Poll: Few Favor Same-Sex Marriage (new spin,trying to say should not be part of election)

CBS POLLS ^ | 3/16/2004 | CBS

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REASON MOST PEOPLE WHO FAVOR SAME-SEX MARRIAGE DO SO? To obtain legal rights for gays 37% To get society to approve of gays 482%

That polling for you.

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Did they actually mean 48.2%?

If so it is the only stat thats not a whole number - doesn't make sense.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Americans did not widely support abolition either. The cultural tide cannot be turned. We are witnessing an evolution of our constitution, and no amount of blustery pontificating can make black white.

(snicker)

Yeah...hopefully I'll see you at the bottom of that slippery slope; if the country survives.

Thats got to be the thing I hate most about liberalism...its constantly degrades and destroys everything in its path...like a cancer; and quite honestly, theres not a damn thing we can do about it, (barring the notion that JimRob recruits about 4-5 million more true blue Freepers) there is simply not enough people who give a damn to make a difference.

[Trillian]

They're polling mostly liberals of course.

[ex 98C MI Dude]

The Bible takes a clear stand against murder, too. Does that mean any law against murder is prohibited by the 1st Amendment?

By the by, the 1st Amendment states, in part, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

AN establishment, not the establishment. AN is singular, while THE is all encompassing. Therefore, if a law respects ALL major (ie, non-crackpot 'worship dog doo' religions) religion, then it can be construed as Constitutional.

See, I can parse words too!

[longtermmemmory]

actually CBS claims they are randomly selecting numbers. According to their own site they randomly select the phone exchange and then random dial the last four numbers. Of course this does not say they don't predominantly call gorezone exchanges.

They "say" its all random and does not rely on a list.

[longtermmemmory]

simple example: your 1st amendment right does not protect your right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. An absolutist would say it does.

The left is using the letter of the law to violate the spirit of the law. (seperation FROM chruch and state comes to mind too.)

Society has a vested interest in encouraging the model which perpetuates society most. Homosexuals are free to have whatever sex partners, cohabitation contracts, palimony agreemnts, they desire in private. In the PUBLIC arena of marraige, their PRIVATE sex acts do not have standing.

If anything this poll show the shift in homosexual tactics. First it was just loooooove and feeeelings. Then is was just religous hatred. Now its, voters don't reeeeeealy feeeeeeel it matters.

The fact that its now 59% accordig to CBS suggests that the homosexual media useful idiots are not succeeding in their propaganda.

[talleyman]

Veerrrry in-te-res-ting!

[longtermmemmory]

or they forgot to drop the .2% or its actually 4.82%

I suspect its the 48% who support homsexual marriage want to make homosexuality normal.

(bet that will thrill all the single feminist mothers. It will make their destruction of sons complete.)

[ChevyZ28]

I agree. Not all speech is protected. Though, there are those who think so.

[longtermmemmory]

it boils down to time place and manner.

Homoesuxality is equally limited as it is a private act.

There has never been a sex act test for marriage.

[ChevyZ28]

My question regarding the 482% was more than anything a rhetorical one. My whole post was intended to be sarcastic, I just forgot the tag. However, you are right, the 48.2% number is not one than makes sense, given the whole article stayed with whole numbers.

[ChevyZ28]

I think we can safely say the economy is not going to tank. The economy is in fact growing now.

[ChevyZ28]

Personally, I am sickened by the fact our society has degenerated to the point we are even having to discuss whether or not same genders should be allowed to marry. This is a very sad testament to our society.

[RockandRollResurrection]

The tyranny of the majority is NEVER a basis for law, and should be guarded against. Thomas Jefferson said so, and I'll take his word over... well... the current leadership, if you will. Nor is the tyranny of the majority a basis for mutilating our precious Constitution. That's where the "7/10 oppose it" argument falls down.

So does the "it's an ancient institution" argument. Guess what? So was slavery. So is murder and torture. Next argument? Oh, you don't have anymore?

Basically, all that's left is that heterosexuals won't feel as "Special" ad they did before. Guess what? Feeeeeeeeelings don't dictate public policy, nor should they. If you want special rights, move to a commie country and make friends with the "Generalissimo". I'm sure you'd like it better there.

[RockandRollResurrection]

Homosexuals are free to have whatever sex partners

Thanks to our wonderful supreme court. Thank you, Justice O'Connor! God bless America!

[bray]

When is PravdABDNC going to tell the truth about the health risks of homosexuality. Homo men have a 1 in 4 chance of getting AIDS while hetro married men and women is under 1 in a million. Homo men live 25 years less than hetro with far less health. If this was tobacco it would be outlawed.

Pray for W and The Truth

[WhiteyAppleseed]

Therefore, if a law respects ALL major (ie, non-crackpot 'worship dog doo' religions) religion, then it can be construed as Constitutional.

(This is probably your strongest argument.) This country was settled by people looking to exercise freely the religion of their choice. The First mandates government neutrality between religion and religion and religion and non-religion. The commandments tell us we are not to covet our neighbor's manservant or maidservant. The commandments remind us that they are from the Lord, our God, who brought the people ouf of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

Why then, do people insist on government taking a hand in every grievance they have with their neighbor? And why do people insist that government address things better left alone? Why, in short, are people willing to allow government more control?

Congress shall make no law...prohibiting the free exercise thereof. You could perhaps argue that by banning homosexual marriage, the government is not interferring with the exercise of anyone's religion. You could not argue that an elected official could perform same-sex marriages under the canopy where commandments have been removed.

I'm not yet convinced that either a ban, or legalizing it, would be consistent with the 1st. The issue cannot be divorced from the issue of free exercise of religion.

[Lorianne]

Overall, 56% think defining marriage as only between a man and a woman is not an important enough issue to warrant changing the Constitution. Yet most - 57% - who support the amendment think the issue merits a change to the Constitution.

Huh? Anyone have a clue what this means?

[MEGoody]

"The cultural tide cannot be turned."

Sure it can. When the tide is going in a direction that the majority of Americans feel strongly against.