such actions, I am certain that we have done this. Why? Because these unknown vehicles have been in our airspace without our permission and because we wanted to acquire their technology. Nobody has asserted that there is an actual threat to humanity from these objects: Obviously, any civilization capable of routine interstellar travel could terminate our civilization in a nanosecond, if that was their intent. That we are still breathing the free air of Earth is abundant testimony to the non-hostile nature of these ET civilizations.
We have also been informed that the so-called Star Wars (or National Missile Defense System) effort has really been a cover for black project deployment of weapon systems to track, target and destroy ETVs as they approach Earth or enter Earth’s atmosphere. No less a figure than Wernher Von Braun warned on his death-bed of both the reality and the madness of such a scheme, apparently to no avail (see the Testimony of Carol Rosin, former spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun).
Well, unless we change directions we are likely to end up where we are going.
With the types of weapons currently in the covert arsenal — weapons more fearsome even than thermonuclear devices — there is no possibility of a survivable conflict. Yet in the darkness of secrecy, actions have been taken on behalf of every human that may endanger our future. Only a full, honest disclosure will correct this situation. It is not possible for me to convey in words the urgency of this.
For 10 years I worked as an emergency doctor and saw how every possible object can be used as a weapon. Every technology, unless guided by wisdom and a desire for that good and peaceful future – the only future possible — will be used for conflict. Super-secret projects that answer to no legally constituted body- not the UN, not the US Congress, not the British Parliament — must not be allowed to continue to act in this way on behalf of humanity.
One of the greatest dangers of extreme secrecy is that it creates a hermetically sealed, closed system impervious to the free and open exchange of ideas. In such an environment, it is easy to see how grave mistakes can be made. For instance, the testimony here will show that these ETVs became very prominent after we developed the first nuclear weapons — and began to go into space. There were multiple events — corroborated here by numerous credible military officials — of these objects hovering over and even neutralizing ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles).
A closed, military view of this might be to take offense, engage in counter-measures and attempt to down such objects. In fact, this would be the normal response. But what if these ET civilizations were saying, "Please do not destroy your beautiful world — and know this: we will not let you go into space with such madness and threaten others…" An event showing concern and even a larger cosmic wisdom could be construed over and over again as an act of aggression. Such misunderstandings and myopia are the stuff wars are made of.
Whatever our perceptions of these visitors, there is no chance that misunderstandings can be resolved through violent engagement. To contemplate such madness is to contemplate the termination of human civilization.
It is time for our wise elders and our levelheaded diplomats, like Sen. Pell, to be put in charge of these weighty matters. To leave this in the hands of a clique of un-elected, self-appointed and unaccountable covert operations is the greatest threat to US national security and world security in history. Eisenhower was right, but nobody was listening.
In light of testimony showing that covert actions have been taken that involved violent engagement of these visitors, it is imperative that the international community in general and the US Congress and President in particular do the following:
Ø Convene hearings to assess the risks to national and international security posed by the current covert management of the subject;
Ø Enforce an immediate ban on weapons in space and specifically ban the targeting of any extraterrestrial objects since such actions are unwarranted and could endanger the whole of humanity;
Ø Develop a special diplomatic unit to interface with these extraterrestrial civilizations, foster communication and peaceful relations;
Ø Develop a suitably empowered and open international oversight group to manage human-extraterrestrial relations and ensure peaceful and mutually beneficial interactions;
Ø Support international institutions that can ensure the peaceful use of those new technologies related to advanced energy and propulsion systems (see below).
In addition to the above, a less obvious — but perhaps equally pressing — threat to world peace arises from the fact that the covert control of this subject has resulted in the world being deprived of the new energy and propulsion technologies discussed earlier.
World poverty and a widening gap between rich and poor are serious threats to world peace that would be corrected by the disclosure and peaceful application of these technologies (see above). The real threat of war over a shrinking supply of fossil fuels in the next 10-20 years further underscores the need for this disclosure. What happens when the 4 billion people living in poverty want cars, electricity and other modern conveniences — all of which depend on fossil fuels? To any thinking person, it is obvious that we must transition quickly to the use of these now classified technologies — they are powerful solutions already sitting on a shelf.
Of course, a number of insiders have pointed out that these technologies are not your grandfather’s Oldsmobile: They are technological advances, like any other, that could be put to violent uses by terrorists, bellicose nations and madmen. But here we enter a catch 22: If these technologies are not forthcoming soon, we will face a certain meltdown in human civilization and the environment; if they are disclosed, immensely powerful new technologies will be out there for possible destructive uses.
In the near future, it is prudent to view humanity as likely to use any new technology violently. This means that international agencies must be created to ensure — and enforce — the exclusive peaceful use of such devices. The technologies exist today to link every such device to a GPS (Global Positioning System) monitor that could disable or render useless any device tampered with or used for anything put peaceful power generation and propulsion. These technologies should be regulated and monitored. And the international community must mature to a level of competence to ensure their exclusive peaceful use.
Any other use should be met with overwhelming resistance by every other nation on Earth.
Such a pact is the necessary next step. Maybe someday, humanity will live in peace without the need for such controls. But for now, the situation is like that of chained dogs — some strong leashes are warranted and are essential.
But such concerns cannot be a rationale for further delaying the disclosure of these technologies. We have the knowledge and means to ensure their safe and peaceful use — and these must be applied soon if we are to avoid further degradation of the environment and an escalation of world poverty and conflict.
In the final analysis, then, we are faced with a social and spiritual crisis that transcends any technological or scientific challenge. The technological solutions exit — but do we possess the will, wisdom and courage to apply them for the common good? The more one contemplates this matter the more it is obvious that we have one possible future: Peace. Peace on Earth and peace in space — a universal Peace, wisely enforced; for every other path leads to ruin
This then is the greatest challenge of the current era. Can our spiritual and social resources rise to this challenge? Nothing less than the destiny of the human race hangs in the balance.
NOTE: I believe the above to ALSO be at best a serious distortion of the whole, true picture. Whether the above is MORE distortion than conventional constructions on reality, or not, remains to be proven.
I certainly believe that conventional constructions on reality are ALSO WHOLESALE distortions--at least spiritually--but probably in a list of ways.
I also believe that Greer is likely [hopefully unwittingly] contributing to the rush toward a global world government.
And, from:
http://www.evworld.com/ Report Two from the SAE Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Workshops, Sacramento, CA. Feb 18-19, 2004
Hydrogen: How Shall We Store It?
By Bill Moore
Storing hydrogen is really pretty simple. Like any gas, you can compress it or cryogenically liquify it. There are even certain combinations of metals that act like sponges that will soak it up and when you apply some heat, they release it. There are also chemicals that can be stimulated to release pure hydrogen that fuel cell membranes love. And someday it might actually be possible to create artificial carbon sponges that could be both cheap and relatively light.
As was demonstrated at the SAE Hydrogen and Fuel Cell workshop in Sacramento Feb 18-19th, 2004, we don't want to solutions. Instead, what we want for is the perfect solution, which for the moment doesn't exist. All have their shortcomings, the principle one being the incontrovertible fact of physics that hydrogen, by volume, has only a fraction of the energy density of gasoline, the standard by which all alternative fuels are measured. Yet, progress is being made and here's what EV World learned.
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