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WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY
Kalona News ^ | Feb 15, 2004 | Ethel Bontrager

Posted on 03/03/2004 1:45:51 PM PST by 11th_VA

The following appeared in the Durham, N.C., local paper as a letter to the editor on Feb. 15, 2004.

Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11!

Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims:

FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled Al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

Worst president in history? Think about it!

Submitted by Ethel Bontrager


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jimmycarter; presidents
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Well said
1 posted on 03/03/2004 1:45:56 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
When I first saw the article title, I thought:

Wait a minute, Kerry hasn't even been elected yet.

2 posted on 03/03/2004 1:47:11 PM PST by lafroste
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To: 11th_VA
Good find. Thanks.
3 posted on 03/03/2004 1:47:20 PM PST by Kay
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To: 11th_VA
FDR's policies (all of them were basically socalist plans) during the depression turned it into the Great Depression.
4 posted on 03/03/2004 1:48:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: 11th_VA
Thanks for posting this...

Properly bookmarked

5 posted on 03/03/2004 1:49:18 PM PST by PeteFromMontana (The only IMPEACHED, DISBARRED President? A Democrat...remind your friends)
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To: 11th_VA
You know, I heard someone high up in the GOP in California give this very spiel the other day (listening on a radio station). It's very effective.
6 posted on 03/03/2004 1:49:31 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: 11th_VA
Well said!

As for the worst President in history, my votes goes to Jimmy Carter!
7 posted on 03/03/2004 1:50:51 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Prodigal Son
It is very effective.

For the record (and to my mind), FDR was the worst President in history.
8 posted on 03/03/2004 1:52:35 PM PST by NCPAC
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To: 11th_VA
Ethel has to be a freeper....
9 posted on 03/03/2004 1:55:48 PM PST by mystery-ak (*The cause of freedom is in good hands*....you betcha, Mr. President!)
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To: Iowa Granny
PING!!!!

Is this what you're looking for?

10 posted on 03/03/2004 1:55:48 PM PST by Carolina
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To: NCPAC
I agree (re FDR).
11 posted on 03/03/2004 1:56:09 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: NCPAC
For the record (and to my mind), FDR was the worst President in history.

I tend to agree. However, someone pointed out to me that the GDP grew at unprecedented rates during his tenure in office.

I know there's ammunition against that argument; I'm assuming it's because most of that growth went into the hands of the aristocracy. Could someone confirm/clarify this?

12 posted on 03/03/2004 1:57:12 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: NCPAC
Very good letter indeed.
Worst: Buchanan? FDR? Johnson? Clinton?
Best at least since TR: probably W
13 posted on 03/03/2004 2:00:11 PM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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To: 11th_VA
Does anyone have the figures on lives lost during Clinton's Bosnia episodes? For that matter, how many American service men and women lost their lives in all of Mr. Clinton's military escapades?
15 posted on 03/03/2004 2:04:09 PM PST by antceecee
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To: 11th_VA
Woodrow Wilson.......
16 posted on 03/03/2004 2:04:56 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: 11th_VA
Germany did declare war on us.

I guess that doesn't count.
17 posted on 03/03/2004 2:04:57 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Dan from Michigan
Woodrow Wilson - Worst in history.
18 posted on 03/03/2004 2:05:27 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: NCPAC
For the record (and to my mind), FDR was the worst President in history.

Ditto. Carter was the absolute worst. I still remember the price of bread and milk going up every week, people getting laid off, jobs lost, and he sat on his butt doing nothing (except making things worse). Then there was his fiasco sending helos into Iran to rescue our hostages, which should have never fell to the ayatollah in the first place. Reagan was a breath of fresh air once Carter got the boot.

19 posted on 03/03/2004 2:07:27 PM PST by roadcat
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To: MegaSilver
Keep in mind, government expenditures are included in GDP figures. So the economy might suck, all things being equal, but if the government spends a bunch of cash...

...(which causes it's own growth, but not as efficiently because choices are made politically vs. economically)...

...it will manifest itself in a larger GDP.

Clear as mud?

20 posted on 03/03/2004 2:08:31 PM PST by Check_Your_Premises (To crush your enemies, and see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the left)
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To: unspun
Best at least since TR: probably W.

