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To: bluefish
I do not believe it is possible to politically or tactically remove 8-12 million unknown human beings, many with legal family members... it won't happen, so alternative options have to be explored.
103 posted on 03/06/2004 9:31:57 PM PST by Porterville (random acts of kindness? Hate free zones? Kindness is in every act of hate I do.)
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To: Porterville
I do not believe it is possible to politically or tactically remove 8-12 million unknown human beings, many with legal family members...

We'll never know, will we? The cowardly politicians in Washington won't even make an effort.

Since you're in California like I am, I must assume that you don't mind paying your share of the billions of dollars that illegal aliens in this state cost the taxpayers. I must assume that you don't mind that we're now being forced to build new schools because the illegal aliens are overburdening our schools. I assume that you don't care that our emergency rooms are overburdened, some are closing because of it, and that we have to pay the medical bills for millions of illegal aliens. Can I send you the bill for the portion I'm responsible for? I don't feel like paying it. I have my own family to support, I don't want to support the families of border hoppers.

106 posted on 03/06/2004 9:37:13 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Porterville
I do not believe it is possible to politically or tactically remove 8-12 million unknown human beings, many with legal family members... it won't happen, so alternative options have to be explored.

Of course it isn't possible. But you are wasting your breath on this bunch.

The administration has already written them off and so should we. Let them vote for perouka. He got 23,000 votes in the California primary.

Goodnight to you and the one or two other sensible folks on this thread.

108 posted on 03/06/2004 9:39:20 PM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: Porterville; bluefish
103-"I do not believe it is possible to politically or tactically remove 8-12 million unknown human beings, many with legal family members..."



XBob's plan:

1. Illegal's responsibility - caught illegals can never return to or work in US
2. Illegal's responsibility - Anchor babies - no longer allowed.
3. Illegal's responsibility - No SSI benefits for illegals.
4. Illegal's responsibility - No IR$ refunds for illegals.

1. Employer responsibility - 1st illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home.
2. Employer responsibility - 2nd illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus another caught by INS.
3. Employer responsibility - 3rd illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus 3 caught by INS.
4. Employer responsibility - 4th illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus 4 caught by INS.
5. Employer responsibility - 5th illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus 5 caught by INS.
etc, etc etc

Results:
Gradualally escalating returns of illegals, lots of self returns, illegals make money for govt rather than cost money.

7 - This plan is rough, but would work. What if FReepers we were add to/polish it up a bit, but keeping it very simple, and make a serious political proposal out of it?

Perhaps add something like migrant workers could only be hired in their country of origin, would have to come directly from it to their job, and be allowed to remain for only one harvest season, or 6 months, or something?

Let's do something constructive, rather than just bitch!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1062207/posts?page=9#9

Any illegals who receive medical/food aid at taxpayer's expense will have 25% of their wages deducted until debt is paid. Mexico must also agree to do the same on any wages the worker earns there.

Employers who wish to employ these willing workers must agree to pay any remaining amount their workers take from the social services support system that these workers do not repay.

12 posted on 01/21/2004 10:43:12 AM CST by Helix (Here's to hoping I've proofread

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"Actually, we need to give them a couple of years hard labor if we catch them, then send them back. Make crossing the border illegally something that doesn't pay off.

Just think what kind of border fence we could build with 12 million prisoners filling the fence building jobs Americans didn't want to fill."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1077196/posts?page=174#174

Your plan has many good points, but there is one you've missed and it's glaringly obvious. How about making a REAL effort to seal off border lands BETWEEN legal border crossings?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1077196/posts?page=272#272
366 posted on 03/07/2004 4:17:19 PM PST by XBob
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