BBC Report: Noah's Ark "...more credible version based on Babylonian sources."

BBC On Line ^ | Friday, 19 March, 2004 | Jeremy Bowen

[VaBthang4]

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/index.htm

[aShepard]

Genesis 7:

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. 18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

So there were some kind of high hills before the flood, and a distinction was made between hills in 7-19 and mountains in 7-20.

[justshutupandtakeit]

The Babylonian story PREDATES Genesis and the Hebrews. Abram came from that culture. This in no way diminishes the glory of God.

[LiteKeeper]

I beg to differ. The most recent, conservative scholarship shows that there is extremely strong evidence that Moses edited the clay tablets created by "eye-witness" authors. This is NOT JEPD...this is partially based on the scholarship of P.J. Wiseman. And this in no way impinges on the plenary inspiration of the Scriptures. I would be happy to point you to the research, but right now I am at the office and I don't have the information in front of me.

By the way, this is the part of the doctoral dissertation on Genesis that I am currently working on. It is, admittedly, not a widely held position, but the evidence is very strong, and very exciting. It shifts the authenticity question to much earlier to the actual events recorded in it.

[LiteKeeper]

Just ran into one of my sources

THE FIRST BOOK OF MOSES AND THE 'TOLEDOTH' OF GENESIS

[Chewbacca]

Considering that many of the HIGH mountains of today have evidence of sea life at their tops, I suspect the mountains before that time were rather low.

I believe that most of the HIGH mountains were created during the days the ark was floating around in the water. Earthquakes and large crustal movements wouldn't have impacted the ark as much as if it had come to rest and was being shaken while on dry land.

[dartuser]

Perhaps we are in a linguistic impasse ... You seemed to assert that Genesis was written by an eyewitness, one of Noahs sons. And I am saying that is impossible ...

My assertions are as follows:

1. Moses wrote Genesis (well documented fact).
2. The events in Genesis predate Moses by ... well, a long time.
3. Therefore, Genesis was not written by eyewitnesses.

Now, if you are saying Moses may have used written sources that were actual eyewitness accounts ...

That I would agree with ... its possible ...

[gunnedah]

Most of these type people do not realize the real God and what he can do.
If he can part the sea he can certainly build an ARK that will withstand anything.
My God cannot and will not fail. He will not let you down like man and all his theories.

[aShepard]

..."I suspect the mountains before that time were rather low.".........


Ok, Maybe.

Or maybe the chisel slipped on the tablets and only recorded 23 feet of water. That's about 7 inches of rainfall per day, and surely God could unleash more than that.

[farmfriend]

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[dartuser]

Can you tell us what verse you read the total level of water was 23 feet ?

[#3Fan]

I like the story of the flood being when the Black Sea was formed.

So God made Noah spend 120 years building an ark when Noah could've just picked up and walked a couple days to high ground away from the Black sea? lol

[Dog Gone]

No, but what he did take on the ark were infant animals, which included dinosaurs.

Wow, that's the first time I've heard anyone declare something like that.

[dartuser]

lol ... and liberals say we shut off our brains when we believe the inspiration of the bible ...

[Junior]

A "testing the waters" ping.

[dartuser]

Which part?

The infant animals ... or the dinosaurs ????

[Junior]

there are LOTS of stories in LOTS of cultures about a great flood. they only serve to affirm the biblical account.

They only serve to affirm that floods have happened all over the world at various times.

[Dog Gone]

Both, but the dinosaur part is the more stunning assertion.

[#3Fan]

True. They're the simple-minded ones. Those who believe must connect what was with what is and imagine the transitions. Those who don't believe simply observe what is and assume it was that way always, which is much simpler, but not the whole truth.

[aShepard]

See my post 42. Genesis 7:20.

With a cubit the length of a forearm and hand (Ezekiel 43:13), or an average of about 18 inches.