Brinkley: Kerry Faces Questions about Senate Hit Plot

Newsmax ^ | 3/14/04 | Limbacher

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

What did Sen. John Kerry know and when did he know it about a plot to assassinate pro-Vietnam war U.S. Senators hatched at a November 1971 Kansas City meeting of the group Vietnam Veterans Against America?

According to presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley, that's the question Sen. Kerry needs to answer. If it turns out that the likely Democratic presidential nominee knew of the treasonous plan, Brinkley says he had an obligation to go to the authorities.

"The question is: did Kerry quit [VVAW] before Kansas City or did he quit after Kansas City," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg. "If he quit after Kansas City, that means he clearly knew about this assassination plot against the Senators and never went to the authorities."

Kerry says he submitted his official letter of resignation to the VVAW just days before the critical Kansas City confab. But two Vietnam veterans who attended the session told the New York Sun on Friday that they remember Kerry was there.

Meanwhile copies of Kerry's resignation letter are nowhere to be found.

Brinkley, whose book "Tour of Duty" chronicles Kerry's Vietnam war exploits, said that the former Navy Lieutenant had an obligation to warn authorities about the frightening plan, telling Malzberg, "Clearly his critics would say, if he had known about it why didn't he report it."

Once put to a vote, the death plot went down to defeat, with Kerry voting in the majority, according to the two witnesses who say he was there.

However, Kerry officials in Florida have recently invited the assassination plan's author, Scott Camil, to join the Senator's campaign, the Sun report claimed.

Brinkley described Camil as "a hothead Vietnam vet who wanted to bring down the U.S. government."

"I'm a little shocked that the Kerry campaign would want him actively working with them in Florida," he told Malzberg.

[Hon]

"Vietnam Veterans Against America"

Freudian slip, I guess.

[dc-zoo]

I'm more than a little shocked. There should be another report from Lipscomb in the New York Sun monday.

[Hon]

Kerry Lied In Press Conference Where He Refused To Apologize For Calling Republicans Liars
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096436/posts

[cyncooper]

But two Vietnam veterans who attended the session told the New York Sun on Friday that they remember Kerry was there.

Those two are named Barnes and DuBose.

A third man named Musgrave was contacted by a reporter from the Kansas City Star the day the Sun report came out.

By the time the KC reporter was doing his follow-up to the Sun report, Barnes had developed a more hazy memory, though he did not totally reverse and say Kerry did not attend, he just couldn't be as positive as he had been the day before when speaking to the Sun.

The Sun reporter was on Fox today and has a new story coming out tomorrow he said. He also said he felt journalists should be looking into this.

[cyncooper]

Ping

Brinkley has weighed in.

[Intolerant in NJ]

According to presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley, that's the question Sen. Kerry needs to answer. If it turns out that the likely Democratic presidential nominee knew of the treasonous plan, Brinkley says he had an obligation to go to the authorities...watch it, Brinkley - this sort of thing could lose you the position of official presidential biographer, for which you've been shilling so hard, should Kerry win in November.......

[eeman]

Maybe Brinkely is mole put in their by the Clintons???????

My God, I've gone over to the tinfoil-hat side. :(

[Travis McGee]

bttt

[dc-zoo]

Doug's internet connection was down this evening. I hope he gets it back soon.

[weegee]

BUMP

[tutstar]

bttt

[Wild Irish Rogue]

The VVAW was not a fraternal, American Legion kind of organization by any means. ANSWER and MOVEON.ORG are Girl Scouts, compared to the VVAW. The were militant and they were violent.

This is just a smidgen of what must be out there under FOIA and declassified FBI reports. Gary Aldrich has encouraged Kerry to come clean-the voters will have to wait until it's 32 degrees in Hell for that to happen.

"Final Report of the Select Committee to Study government Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities, " US Senate, April 23, 1976

"During the Vietnam War, investigations of individuals labeled "Key Activists" were conducted under Section 87, in which informant coverage was stressed."
" For example, in January 1968, instructions went out to ten major field offices to designate certain persons as "Key Activists."
" They were defined as "individuals in the Students for a Democratic Society and the anti-Vietnam war groups [who] are extremely active and most vocal in their statements denouncing the United States and calling for civil disobedience and other forms of unlawful and disruptive acts."

