The Paleoconservative Age: They hate W. – from the right. (A paleocon bestiary)

The New Haven Advocate ^ | July 3, 2003 | Joe Miksch

[quidnunc]

At first blush, the phrase "anti-establishment conservative" doesn't make sense. Aren't the conservatives, especially considering the United States' current political climate, the establishment?

Well, yes. But there are conservatives who consider what passes for a conservative today — George W. Bush, for example — equivalent to the Red under one's bed in the 1950s. These folks are called paleoconservatives and, according to guys such as Jim Libinskas, hold a world-view that champions "an isolationist, 'America First' foreign policy, regional culture and politics versus big government and pop culture, protection for American workers (economic nationalism), a stoppage or large curtailment of immigration and a defense of America's European and Christian identity."

The paleoconservative heyday occurred in the early and mid-1990s with anti-immigration, isolationist, anti-free trade, ultranationalist Pat Buchanan making more than a marginal impact in his runs for the Republican presidential nomination. After fighting a losing ideological battle against neoconservatives — well-connected, well-funded, well-organized leftists in the paleoconservative's eyes — the paleos, to a large degree, went the way of the dinosaur.

Yet they persist. Though few in number, their Web sites are many. At the vanguard in the beginning and toeing the line in the present is Chronicles magazine and its web presence www.chroniclesmagazine.org. Long considered the movement's bible, the mag has dipped in circulation from 20,000 at its peak to less than 5,000.

-snip-

[junta]

I have nothing against fun. I'll even join in with "fun." The new conservatives from what I gather are as Coulter describes them, "girly men."

[jpsb]

	paleocon	neocon	liberal
stop illegal immigration	yes	no	no
America First foreign policy	yes	no	no
regional politics	yes	no	no
against big government	yes	no	no
defense America's European, Christian identity	yes	no	no
fair trade	yes	no	yes
support Israel	yes	yes	no
Protect American Jobs	yes	no	yes
Conservative	yes	no	no
Liberal	no	yes	yes

[WRhine]

To Buchanan and a lot of us, Protectionism = Fair Trade...He and we have established that a long time ago...

Lying and intentional misrepresentations are all the Neo-Cons have left to support their failing ideology of Open Borders, One-Way Industry/Job Destroying 3rd World Trade Deals and Global Welfare.

Now that their Rats Nest of conflicting policy goals is collapsing, as the U.S. Budget and Trade Deficits are hemorrhaging record Red Ink, the Cons are in a panic. Their day of reckoning is quickly approaching.

[Arkinsaw]

You should keep going with those until you are the only conservative.

[MissouriForBush]

Do you think lifelong Republicans who are against pandering to illegal aliens and who support cutting out-of-control federal spending are part of the "fringe element?"

[SJackson]

Now that their Rats Nest of conflicting policy goals is collapsing, as the U.S. Budget and Trade Deficits are hemorrhaging record Red Ink, the Cons are in a panic. Their day of reckoning is quickly approaching.

Yup, GWB is in a panic, the day of reckoning is on it's way.

Ring up another vote for Kerry.

[jpsb]

I don't know why I brother with you people.

[SJackson]

exactly right !!!! ive heard this gang mutter that the holcaust never happened..they are beneath contempt! i could go on and on about these loons but we have more important battles

This gang mutters and that's about it.

[GhostofWCooper]

Don't stay home, vote CONSTITUTION PARTY.
Let the chips fall where they may.
Look how the neocons and moderates talk about you. Remember this come election eve, when they're whining for support...

[Age of Reason]

neoconservatives = Money First

[AmishDude]

	paleocon	neocon	liberal
support Israel	yes	yes	no

LOL!

[SJackson]

I'm sure that's an innocent keyboard mistake.

[Age of Reason]

Why should we support Israel?

[SJackson]

Don't stay home, vote CONSTITUTION PARTY.

Vice President Joseph Sobran. Awesome idea.

Vote Constitution Party, stay home, who cares.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

but the fact that Bush I only served one term (and the fact that Bush II is only going to serve one term) proves that the Buchanan brigades are still a force.

And you're proud of that? (Since when is a "fact" something that hasn't occurred?)

[AmishDude]

I also remember the NEOcons supporting McVain--so this "Bush hater" invective is supect.

It seems that the term neocon violates the law of conservation of mass, in that it manages to cover huge swaths of people and tiny enclaves of intellectuals at the same time.

[GhostofWCooper]

That's correct.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Why should we support Israel?

You're missing his point.

[AmishDude]

Why should we support Israel?

And thank you very much for making my point.

[Age of Reason]

I think I'm missing yours, too.

Please explain.