Reagan beats that by a mile, especially the way he had to clean up after Carter.

Remember 21% interest rates?

21 posted on 03/03/2004 2:08:53 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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To: MegaSilver
Germany declared war on the United States immediately after Pearl Harbor, saving Roosevelt from whatever controversy might have existed about going after Germany whereas only Japan attacked us. Therefore, the use of the Germany example by conservatives is misplaced. Frankly, in many of the other examples we weren't directly attacked but an ally was.

In terms of good/bad presidents though, most people don't realize Truman did not seek reelection because Korea was going so badly. Ike concluded it quickly. Nixon got us out of Vietnam, not in. One does wonder how good roosevelt and even lincoln were. They are so immersed in the enormous events of their times it's hard to be objective.

22 posted on 03/03/2004 2:09:36 PM PST by Williams
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To: 11th_VA
read later
23 posted on 03/03/2004 2:10:47 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: 11th_VA
Claims that Dubya is the worst in history don't even deserve a rebuttal. jmho
24 posted on 03/03/2004 2:10:56 PM PST by squidly (Money is inconvenient for them: give them victuals and an arse-clout, it is enough.)
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To: 11th_VA
One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history.

Worst in history? Bush isn't even the worst in the 21st century. (And Clinton only had 19 1/2 days as president in this century.)

25 posted on 03/03/2004 2:18:35 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Maybe we can convince China that RINO horns are good medicine. Start hunting them to extinction.)
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To: unspun
Best at least since TR: probably W

W is not better than RONALDUS MAGNUS (aka Ronald Reagan)

26 posted on 03/03/2004 2:19:39 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: KarlInOhio
Worst in history? Bush isn't even the worst in the 21st century. (And Clinton only had 19 1/2 days as president in this century.)

Ha-ha! I've thrown that back into liberal faces. That Clinton is the worst president in two centuries - the 20th and the 21st!

27 posted on 03/03/2004 2:20:39 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Iowa Granny; Peach
IG, how did your speech go using this??

I'm printing it out to use over and over again as needed this campaign season.

28 posted on 03/03/2004 2:24:00 PM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: Rummyfan
As for the worst President in history, my votes goes to Jimmy Carter!

At least there is one list where he can be number one. Too bad the picture of him and the killer rabbit has been purged off the internet.

29 posted on 03/03/2004 2:27:42 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: 11th_VA
Except for the lies about FDR starting WWII and Truman the Korean War. In the first case Germany declared war on us and in the second the N. Koreans attacked our ally.
30 posted on 03/03/2004 2:29:14 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Thanks for saving me the trouble of pointing that out.

As soon as we declared war on Japan, Germany DID invoke her treaty with her ally, Japan, and declare war on us.

Much as I don't like FDR's policies, I would dislike the necessity learning German, speaking Japanese, and bowing to the Emperor even more.

We need to remember it is the 'Rats job to try to put ideology ahead of truth.
31 posted on 03/03/2004 2:32:05 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Check_Your_Premises
Keep in mind, government expenditures are included in GDP figures. So the economy might suck, all things being equal, but if the government spends a bunch of cash...

But shouldn't the resulting dead weight loss offset any growth in GDP due to larger government expenditures?

32 posted on 03/03/2004 2:39:24 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: NCPAC
FDR? He was bad, but I don't know.

I think Xlinton should be right up there in the running. He damaged us politically, socially, and militarily. We are still paying (with the worst payments yet to come as China's might is larger than its maturity, thanks to him) and may never recover.
33 posted on 03/03/2004 2:45:06 PM PST by FrogMom (There really ARE barbarians at the gate!)
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To: 11th_VA
Thanks for posting this! The author is one sharp cookie! I'm going to use some of this info myself in my next argument with my lib brother-in-law.
34 posted on 03/03/2004 2:47:18 PM PST by alwaysconservative (If it weren't for double standards, Democrats would have no standards at all.)
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To: Molly Pitcher
You have SUCH a good memory!
35 posted on 03/03/2004 2:47:59 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: roadcat
Plus, Carter said it was all our fault -- the 'American malaise', to be precise. Gas prices going through the roof, block long lines at gas stations, hostages, the inept rescue attempt, his constant carping and whining in that ridiculous accent. He turned down thermosats and highway speed limits, which only made the elderly sick and used up more gasoline. He dithered, afraid of making decisions, blamed everyone else. A jerk of the first water.
36 posted on 03/03/2004 2:50:06 PM PST by hershey
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Lib Alert
37 posted on 03/03/2004 2:50:28 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 Senate seats changes the world!! Bury Kerry in 04!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Woodrow Wilson - Worst in history.

