The Paleoconservative Age: They hate W. – from the right. (A paleocon bestiary)

The New Haven Advocate ^ | July 3, 2003 | Joe Miksch

[quidnunc]

At first blush, the phrase "anti-establishment conservative" doesn't make sense. Aren't the conservatives, especially considering the United States' current political climate, the establishment?

Well, yes. But there are conservatives who consider what passes for a conservative today — George W. Bush, for example — equivalent to the Red under one's bed in the 1950s. These folks are called paleoconservatives and, according to guys such as Jim Libinskas, hold a world-view that champions "an isolationist, 'America First' foreign policy, regional culture and politics versus big government and pop culture, protection for American workers (economic nationalism), a stoppage or large curtailment of immigration and a defense of America's European and Christian identity."

The paleoconservative heyday occurred in the early and mid-1990s with anti-immigration, isolationist, anti-free trade, ultranationalist Pat Buchanan making more than a marginal impact in his runs for the Republican presidential nomination. After fighting a losing ideological battle against neoconservatives — well-connected, well-funded, well-organized leftists in the paleoconservative's eyes — the paleos, to a large degree, went the way of the dinosaur.

Yet they persist. Though few in number, their Web sites are many. At the vanguard in the beginning and toeing the line in the present is Chronicles magazine and its web presence www.chroniclesmagazine.org. Long considered the movement's bible, the mag has dipped in circulation from 20,000 at its peak to less than 5,000.

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[Age of Reason]

I am not interested in your point.

I would like to know why we should support Israel.

[AmishDude]

You're missing his point.

That's been happening a lot to me lately. Check all the way down the thread, especially starting here.

[jpsb]

The best friend Israel has in this world is Christain America, I don't know where this idea that paleocons do not support Israel came from but it is not correct. Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!

[rdb3]

I would like to know why we should support Israel.

This has been debated ad nauseum.

Show 'em my motto!

[Arkinsaw]

I don't know why I brother with you people.

Don't try on my account.

[AmishDude]

Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!

Wow! They could hold their conventions in a phone booth then.

[veronica]

You find the best stuff quid...:)

[AmishDude]

You find the best stuff quid...:)

Well, half of it, anyway.

[SJackson]

Why should we support Israel?...You're missing his point.

More likely he's making one.

We have a strong ally in the region Egypt to whom we supply several billion a year in military aid, to attack the unnamed little country to their NorthEast. That's from their training manuals.

And we have our dear friends, the Saudis.

BTW, both nations produce excellent pilots, they can his a skyscraper with their eyes closes.

Then we go and provide aid to a little country to Egypt's northeast, undoing the fine thing we're doing for Egypt, the Saudis, et al, our pals.

At least I think that's the point that's being made.

Soon to arrive, the post that says I didn't mean it, I don't just oppose aid to Israel, I oppose all foreign aid, I just forgot to say it.

[jpsb]

Yup yall big government socailists seem to have won the hearts and minds of the people, congrads.

[SJackson]

[AmishDude]

• neoconservatives = Money First
• Why should we support Israel?

Why, indeed.

[AmishDude]

Yup yall big government socailists seem to have won the hearts and minds of the people, congrads.

Wow. Namecalling so quickly. I'm impressed.

[international american]

I would love to see anyone impeach what you have posted here!!

[Sam's Army]

Because it angers the Left

[quidnunc]

jpsb wrote: The best friend Israel has in this world is Christain America, I don't know where this idea that paleocons do not support Israel came from but it is not correct. Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!

Pat Buchanan isn't a paleocon… riiighttt.

And the pope prays to Gaia and Dolly Parton's hairdo and curves are completely natural.

[international american]

Correct Pat is anti Israel, and I am not!! And I still agree with your post#22!!

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

He was responding to a paleocon who made the claim that paleocons support Israel. He thought that was funny.

It seems, given your apparent position, that you would find that humorous as well.

I hope that helps. (I suppose I could be wrong, but that was my take on the exchange.)

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Pat B IS NOT A Paleocon!

Then what is he?

[jpsb]

I'm not, as far as I can tell so far, your posts are just a waste band width.