"Because of their leadership and prominence in the "new left" movement, as well as the GROWING MILITANCY of this movement, each office must maintain high-level informant coverage on these individuals so that the Bureau is kept abreast of their day-to-day activities as well as the organizations they are affiliated with, to develop information r egarding their sources of funds, foreign contacts, and future plans."

"In August 1971, a full investigation of the VVAW was opened on the basis of reports that Communist youth groups were infiltrating the VVAW and the alleged involvement of some VVAW members in illegal demonstrations;"
"militant antiwar activity by the VVAW, including reported links with foreign elements, was also a basis for the full investigation."
"33 FBI concern centered on the national office of the VVAW, which the FBI saw as adopting Marxist-Leninist doctrine and anti-imperialist positions."

[Dialup Llama]

Bush found timesheets from 30 years ago. Where is Kerry's resignation letter? Maybe he never resigned.

[Dialup Llama]

So 'basically' Kerry was a member of a militant, terrorist organization?

[onyx]

BTTT

[doug from upland]

Good for Malzberg having him on. This may develop legs.

[ASA Vet]

No need for the foil.

You're seeing the beginning stage of Comrade Hillary's plan to "save the party."

[dc-zoo]

Glad to see you're back online.

[doug from upland]

It was down here for about 6 hours.

[SunkenCiv]

Wow.

[Hon]

"The VVAW was not a fraternal, American Legion kind of organization by any means. ANSWER and MOVEON.ORG are Girl Scouts, compared to the VVAW. The were militant and they were violent."

Right you are. Bear in mind that during the last four months of 1971 alone, 500 VVAW members were arrested.

To give you some idea of how far left they were, not only had the VVAW sent several delegations to Paris in 1971 to "negotiate" with the Vietcong and NVM representatives, but Al Hubbard even went to Hanoi--before Jane Fonda did.

Hubbard was also awarded a prize from the USSR, which he accepted. (The name escapes me for the moment.)

[GulliverSwift]

The conservative media and the Bush campaign had better start talking about this. The liberal "mainstream" media will be exposed as utterly hypocritical since they National Guard non-scandal if they don't talk about Kerry's involvement in a communist group.

[dc-zoo]

How did the ftp file work out?

[DannyTN]

And if he was there, did he quit because they voted on the death plan, or because the vote failed?

[lainde]

The thing I'd like to see stressed in these stories is: What did Kerry DO about it? During his Senate testimony the glaring question was "Did you report these atrocities to your superiors? With this story, it's the same issue of ethics and responsible behavior: "A possible assasination plot against United States senators? Who did you inform?"

[devolve]

My cousin in New York emailed me about this early Sunday morning.

At first I thought it was about a tv movie last weekend.

It appears that one of the principals behind the 1971 Vietnam Veterans Against the War assassination plot to kill six southern US Senators is now living up in Gainesville.

ABC's political expert Cokie Roberts father Senator Hale Boggs was on the final six kill list of Scott Camill and his terrorist gang.

No resignation letter from John Kerry to the VVAW has ever been found in Colorado.

The November 10, 1971 date of the alleged letter was just two days before the meeting in Kansas City from the 12-15, 1971 that over three veterans swear John Kerry attended and voted at.

Kerry had to have full awareness of complete details of the plot.

4 days in November.

It sounds like a book title or a movie.

Tom Clancy are you listening?

I love a good novel.

[Travis McGee]

I think a couple of good private detectives should be able to nail it down.

[Hon]

"It appears that one of the principals behind the 1971 Vietnam Veterans Against the War assassination plot to kill six southern US Senators is now living up in Gainesville."

Scott Camil has lived in Gainesville for at least thirty years.

"ABC's political expert Cokie Roberts father Senator Hale Boggs was on the final six kill list of Scott Camill and his terrorist gang."

I've never heard this. The list is described in "Winter Soldiers" as being SEVEN pro-war southern Senators. Of course Boggs was a Representative.

"No resignation letter from John Kerry to the VVAW has ever been found in Colorado."

They looked for it in Madison, WI, where some of the VVAW archives are.

"The November 10, 1971 date of the alleged letter was just two days before the meeting in Kansas City from the 12-15, 1971 that over three veterans swear John Kerry attended and voted at."

