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Krauthammer: "Gibson's Blood Libel"
Washington Post ^ | Mar. 5, 04 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 03/04/2004 10:24:16 PM PST by churchillbuff

Edited on 03/05/2004 10:48:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Gibson's Blood Libel

By Charles Krauthammer Friday, March 5, 2004; Page A23

Every people has its story. Every people has the right to its story. And every people has a responsibility for its story. ...[snip]

Christians have their story too: the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Why is this story different from other stories? Because it is not a family affair of coreligionists. If it were, few people outside the circle of believers would be concerned about it. This particular story involves other people. With the notable exception of a few Romans, these people are Jews. And in the story, they come off rather badly.

Because of that peculiarity, the crucifixion is not just a story; it is a story with its own story -- a history of centuries of relentless, and at times savage, persecution of Jews in Christian lands. This history is what moved Vatican II, in a noble act of theological reflection, to decree in 1965 that the Passion of Christ should henceforth be understood with great care so as to unteach the lesson that had been taught for almost two millennia: that the Jews were Christ killers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bigot; clueless; fool; gibson; krauthammer; liberalchristian; missingthemark; moron; moviereview; passion
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To: Sabertooth
"Since you addressed this to "All," I suggest you remove the plank from your own eye, and more thoroughly read the thread."

And I'd suggest that you take strong note that my post starts out:

"I think many of you are overreacting to the commentary and vastly misinterpreting it."

When I was in school I was taught that "many," does not mean all. There are some good posts here. I was not refering to them, and I only addressed my post generally to "all," because I didn't see the need to single out anyone in particular. Obviously, I stuck a nerve with you.
721 posted on 03/05/2004 10:51:08 AM PST by The Hound Passer (Sitting home in protest this Nov is a vote for Kerry and Co.)
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To: ClancyJ
Looks like Jews are so self-centered...They cannot get beyond them,them,them,them.

Oh, I didn't know that. I'll have to keep that in mind when interacting with my Jewish friends. Do you have more helpful insights about any other peoples?

If you think that about Krauthammer or some other Jewish commentators, fine. No need to indict all the Jews.

722 posted on 03/05/2004 10:52:05 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: F16Fighter; rbmillerjr
Note: I stated it was patently to say Krauthammer is being anti-christian. What Krauthammer attributes to Gibson, is something attributed to ONE Christian. Again lets try to be objective here.
723 posted on 03/05/2004 10:53:44 AM PST by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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To: Agnes Heep
The other one that springs to mind is Islam--another offshoot of Judaism that just can't seem to coexist with Jews.

Islam is not an offshoot like Christianity is of Judaism. Christianity was founded by Jews in the Jewish homeland. Islam was not.

724 posted on 03/05/2004 10:55:33 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: F16Fighter; rbmillerjr
Patently false that is, sorry for the error.
725 posted on 03/05/2004 10:55:58 AM PST by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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To: Just mythoughts
What exactly is tolerance and sanity to you?
    Let's start with the basics.
  1. No profanity
  2. No personal attacks
  3. If someone purports to represent Yeshua of Nazareth and wants to claim the name of Christian, the least they could do, the very least, is walk in subjection to the rules laid out to them in the books of the New Testament regarding conversation and behavior.
  4. I don't have the above expectations for the unrighteous and the unholy. They do whatsoever they will.

726 posted on 03/05/2004 10:56:29 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: drlevy88
Jesus said to be cursed and hated because of him is a blessing (paraphrasing). Every time I hear the slander and libel, I think of Satan screaming after Jesus has died on the cross as portrayed in the film. I'm not worried about Mel...I think he get's it.
727 posted on 03/05/2004 10:57:07 AM PST by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Sabertooth
What an absolutely heartfelt and beautiful piece of writing! God Bless you!
728 posted on 03/05/2004 10:57:10 AM PST by AlbionGirl ("Ha cambiato occhi per la coda.")
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To: af_vet_1981
and what scripture would you use?
729 posted on 03/05/2004 10:58:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Grigeo
The Bolshevist Movement was a Jewish movement, but not a movement of the Jewish race as a whole. Most Jews were quite extraneous to it; very many indeed, and those of the most typical, abhor it; many actively combat it. The imputation of its evils to the Jews as a whole is a grave injustice ... "

