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Capturing Osama
New York Sun ^ | March 9, 2004 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 03/09/2004 6:48:20 AM PST by yoe

Osama bin Laden's capture or death, the focus of renewed American military attention, would greatly help the war on terror — but not in the way you might expect.

It would not do that much to prevent jihadist violence.

True, in some cases, seizing a terrorist leader leads directly to a reduction in threat or even to the decomposition of his organization. Consider these examples :

Abimael Guzman, head of the Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path) gang in Peru, was captured in 1992 and his Maoist organization went into a tailspin, ending its threat to overturn the government. A rump force in turn continued to fight until its leader, Oscar Ramirez Durand, was captured in 1999.

Abdullah Öcalan, leader of the Partiya Karkaren Kurdistan (Worker's Party of Kurdistan) or PKK in Turkey, was captured in 1999 and his Maoist organization immediately deteriorated. When Öcalan called from captivity for the PKK to renounce its war against the Turkish state, it effectively did so.

Saddam Hussein, former dictator of Iraq, was captured in December 2003, and the terrorist insurgency he headed over the previous eight months shuddered to an end. (In contrast, militant Islamic violence continued unabated.)

Terrorist specialist Michael Radu points out that the same pattern also held with the capture of leaders of smaller terrorist groups, including Andreas Baader of Germany's Rote Armee (Red Army) and Shoko Asahara of Japan's Aum Shinrikyo. A similar steep decline, Mr. Radu notes, will likely recur should Velupillai Prabhakaran of Sri Lanka's Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) be captured or killed.

In all these cases, the leaders offer characteristics — charisma, power, ruthlessness — critical to their organizations. If no other figure can replace these strengths, then rivalries, incoherence, and decline result.

But Mr. bin Laden's elimination in several ways would not fit this pattern.

Being only one of his organization's key figures, his disappearance will not devastate Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is more "an ideology, an agenda and a way of seeing the world," writes Jason Burke, author of Al-Qaeda : Casting a Shadow of Terror, than an operating terrorist force.
And Al Qaeda being just one of many jihadist organizations around the world, its decline would do little to abate the wave of militant Islamic violence in such places as Algeria, Egypt, the Palestinian territories, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Bangladesh, and the Philippines.
While Mr. bin Laden personally symbolizes militant Islam and his continued ability to elude coalition force inspires his Islamist followers, his capture or execution would have a mainly psychological impact by demoralizing those followers. His elimination would certainly be a blow to his movement, but one it could readily recover from. "His capture won't end terrorism's danger," Robert Andrews rightly noted in a recent USA Today article.

Ending terrorism requires more than targeting terrorists, their leaders, or their organizations. It requires recognizing and defeating the body of ideas known as militant Islam or Islamism. The war cannot be won until politicians and others focus on this ideology rather than on terrorism, which is merely its manifestation.

This said, Mr. bin Laden's capture or death could indeed have a major beneficial impact on the war on terror — by helping to re-elect President Bush against his presumptive Democratic opponent. Who wins the forthcoming presidential election will deeply affect the future conduct of the global war on terror. To adopt Fred Barnes's formulation in the Weekly Standard, "George W. Bush is a September 12 person. John Kerry is a September 10 person." Just as Saddam Hussein's capture in December helped to end Howard Dean's candidacy for president, so Mr. bin Laden's capture might harm Senator Kerry's.

That's because Mr. Kerry has lashed out at the way the war on terror is conducted, blaming Mr. Bush for everything from faulty tactics (allowing Mr. bin Laden to escape near capture in Tora Bora), to poor strategy ("Only an ad hoc strategy to keep our enemies at bay"), to an overall failed policy ("The most arrogant, inept, reckless and ideological foreign policy in modern history.") Mr. Kerry goes so far as to claim that America is worse off now than on September 11, 2001.

Such over-the-top criticisms render Mr. Kerry vulnerable should Mr. bin Laden actually be caught or killed. Which makes catching or killing Mr. bin Laden truly an urgent war imperative.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; binladen; dangerous; danielpipes; kerry; obl; reckless; terrorism
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1 posted on 03/09/2004 6:48:21 AM PST by yoe
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2 posted on 03/09/2004 6:49:43 AM PST by jla (http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com)
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To: yoe
Capturing or killing would be a benifit to all of mankind, just as it would be with any homicidal madman. This reporter is nothing but a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples.
3 posted on 03/09/2004 7:02:43 AM PST by airborne (lead by example)
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To: yoe
So the media is who kept on asking "Why Bush hasn't gotten Bin Laden" is now saying when they get him it won't matter???????

Wrong, really wrong. When Saddam Hussein meekly surrendered the Arab world went into mourning over his capture and his lack of resistance, to the point of denial. Iraqi resistance against the coalition has been subdued in a major way.