Barnes is now a little shaky. But there are two who say they think he was at the meeting.

"Kerry had to have full awareness of complete details of the plot."

Very possibly. But don't get too carried away. There could still be an innocent explanation.

[Happy2BMe]

J-FK scandal to murder six U.S. Senators in '71 developing - ping.

Will this little bug grow feet?

[White Eagle]

Maybe he resigned and forgot to read the resignation letter. In which case he did not tell himself that he was no longer a member, so it was okay to go to the meeting as long as he didn't belong there.

It's fun thinking like John Kerry. Reminds me of the 60's.

[Happy2BMe]

"You're seeing the beginning stage of Comrade Hillary's plan to "save the party."

Ya think? I dunno - IF an assassination plot to kill six U.S. senators were left hanging over J-FK, even Hiterly wouldn't have the lying power to remove it.

[Samwise]

FOX had a clip this morning in which a heckler asked Kerry to name the world leaders who endorsed him.

Kerry refused to answer the question, demanding to know if the heckler was a Republican and if he had voted for Bush. After the man finally said he did, Kerry just smirked with contempt and walked away. The crowd was giddy with disdain for Republicans.

Yes, folks, Kerry was calling all Republicans crooks and liars. His disdain for us is so great that he refused to answer our questions. He doesn't even want out votes.

Oh yes, he will make a great President for all of the people--not.

[Happy2BMe]

"The list is described at Winter Soldiers . ."

WINTER SOLDIER.COM

[petitfour]

Yep. Hale Boggs was a Congressman, and he died in a plane crash. In 1972. In Alaska. No bodies ever found.

[ASA Vet]

even Hiterly wouldn't have the lying power to remove it

The commiecRATs knew Kerry had this baggage, and that it would be exposed.
He was their throwaway.
I only question the timing. It's a little to early for Hillary to take over.

[Hon]

"The list is described at Winter Soldiers . ."

Where exactly?

[SpinyNorman]

Kerry refused to answer the question, demanding to know if the heckler was a Republican and if he had voted for Bush. After the man finally said he did, Kerry just smirked with contempt and walked away. The crowd was giddy with disdain for Republicans.

That's the key: he smirks and walks away, but NEVER really answers a direct question. Even his so called "DBunker" on his website has cagey misdirecting answers to allegations and criticisms that really only feed the believers, and make the rest of us more suspicious.

[Interesting Times]

I think Hon was referring to the book "Winter Soldiers."

[kabar]

The VVAW was not a fraternal, American Legion kind of organization by any means. ANSWER and MOVEON.ORG are Girl Scouts, compared to the VVAW. The were militant and they were violent.

The VVAW still is militant and violent. Check out their website: http://www.vvaw.org/

[Just mythoughts]

"Kerry Lied In Press Conference Where He Refused To Apologize For Calling Republicans Liars"


I think JFKerry knew this article was in the works when he uttered those words. I also believe that he wanted those words heard, because he has been claiming for months about how Republican i.e. the "intern" story were lies and attacks.

I also believe because of what some of his "staffers" have said that they are monitoring this site as well as others and by complaining about Internet and Republicans "generically" he does not give publicity to where the so called "lies" come from.

[Happy2BMe]

"I think Hon was referring to the book "Winter Soldiers."

Woops! My bad. Sorry.

Wintersoldiers.com may eventually have it posted though.

Tnx for the info!

[MeekOneGOP]

Will this little bug grow feet?

I hope so. But he's a DemocRAT, so I doubt.
G-r-r-r-r-r !!

[Donaeus]

BTTT

[lonevoice]

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[lonevoice]

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[Ann Archy]

Scott Camil, the assassin wanna-be is a PERFECT Democrat and a PERFECT fit for the Kerry campaign. Kerry is a meaner mother than Bill Clinton....and just as mean as Hillary!

[Ann Archy]

Hale Boggs died in a plane crash I believe. MAYBE Arkancide was alive and well BEFORE the Clintons came on board.

[JohnnyP]

Doug:

Did you call in to Laura Ingraham this morning? I caught just the last part of the conversation about the assasination plot. From the little bit I heard, it didn't sound like she thought you were wacked out.

[doug from upland]

Yes, I called her this morning. I hope she doesn't think I was whacked out. I've called her before.