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Report on Judiciary memo snooping likely topic of Thursday meeting
Associated Press ^ | March 3, 2004 | Jesse Holland

Posted on 03/03/2004 5:18:09 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly

From the AP:

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Report on Judiciary memo snooping likely topic of Thursday meeting

JESSE J. HOLLAND,

Associated Press

March 3, 2004

Senate investigators wrapped up their probe Wednesday into how Democratic computer memos on judicial nominees got into GOP hands as senators prepared for a public debate on who's to blame.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and ranking Democrat Patrick Leahy of Vermont got a private briefing by Sergeant-at-Arms William Pickle and his investigators. The committee is expected to hash out the report at a Thursday hearing.

But it was not yet clear when or if the report, which investigators have been compiling since November, would be publicly released. The committee might discuss the report in a closed meeting before considering a public release, Hatch said Wednesday.

Hatch began the investigation after Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., protested what they said was the theft of the memos from their computer servers.

The memos, concerning political strategy on blocking confirmation of several of President Bush's judicial nominations, were obtained and reported by The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times.

Conservatives have talked up the memos as proof the Democrats colluded with outside liberal groups in their choices of which Bush appellate nominees to block, and at least one ethics complaint has been filed against Durbin based on the leaked information.

Working with Secret Service agents and General Dynamics computer technicians, investigators have conducted more than 100 interviews and seized several computers.

Senators said last month that preliminary information from Pickle's investigators showed that the computer intrusion went on for at least two years starting in 2001, and that thousands of documents were downloaded.

Only a small number of Senate Republican staffers were involved, and no senators were, Judiciary committee members said. However, Democrats still want to know if the White House, the Justice Department or any of President Bush's judicial nominees from that time period used the information to anticipate Democratic questions and attacks.

And some senators have suggested that Republican computer files might also have been snooped into as well.

Two Senate employees, an unnamed Hatch staffer and Manuel Miranda, who worked for Hatch and then Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., left because of the investigation.

Miranda, who said he read the Democratic memos but has denied breaking into the Democratic computers, has said he did nothing wrong or illegal. But Democrats, Hatch and several Republican senators have criticized him for reading the confidential documents.


TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collusionmemos; estradamemo; judicialmemos; judicialnominees; mannymiranda; manuelmiranda; memogate; naacpmemo
Get ready to rumble.
1 posted on 03/03/2004 5:18:11 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly
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To: diotima; Bob J; abner; Interesting Times; jmstein7
PING!!!
2 posted on 03/03/2004 5:19:16 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Hatch will apologize just for the heck of it, can't we just get along, NO.
3 posted on 03/03/2004 5:21:24 PM PST by boomop1
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To: boomop1
I was fascinated to note that the other day Hatch was quoted in the Deseret News saying that "conservative groups inside the beltway" needed to "grow up" and recognize that "there is a difference between right and wrong."

Yes, Senator, there is a difference between right and wrong. The difference is that we don't take our cues on the whole right/wrong thing from Ted Kennedy.
4 posted on 03/03/2004 5:23:49 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: All
Free the Miranda memos BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 posted on 03/03/2004 5:26:26 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
If Patrick Leahy knows about it, we'll hear all the details tomorrow. He has a hard time keeping his mouth shut.
6 posted on 03/03/2004 5:27:45 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Not likely.....Hatch will cave and give Leahy what he wants.
7 posted on 03/03/2004 5:31:15 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: RightWingMama
Yep. Ol' Leaky Leahy. Was kicked off the Intell Committee in the late 80's cause of his propensity to leak.

Would be worth the price of admission just to watch Kennedy torque into orbit on this....twisting himself into a pretzel trying to spin this as somehow "criminal."

Make no mistake -- their press releases have been written for weeks. They are determined that they are going to try to divert attention away from the content of the memos.
8 posted on 03/03/2004 5:32:47 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Dog
When I say, "get ready to rumble", I am not referring to Senator Hatch.

Oh no, my friend, I know better than that.

Let's just say it was sort of a "note to self."

9 posted on 03/03/2004 5:35:38 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: All
bump!!!!!!
10 posted on 03/03/2004 5:38:09 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Hatch seems like a good conservative until it comes to the crunch, and then somehow or other he always does the wrong thing. He inevitably lets the side down when it really counts.
11 posted on 03/03/2004 5:39:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Paul Weyrich of Free Congress Foundation calls it a "congenital need to be liked."