4 posted on 03/09/2004 7:06:54 AM PST by pfflier
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To: airborne
I think he's spot on with his assessment here:

This said, Mr. bin Laden's capture or death could indeed have a major beneficial impact on the war on terror — by helping to re-elect President Bush against his presumptive Democratic opponent. Who wins the forthcoming presidential election will deeply affect the future conduct of the global war on terror. To adopt Fred Barnes's formulation in the Weekly Standard, "George W. Bush is a September 12 person. John Kerry is a September 10 person." Just as Saddam Hussein's capture in December helped to end Howard Dean's candidacy for president, so Mr. bin Laden's capture might harm Senator Kerry's.

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That's not manure at all.
5 posted on 03/09/2004 7:13:46 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: airborne
Capturing or killing would be a benifit to all of mankind, just as it would be with any homicidal madman.

I think history tells us that when you have an autocratic regime like Saddam's, where decisions are made at the top and independent action is suicidal, it makes sense to emphasize the leadership as a center of gravity.

When you are dealing with cell based, ideologically driven, loosely knit organizations it does not.

I think dismantling the ideological and logistic infrastructure becomes much more important. Getting leaders without it may make martyrs out of them. Although this is a cynical thing to say, the attacks focusing on Muslims is probably hurting the Islamic radicals ideologically and transformational in the area.

6 posted on 03/09/2004 7:19:07 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous. T.B.)
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To: yoe
Ending terrorism requires more than targeting terrorists, their leaders, or their organizations. It requires recognizing and defeating the body of ideas known as militant Islam or Islamism. The war cannot be won until politicians and others focus on this ideology rather than on terrorism, which is merely its manifestation.

John Kerry is not up to that task. Not by a long shot.

7 posted on 03/09/2004 7:21:49 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
From what I've read of Kerry's proposals,

he offers nothing but pulling back from the WoT,

beefing up our "responders",

basically letting them attack again and having bigger cleanup crews.
8 posted on 03/09/2004 7:25:50 AM PST by MrB
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To: airborne
The Kerry supporting main stream media is doing a preemptive strike in advance of OBL's capture to try and deflect Bush's bump in the polls.
9 posted on 03/09/2004 7:28:51 AM PST by freedom1st
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To: pfflier
So the media is who kept on asking "Why Bush hasn't gotten Bin Laden" is now saying when they get him it won't matter???????

This guy said nothing like that.

10 posted on 03/09/2004 7:30:41 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: airborne
In one sense the hunt for OBL has everything to do with fighting the war on terror. In another sense, it's all about justice. As our Commander in Chief declared: we will bring our enemises to justice or we will bring justice to them.
11 posted on 03/09/2004 7:33:33 AM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Prodigal Son
The aothor wrote, "It would not do that much to prevent jihadist violence."

I strongly disagree.

In addition to getting rid of a scumbag lunatic, it sends a message of doom and despair to other scumbag terrorists. Helping reelect President Bush is a wonderful added bonus.
12 posted on 03/09/2004 7:33:50 AM PST by airborne (lead by example)
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To: yoe
Getting OBL won't end the war on terror, but it sure is one of a series of requirements for ending it.
13 posted on 03/09/2004 7:36:58 AM PST by Ranger
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To: yoe
This said, Mr. bin Laden's capture or death could indeed have a major beneficial impact on the war on terror — by helping to re-elect President Bush against his presumptive Democratic opponent

Indeed

14 posted on 03/09/2004 8:41:09 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: airborne
I strongly disagree.

History is not on your side though. The jihadists have been doing this for decades before bin Laden ever hit the scene.

They will continue to do so even after bin Laden is gone. Maybe not al Qaeda, but there are other groups. As sure as we kill one off, others will rise.

This is so inevitable that you may as well view it as a fact. You will likely never experience a life where there is not a band of jihadis out there blowing themselves up and killing people.

15 posted on 03/09/2004 8:49:19 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: dead
You are right about this article. The point I was making was a generalization of what I have heard over the past several months.

The media has been hammering the President on "priorities" i.e. why did he shift the focus of the war on terrorism to Iraq when he can't produce Bin Laden.

Now that it appears that he is close to being captured, the media is diluting the significance of Bin Laden's capture so that it won't give the President a "bump" in the polls.

16 posted on 03/09/2004 8:59:31 AM PST by pfflier
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To: airborne
'This reporter is nothing but a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples.'

Great line! ^5's

17 posted on 03/09/2004 9:46:23 AM PST by moonman
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To: yoe
Even Pipes seems to be going soft in fingering the Saudis.

18 posted on 03/09/2004 10:38:22 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: pfflier
So the media is who kept on asking "Why Bush hasn't gotten Bin Laden" is now saying when they get him it won't matter???????

This is not what he is saying. He is saying the world needs to fight militant Islam, which causes terrorism. Going after terrorism will not be enough, one has to go at the root. So getting Bin Laden will not stop this terrorism.

19 posted on 03/10/2004 1:16:19 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: airborne
It doesn't matter how many terrorists the US kills or captures. As long as the death ideology of Militant Islam exists, more terrorists will come out of its factory.
20 posted on 03/10/2004 1:18:10 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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