What Would America Be Like If Gay Marriages Were Validated?

Agape Press ^ | 3-12-04 | James L. Lambert

[truthandlife]

From Rosie O'Donnell to spokespersons from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance, gay marriage proponents are quick to tell us that opposition to gay marriage is not only "hateful" but an infringement of homosexuals' civil rights. With each passing day, we hear more and more inflammatory remarks from activists who are hell-bent on changing forever the definition of traditional marriage as we know it.

The topic of "gay marriage" has riddled the headlines of local papers and occupied the nation's social consciousness over the last five weeks. However, one line of thinking has not be adequately debated: what would America be like if gay marriage would be legally validated? Three prominent California advocates for traditional marriage have recently provided their thoughts on that prospect.

Paul McGuire, a conservative radio talk-show host for Crawford Broadcasting Corp., speaks to a large syndicated audience every weekday afternoon from his studio in Los Angeles. McGuire believes that if gay marriage is adopted, "5,000 years of civilization will be affected." He realistically predicts that there will not only be a social chaos from such a trend, but legal validation will also result in "a moral anarchy" in our social climate.

McGuire believes a future including gay marriage usurps the traditional components of a union between a husband and a wife. "Social studies confirm that children do best when you have [both] a mom and a dad," the radio host says, adding that "psychological fallout will result" when society confuses its inhabitants by changing a social order (traditional marriage) that has been the cornerstone for every major civilization since the beginning of man.

McGuire is convinced that many citizens who have recently decided to support gay marriage "have not thought things through to the logical conclusion." He sees a society "where there is no need to have any committed relationships" and where homosexual activists will "corrupt heterosexual [marriage] in an effort to make homosexual relationships legitimate."

On a recent show, McGuire alluded to an article from World magazine that chronicles 10+ years of social history in several Scandinavian countries where homosexual marriage was first introduced. With heterosexual marriage being socially de-emphasized in Scandinavia in the early 1990s, traditional marriage was gradually replaced by live-in relationships. Sociologists found that parents in those countries became less committed to their partners and to their children. If this happens in America, McGuire sees "a society where the state raises the children ... [and marriage is replaced] by a series of sexual relationships." He refers to this as "sexual anarchy."

Randy Thomasson is the executive director for Campaign for California Families, one of the few political action groups that is legally resisting gay marriage in Sacramento. If homosexual marriage is validated, Thomasson sees a future "where children as young as kindergarten are taught that two men in bed is normal."

With the Democratically controlled legislature in his state already enacting laws that actively seek to enforce hate crimes (as liberals define them), Thomasson is concerned that "churches will be forced to marry homosexual couples." Resistance from pastors could result in lawsuits, criminal charges, and hate crime prosecution. Thomasson can see a future where churches "will lose their religious freedom ... and their tax-free status" if pastors take a stand and refuse to marry homosexual couples.

Gary Cass is pastor of West Hills Christian Fellowship in El Cajon, California, and a trustee of the Grossmont School District. Cass is convinced that gay marriage will lead to "trivializing" traditional marriage and will undermine society as a result. "As we have already seen in Europe, people are now embarrassed to be called married," the pastor observes. And while there are exceptions, he notes that in Europe there is "an apostate Christian Church and a secularized immoral government." Without God, Cass says, "there is no objective moral standards that are above the feelings of law makers."

Arguments for still other types of fallout have been made if gay marriage is validated in America. Already we see polygamist groups in Utah taking legal action to validate those types of marriage. Further we have seen in England and other European states successful legal efforts to lower the age of consent. Some groups in the Netherlands have even caused rights of adults to form sexual unions in marriage to children.

Once an institution that has survived thousands of years of civilization has been broken, every type of lifestyle will seek to be confirmed no matter how bizarre its consequences. Perhaps this is why homosexual activists have now so deeply identified themselves with their support for transgender causes.

McGuire, Thomasson, and Cass -- all staunch defenders of traditional marriage -- believe it is imperative for Christians to actively defend the institution that is the backbone for civilization itself. We need to communicate our convictions to our friends, to our pastors, and to our political leaders in Washington and our state houses. If we don't, society as we know it may no longer exist. What type of legacy ... what type of future does this leave for the children we love?

[steplock]

What Would America Be Like If Gay Marriages Were Validated?

It's like asking what is the country of ROME like today?

What? There is no country called ROME? Hmmm .....

[backhoe]

-A Gay ( or not! ) Old Time- GM links--

[longtermmemmory]

Marriage would becom a "gay" thing.

Single people would want the same tax rights.

All for a sexual fetish group to impose public acceptance of their PRIVATE sex act.

[Just mythoughts]

To answer this question accurately comes down to the basics of a global struggle.

"IF" this nation is what it is because we are "BLESSED" by the CREATOR, and because of this nation's recognition from its beginning that "RIGHTS given by the CREATOR, no man/government can take" requires this nation to follow the instructions given by the CREATOR.