I'm familiar with that quote and agree with it completely. But it doesn't contradict Solzhenitsyn's claim that, after the revolution, Lenin needed "intelligent, sober, and new clerks" who were dedicated to the communist system and so he opened the bureaucracies to Jews who "flooded and abounded in the lower layers of the party structure."

730 posted on 03/05/2004 11:02:48 AM PST by DentsRun
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To: miloklancy
"Note: I stated it was patently to say Krauthammer is being anti-christian. What Krauthammer attributes to Gibson, is something attributed to ONE Christian. Again lets try to be objective here"

If we are being objective then we cannot ignore that Gibson actually took out the Word of God, "the alleged "blood libel verse, ....and His blood be on us and our children, out of the movie as an affirmative step to pacify Jews.

Hardly somebody who is guilty of perpetuating blood libel.
731 posted on 03/05/2004 11:03:05 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Grigeo
Looks like enough blood(blame) to go around.
732 posted on 03/05/2004 11:07:10 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: The Hound Passer
"Since you addressed this to "All," I suggest you remove the plank from your own eye, and more thoroughly read the thread."

And I'd suggest that you take strong note that my post starts out:

"I think many of you are overreacting to the commentary and vastly misinterpreting it."

When I was in school I was taught that "many," does not mean all. There are some good posts here. I was not refering to them, and I only addressed my post generally to "all," because I didn't see the need to single out anyone in particular. Obviously, I stuck a nerve with you.

You struck a nerve because "All" means "all." You wrote both "all" and "many."

You think your meaning or intentions are clear?

In a thread full of blood libels and religious smears, now including your own, you ought to do better than wade into it as indiscriminately as you did.

Yes, you do have an obligation to be specific and precise.


733 posted on 03/05/2004 11:07:35 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: Just mythoughts
and what scripture would you use?


734 posted on 03/05/2004 11:08:41 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
So we are back to Balaam.

Shall we go to King Jehu and his story.
735 posted on 03/05/2004 11:10:38 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Sabertooth
Defense of the film, Chiristianity, and Christians against those who would accuse us of anti-Semitism where it doesn't exist continues.

Eloquently phrased. Yes it does, and yes it will continue.

736 posted on 03/05/2004 11:11:06 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: rbmillerjr
LOL, it is Krauthammer that slanders Giblson, and thus Christians as well. He accuses Gibson of "blood libel".
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HUM--by Libel does he mean 'The publication of blasphemous, treasonable, seditious writings and pictures?Websters)'

Is Krauthammer a neo-Caiaphas?
737 posted on 03/05/2004 11:16:37 AM PST by juzcuz
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To: Mamzelle
In addition to the disdain and disgust eminating from so many toward Christians, there's also the added insult of condescension. Well, just because Christians support Israel doesn't mean that they're too stupid to realize the contempt in which they are held.

You seem to keep repeating this train of thought. There is no need to pretend to be a supporter of Israel. People are not that dense. Just declare yourself to be an adversary and move on.

738 posted on 03/05/2004 11:17:07 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Stewart_B
****If you read it you will see that the Jews were calling for Jesus' death and that they even said "let his blood be on our heads and that of our children".****

"The Jews" This is what Krauthammer is saying. You hold yourself up as some kind of superior Christian. You have already denigrated my faith.

and then you say "The Jews'. It was SOME Jews. A corrupt leader and a rent-a-mob.
739 posted on 03/05/2004 11:17:51 AM PST by mercy
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To: Just mythoughts
So we are back to Balaam.

We have been on Balaam for centuries and many Jews have died because of it.

740 posted on 03/05/2004 11:18:24 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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