Not sure myself what it is. During the Miguel Estrada debate on the floor, there was no one who pushed harder for him and no one who stayed longer in the fight -- and he did it with a couple of herniated disks.

Darned if I understand this, though.
12 posted on 03/03/2004 5:45:50 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Conservatives have talked up the memos as proof the Democrats colluded with outside liberal groups in their choices of which Bush appellate nominees to block

"reported" as if it's not possible to go back to the WSJ coverage and see what the leaked memos actually said.

I work at a newspaper (not in news) and am continuously embarrassed by the state of the journalism industry.

13 posted on 03/03/2004 5:52:38 PM PST by irv
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To: irv
Want to see the memos, Irv?

Go to my website -- www.fairjudiciary.com -- the fourteen original memos are there. But there are apparently more that haven't been released.
14 posted on 03/03/2004 5:55:16 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
FREE THE DANG MEMOS ALREADY!

This is good news...
15 posted on 03/03/2004 6:00:00 PM PST by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Want to see the memos, Irv?

That was my point: That it's easy to find out what's in the memos. But the *&^!$%@ press acts like the only thing they have to go on is what somebody says about them. They don't even do the most basic homework!

I know better than to expect anything else, but it still annoys the hell out of me.

16 posted on 03/03/2004 6:01:59 PM PST by irv
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To: ConservativeGadfly
ping
17 posted on 03/03/2004 6:04:00 PM PST by diotima (Free the Miranda Memos!)
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To: irv
I agree wholeheartedly. Wasn't what I learned in J School.

Literally, I never cease to be amazed at the inaccuracy displayed in just about every story.

18 posted on 03/03/2004 6:04:46 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
...there is a difference between right and wrong...

What Hatch has forgotten is there is an even larger and difference between right and left.

19 posted on 03/03/2004 6:09:48 PM PST by Bob J (www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
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To: diotima
hey.....i pinged you first!!!
20 posted on 03/03/2004 6:10:38 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
After the two hundredth time I had to tell a reporter something like, "Even if you are on deadline, I can't restore a document if you never once saved it before your PC locked up. I'm sorry you lost five hours of work, but I can't bring back a file that never existed in the first place." I reached the point of being almost amazed at accuracy in any story.

I was once told (by someone who had been in the newsroom almost 30 years) that sports reporters are stupid and business beat reporters are smart. I bit my tongue to keep from explaining that the actual difference between their IQs is pretty small.

21 posted on 03/03/2004 6:19:23 PM PST by irv
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Ping you're it!
22 posted on 03/03/2004 6:19:35 PM PST by diotima (Free the Miranda Memos!)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
BTTT!
23 posted on 03/03/2004 6:53:31 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Go Go Go!
24 posted on 03/03/2004 7:22:15 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: diotima; ConservativeGadfly
Can I join this ping party?
25 posted on 03/03/2004 7:26:26 PM PST by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Cicero
I have been wondering about the lack of resolve (backbone)of the Republicans. It seems that this started about 1996.
http://www.townhall.com/documents/contract.html
The “Contract With America” 1994: As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.

http://www.epic.org/privacy/databases/fbi/filegate/
In June 1996, it was revealed that the White House had requested and obtained the FBI records on over 400 individuals without their permission. Other unconfirmed news reports now say that as many as 900 files might have been pulled.
Maybe this is just a coincidence???
26 posted on 03/03/2004 7:32:55 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy
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To: abner
Absolutely!
27 posted on 03/03/2004 7:39:03 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: irv
I was once told (by someone who had been in the newsroom almost 30 years) that sports reporters are stupid and business beat reporters are smart. I bit my tongue to keep from explaining that the actual difference between their IQs is pretty small.

And if they start to flunk out of journalism school they can always succeed in ed school (flame away, but it's true).

28 posted on 03/03/2004 7:44:10 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: ConservativeGadfly; diotima
Reping!
29 posted on 03/03/2004 11:02:01 PM PST by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: ConservativeGadfly
Yes -- journalism today is "get (relate/publish) the story the editor or journalist wants; facts are irrelevant, really, like, really....

Sometimes I feel badly for the mainstream media; they got so spoiled by the Democratic party, the mainstream news is struggling, IMHO, to remember what it is they actually are "supposed" to be doing?

30 posted on 03/05/2004 6:46:32 AM PST by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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