The instruction and consequence of perversion is clearly described. It was not man that destroyed perversion it was an act of our Heavenly Father.

No longer is the question about right and wrong, it is about WHO controls the ability to pass out "RIGHTS". We have entered what could be called the final phase of WHO is being given control of assigning "RIGHTS". The STATE or our Heavenly Father.

[randog]

"churches will be forced to marry homosexual couples." Resistance from pastors could result in lawsuits, criminal charges, and hate crime prosecution.

This is a real problem. We would in effect have a State Religion, and it's all over at that point.

[T'wit]

File this under "not even hypothetically possible," along with, "What if liberals were sane?"

[randog]

All for a sexual fetish group to impose public acceptance of their PRIVATE sex act.

You mean it really wasn't about 'what we do in private is none of your business'? I'm stunned that they lied to us.

[1stFreedom]

>>What Would America Be Like If Gay Marriages Were Validated?

Juth Thuper!

LOL

[sweetliberty]

"What Would America Be Like If Gay Marriages Were Validated?"

Sodom....just before God took it out.

[Wolfie]

The heterosexual divorce rate would soar. Oh, wait, that already happened.

[Cboldt]

... to actively defend the institution ...

... requires that the defenders also object to civil unions, at least that part whereby children can be adopted into civil unions.

I'm of the mind that protecting the label "marriage," whether by Constitutional amendment or some other means, yet permitting civil union, undermines the institution of marriage.

[Agnes Heep]

McGuire is convinced that many citizens who have recently decided to support gay marriage "have not thought things through to the logical conclusion."

Oh yes they have. The problem is that as proponents of a culture of hedonism that culminates in death, they really don't give a damn what happens to society. They're beyond the pale of society as it is; what's one more perversion?

[petercooper]

A Possible Scene at City Hall in San Francisco (Could it happen?)
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Next." Good morning. We want to apply for a marriage license."

"Names?"

Tim and Jim Jones."

"Jones? Are you related? I see a resemblance."

"Yes, we're brothers."

"Brothers? You can't get married."

"Why not? Aren't you giving marriage licenses to same gender couples?"

"Yes, thousands. But we haven't had any siblings. That's incest!"

"Incest?" No, we are not gay."

"Not gay? Then why do you want to get married?"

"For the financial benefits, of course. And we do love each other. Besides, we don't have any other prospects."

"But we're issuing marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples who've been denied equal protection under the law. If you are not gay, you can get married to a woman."

"Wait a minute. A gay man has the same right to marry a woman as I have.

But just because I'm straight doesn't mean I want to marry a woman. I want to marry Jim."

"And I want to marry Tim, Are you going to discriminate against us just because we are not gay?"

"All right, all right. I'll give you your license. Next."

---

"Hi. We are here to get married."

"Names?"

"John Smith, Jane James, Robert Green, and June Johnson."

"Who wants to marry whom?"

"We all want to marry each other."

"But there are four of you!"

"That's right. You see, we're all bisexual. I love Jane and Robert, Jane loves me and June, June loves Robert and Jane, and Robert loves June and me. All of us getting married together is the only way that we can express our sexual preferences in a marital relationship."

"But we've only been granting licenses to gay and lesbian couples."

"So you're discriminating against bisexuals!"

"No, it's just that, well, the traditional idea of marriage is that it's just for couples."

"Since when are you standing on tradition?"

"Well, I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere."

"Who says? There's no logical reason to limit marriage to couples. The more the better. Besides, we demand our rights! The mayor says the constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. Give us a marriage license!"

"All right, all right. Next."

---

"Hello, I'd like a marriage license."

"In what names?"

"David Deets."

"And the other man?"

"That's all. I want to marry myself."

"Marry yourself? What do you mean?"

"Well, my psychiatrist says I have a dual personality, so I want to marry the two together. Maybe I can file a joint income-tax return."

"That does it! I quit!! You people are making a mockery of marriage!!"

---

Bill just came up with the idea of marrying his grandmother. His argument fits well into the same argument that gays have for wanting to get married.. If all of us were to marry our parents, or grandparents, it would allow us to get their life savings upon their death (GOD, forbid. But, we are all going to die) without paying the government 50% in inheritance tax.

[11th_VA]

Imagine what the familt life curriculum would be like in the schools - as if it wasn't bad enough ...

[harbinger of doom]

I had to say twice before I got it. Than I laughed heartily. Thank you!

[VOA]

What Would America Be Like If Gay Marriages Were Validated?

Within a few years of the institution of gay marriage, this will probably happen:
1. Gays will be shouting bloody-hell about the polygamists, the incestuous,
and purveyors of bestiality demaning their "rights" to "marriage" based on
"equal treatment"...in just about any combination of numbers and life-forms.
It will be a schadenfreude (sp?) moment when gays are screaming at these
"extremists" for "devaluing" their own sacred gay marriage vows.

2. It will be interesting to hear a lot of the borderline folks join the
traditional marriage crowd in blasting the gay-marriage crowd for having made the mess.

[EdReform]

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