NRA President's Testimony During Congressional Debate of the National Firearms Act of 1934

KeepAndBearArms.com ^ | APRIL 16, 18, AND MAY 14, 15, AND 16, 1934 | Transcript from U.S. Government Printing Office

[TERMINATTOR]

The NRA is America's oldest and most despised "gun control" orginization. The Brady Bunch are mere babes in the woods by comparison.

Molon Labe!

[TERMINATTOR]

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[Cboldt]

*bump* placemaker

[philetus]

Anyone who gives money to the NRA should not bitch about gun laws.

[TERMINATTOR]

Post to the Tyranny Response Team list.

[I got the rope]

I dared to mention this very thing to a bunch of NRAbots on this forum awhile back and I was flamed to no end. I don't give a dime to the NRA, nor does any family member of mine. How many times have they caved for "sensible gun laws"? They make me sick. Join Gun Owners of America!

[philetus]

I'll probably get flamed. Some people don't do research for themselves.

[Fun Bob]

Wow! Thank you for this. This is one of the best things I've yet seen posted on FREEP. The NFA should have been struck down in Miller vs. US. Unfortunately, they major judicial precedence on the Second Amendment that we have involved a Hillbilly who disapeared and a backwater lawyer who thought it was too much trouble to travel to Washington to defend this case (I dont' recall, maybe Miller's lawyer didn't even know about the appeal, because I don't think he even filed a brief). We need GWB re-elected plain and simple. It is only a conservative court that will revisit Miller and bring us closer to ridding us of this burden to our freedom. I am going to spend the weekend digesting this post.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure

[genefromjersey]

Hey ! Don't blame me ! I was only 2 or 3 months old then.

[Who is John Galt?]

Join Gun Owners of America!

The problem is this - most gun owners are not members of either NRA or GOA. And I suspect most gun owners do not even vote. When we vote, we move mountains - in 1994, about 1 out of every 5 voters was a gun owner voting Republican (meaning we probably constituted about 40% of the Republican vote). Allow me to suggest that donating to NRA (and voting for the RKBA ;>) is better than doing nothing... and donating to GOA (and voting for the RKBA ;>) is better than donating to NRA.

FWIW, I'm a member of both GOA & NRA...and I vote.

;>)

[I got the rope]

Hey do you live in Gonzales? I moved over here from Luling. Great tagline!

[Who is John Galt?]

Hey do you live in Gonzales? I moved over here from Luling.

Unfortunately - no. We have friends in Texas, and we were trying to move to Texas, but the closest I could get (via transfer ;>) was New Mexico. When we got to New Mexico, we had a Republican Governor, one Republican Senator, and a Republican Representative. We lost the first when Bill 'Hey-driver-I'm-late-for-a-party-so-let's-get-this-limo-up-to-110-mph-in-downtown-Albuquerque!' Richardson was elected. But it still beats the heck out of 'The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia'...

(Which doesn't mean I won't jump at an opportunity to get to Texas... ;>)

[yarddog]

I didn't read the entire article but think I got the gist of it.

I have been critical of the NRA on this forum but to be fair the NRA today is not the same as in 1934 or even 1968. It is a lot better but still not what it should be.

[45Auto]

The NFA was sold as a tax bill; little did the NRA know that it would serve as a (unconstitutional) precedent for every other federal infringement on the 2nd that has come along since. All federal gun laws are unconstitutional. The overt negative prejudice seen in nearly every federal court case involving firearms since 1934, including the infamous Miller case, more than suggests that we have been living in a "soft" tyranny since the New Deal. It is so bad that neither Congress nor the courts give a RAT's butt about what the Constitution allows or disallows. It is the LAST document that they might consult (but unlikely) before writing legislation. The fault is with the morons who live and vote in this country who by inaction and just plain laziness have allowed the professional political class (including judges appointed for life) to usurp power way beyond what was intended by the Founders. Now, its becoming clear that we are way beyond the "point of no return" in setting this right without major civil unrest.

Now, there is an enormous body of case law and legislative precedent built up; so much in fact, that there is NEVER a debate about the Constitutionality of any legislation proposed by our Ruling Class. Oh, but the bastards are aware of the possibility of unconstitutional law, since every bill put forth now contains a severance clause that says that if any part of the bill is later found to be unconstitutional, then the other parts of the law still stand.

Its a cop-out and a fraud, but they (every Congress since the Founding) have gotten away with it, because no one wants to do what might be necessary to rectify the problem: namely, impeachment or hanging.

[Rytwyng]

Cut them a little slack. Back in 1934 nobody imagined that there'd someday be a move for total civilian disarmanent. The seemingly reasonable and modest restrictions then proposed -- though they were still, in principle, wrong -- did not ring quite the alarm bells that they do today... unfortunately. If only our grandfathers had been a bit more paranoid....

[JOAT]

Ping

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Interesting!

[TERMINATTOR]

In 1934 the NRA only supported a small handfull of illegal legislative acts. Today they support massive lawlessness aka "enforce existing 'gun laws'". They undermine respect for the rule of law, and encourage and support treason in our government.

How is the NRA "better today", for anyone except tryants?

[yarddog]

Hey, you are preaching to the choir here.

I completely agree the NRA has been way to willing to compromise. They also seem to put the interests of the industry ahead of the citizen.

The fact is tho that the NRA is way better than it was. During the 1968 fight, they were simply on the other side, at least as far as banning the import of cheap handguns and forbidding the reimportation of American military guns. That last part was repealed in a strange bit of cooperation by such people as Ted Kennedy back in the 80's.

I think the NRA is basically against more control but are willing to sell out our rights in order to preserve others. I do not agree with that.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***How is the NRA "better today", for anyone except tryants?***

Well, back then if you wanted to join the NRA you needed to get the signature of a government agent, that is, a police officer, postal officer, military officer ect, confirming you are a citizen in good standing.

Today you just send in the card and payment and you are in!