That's what my parents have always said, but I haven't really delved into what the reasons are. Jimmah Carter has always gotten my vote as the worst President, even x42 was too paralyzed by his inadequacy/intern scandals to effectively promulgate much of lasting harm (apart from selling our nuclear secrets to the Chinese, I mean).

38 posted on 03/03/2004 2:50:48 PM PST by alwaysconservative (If it weren't for double standards, Democrats would have no standards at all.)
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To: alwaysconservative
I'm sure this has been posted before, but here's some more evidence of the left's hypocrisy which I found here:
www.mail-archive.com/sam11@erols.com/msg00208

Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle,
John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and
he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless
using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range
missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and
others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam
is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including
al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam
Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and
chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
39 posted on 03/03/2004 2:53:26 PM PST by modhom
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To: Rummyfan
BTTT
40 posted on 03/03/2004 2:59:07 PM PST by international american (Tagline for lease......no down payment@ OAC!!)
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To: 11th_VA
One could have added that the only leader in the history of the world to employ nuclear weapons on an enemy was a democrat.
41 posted on 03/03/2004 3:05:24 PM PST by highlander_UW
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To: roadcat
Yea, and don't forget all the Cubans he allowed into this country.
42 posted on 03/03/2004 3:09:13 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7; Carry_Okie
W is not better than RONALDUS...

Reagan gets less than best marks from unspun for Sandra Day O'Connor (and George H.W. Bush, who gave us Kennedy and Souter, to fill out the devastatingly tepid "Wimp Bloc").

I think W and RR are turning out to be very similar in their achievements in foreign policy and the economy, while seeming to be very challenged in controling the growth of federal government. If W continues to hold his high moral ground about our judicial appointments, I think he gets my nod as probably our best president since father Abraham and the original George W.

43 posted on 03/03/2004 3:10:09 PM PST by unspun (The uncontextualized life is not worth living. | I'm not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate.)
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To: 11th_VA
bump
44 posted on 03/03/2004 3:11:37 PM PST by dalebert
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To: unspun
I think W and RR are turning out to be very similar in their achievements in foreign policy and the economy, while seeming to be very challenged in controling the growth of federal government.

No offense but look at Reagans spending versus GW's. Not even close. I wish someone would put up the chart. Remember Reagan had a RAT congress/senate. GW has had Repubs in both houses. Reagan did great on economy especially after Peanut Butter Boy was in office.

45 posted on 03/03/2004 3:14:31 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: 11th_VA
Bump
46 posted on 03/03/2004 3:16:09 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: 11th_VA
Best: Washington (prevented the U.S. from establishing a de facto monarchy through the chief executive); Reagan (best of the 20th century; won the cold war and was the first president since FDR who fought the growth of the welfare state)
Worst: Lincoln (plunged America into civil war and caused the deaths of 600,000 Americans (assuming you agree the war was unjust))
47 posted on 03/03/2004 3:16:35 PM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: 11th_VA
excellent
48 posted on 03/03/2004 3:16:35 PM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: 11th_VA
Rather myopic, Ms. Bontrager. Believe it or not there were US presidents before 1930, quite a few in fact.
49 posted on 03/03/2004 3:17:37 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: 11th_VA
Do not forget the India/ Pakistan border- skirmishes, terrorist attacks in India, threats as well as near anihilations with atomoic weapons of either country.
Bush, supported by able negotiating tactics by Powell were not only able to prevent pending atomic war but in fact created a currently friendly cooperative engagement of both nations.
Perhaps the most valuable diplomatic victory since World War Two. Yet, forgotten and obscured by our media. Oh to not forget, also during explicit presidential debates by media questioners as well as presidential candidates.
50 posted on 03/03/2004 3:19:22 PM PST by hermgem
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